| The Boats keep coming 20:35 - Aug 13 with 3409 views | onceablue |
Regardless of the 1 in 1 out Labour policy Gimmick that has absolutely no chance of working
1600 people have arrived in 4 days in 26 boats
If the sea remains calm this will be the norm certainly for August/september
Macron has completely mugged Starmer off. No wonder he was kissing and hugging Kier
The French want rid of the Migrant camps and won’t be happy until they are all gone.
The only thing that will stop the boats is the Weather.
The current Government or who ever is in charge needs to come clean and admit there is no answer
It won’t be long until we see 100,000 a year arriving by this method
I totally get it that everyone wants to live in a perceived Civilised society but how the hell do we pay for it
The Tories created a 22 billion black hole over 14 years the Labour Party have created a 50 billion black hole in 12 months!!!!!!
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| The Boats keep coming on 22:25 - Aug 13 with 628 views | Mullet |
| The Boats keep coming on 22:22 - Aug 13 by Illinoisblue |
Do these “free phones” actually exist? |
There were some given out during Covid because people were literally restricted like the rest of us. But now fake “ex employee” videos pop up every so often saying things like they can all choose Samsung or iPhone and get a wad of cash each week.
As you can imagine you’d have to be a dim bulb not to see that for what it is. |  |
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| The Boats keep coming on 22:32 - Aug 13 with 583 views | redrickstuhaart |
| The Boats keep coming on 22:20 - Aug 13 by onceablue |
So let me get this right, you do not consider staying in a 4/5 star hotel and receiving 3 meals a day, free access to Doctors and dentists free phones a benefit.
If it isn’t a benefit who the hell is paying for it.
The existing population who receive benefits then have to use this money to pay for everything they need.
The money you quote that is given to the existing population compared to the migrants is crazy, as you have not included any of the hotel costs, food, dentist, phone costs that are spent on migrants
You not really comparing apples with apples are you now? |
When you say 4/5 star hotels, you know they are not living in 4/5 star hotel conditions dont you?
Have you some examples of actual cushy conditions? Or just getting this from some facebook bubble? | | | |
| The Boats keep coming on 22:33 - Aug 13 with 587 views | itfc_statman |
Anyone who's bothered to educate themselves and actually go down and see this in person will tell you it's an unusual sight - so many young males only travelling over here, taking the risk.
The brief study's undertaken by a group at the UEA, not sure if will be published, but yeah the free phone stuff is true. It's also weird, you'd think the government would choose refurb cheaper devices etc but no.
It's a weird world currently and it's certainly not all Kier's fault as some seem to make out, but it is a serious problem and some of the criminality that's happened according to some of Norfolk Police is massively concerning | | | |
| The Boats keep coming on 22:34 - Aug 13 with 576 views | onceablue |
| The Boats keep coming on 22:25 - Aug 13 by Mullet |
There were some given out during Covid because people were literally restricted like the rest of us. But now fake “ex employee” videos pop up every so often saying things like they can all choose Samsung or iPhone and get a wad of cash each week.
As you can imagine you’d have to be a dim bulb not to see that for what it is. |
So they bring phones with them then.
Are they still on their own county’s tariff or have they got free roaming? 😂
If they are only getting £9.95 a week how the hell are they paying for their phones. I have a rubbish phone and it costs me £40 a month. | | | |
| The Boats keep coming on 22:36 - Aug 13 with 567 views | davblue |
| The Boats keep coming on 20:48 - Aug 13 by Pendejo |
That black hole of £50bn is that on top of the £22bn or inclusive?
I mean £28bn in a year is still pretty impressive but then it costs money to fix things and service debt.
Especially when the utilities are foreign owned and the profits flow out of the country rather than reinvested within.
As for the boats; it's Johnson, Farage and the Brexiteers that are to blame. As part of the EU we could send them all back... That's why there's not much appetite to stop them in France, we're not part of Europe so not their problem.
We had more control of our borders as part of EU than we do now. |
We should just tariff everything. After all it’s making the US loads of money and big tax breaks are going to go to the very day man and woman.
MEGA Make England Great Again. If only Trump could take over England as I’ve seen suggested my britis( people recently. |  | | |
| The Boats keep coming on 22:40 - Aug 13 with 560 views | bsw72 |
| The Boats keep coming on 22:20 - Aug 13 by onceablue |
So let me get this right, you do not consider staying in a 4/5 star hotel and receiving 3 meals a day, free access to Doctors and dentists free phones a benefit.
If it isn’t a benefit who the hell is paying for it.
The existing population who receive benefits then have to use this money to pay for everything they need.
The money you quote that is given to the existing population compared to the migrants is crazy, as you have not included any of the hotel costs, food, dentist, phone costs that are spent on migrants
You not really comparing apples with apples are you now? |
It is apples with apples as I also excluded housing benefits from the uk benefit number, likewise doctors, dentists etc, was merely comparing single base benefit allowances to make the comparison valid. The numbers of uk benefit recipients I was quoting have also never worked, but will have received up to 30 years of benefits, education, healthcare without ever contributing a penny in tax.
Oh, and if the asylum seekers are getting food with their accommodation then their allowance drops to just £10 per week, which shows you both didn’t read my post or have any understanding of the benefits you’re referring to.
Finally only 30% are currently housed in hotels, which is about 38,000 across around 220 hotels of which all but a handful are considered 3 stars or less.
But don’t let facts get in the way of your bigotry. |  | | |
| The Boats keep coming on 22:43 - Aug 13 with 549 views | onceablue |
| The Boats keep coming on 22:32 - Aug 13 by redrickstuhaart |
When you say 4/5 star hotels, you know they are not living in 4/5 star hotel conditions dont you?
Have you some examples of actual cushy conditions? Or just getting this from some facebook bubble? |
So I guess the hotels have taken out all the existing nice furniture and have replaced it with crap.
Air conditioning now switched off I guess.
Restaurant serving awful food no halal food if required.
All hotel gyms closed.
Who are you trying to kid? | | | |
| The Boats keep coming on 22:50 - Aug 13 with 516 views | Blaggers12 |
| The Boats keep coming on 21:29 - Aug 13 by WeirdFishes |
Getting very boring now. We get it, you don’t like Labour. Can’t you post your moans on a Tory forum? |
Or in a non-football forum? | | | |
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| The Boats keep coming on 22:52 - Aug 13 with 501 views | vapour_trail |
| The Boats keep coming on 22:33 - Aug 13 by itfc_statman |
Anyone who's bothered to educate themselves and actually go down and see this in person will tell you it's an unusual sight - so many young males only travelling over here, taking the risk.
The brief study's undertaken by a group at the UEA, not sure if will be published, but yeah the free phone stuff is true. It's also weird, you'd think the government would choose refurb cheaper devices etc but no.
It's a weird world currently and it's certainly not all Kier's fault as some seem to make out, but it is a serious problem and some of the criminality that's happened according to some of Norfolk Police is massively concerning |
Good point. They should probs send the children and OAPs to do a reccy first and make sure there’s potential opportunities for the family. |  |
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| The Boats keep coming on 22:56 - Aug 13 with 492 views | bsw72 |
| The Boats keep coming on 22:43 - Aug 13 by onceablue |
So I guess the hotels have taken out all the existing nice furniture and have replaced it with crap.
Air conditioning now switched off I guess.
Restaurant serving awful food no halal food if required.
All hotel gyms closed.
Who are you trying to kid? |
You don’t think that a hotel will reduce the facilities and lower the quality of service it provides when it is allocated as asylum accommodation.
Dear god, I initially used to think your posts were being deliberately antagonistic but it now turns out you’re just a gullible fool who laps up all the vitriol that the likes of the daily fail serves up, and lack the ability to think independently. [Post edited 13 Aug 22:57]
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| The Boats keep coming on 23:03 - Aug 13 with 481 views | onceablue |
| The Boats keep coming on 21:58 - Aug 13 by bsw72 |
You call out someone for being stupid and then follow on straight away talking about how those coming over in small boats get benefits.
You are actually become a rather embarrassing parody of yourself.
As for your nonsense while awaiting a decision, asylum seekers may qualify for support under Section 95 of the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999, but only if they’re destitute or at risk of becoming so. This includes basic accommodation (e.g. in a hotel, hostel, or Home Office housing) and a small weekly allowance.
Typical weekly payments:
- £49.18, if their lodging does not include meals.
- £9.95, if their accommodation does include meals.
Additional small boosts for pregnant women or mothers of very young children (e.g. +£5–£9 per week, plus a one-off £300 maternity grant).
They cannot claim Universal Credit or other mainstream state benefits while waiting.
Compare that to a 25 year old Brit who has never worked in their life in the uk so not contributed in tax in any. They get £400 per month, or about £92 per week, plus housing allowance etc
There’s an estimated 1.7m brits aged 16-30 who have never worked, so even if only 50% of those claim the minimum benefit, that’s a cost of £4bn per year vs the £260m per 100k asylum seekers.
But yes, asylum seekers on small boats are the biggest drain on uk economy. |
Your figures as usual just don’t add.
25 year old not working on benefits £400 per month £4,800 + £1000 a month housing allowance £12,000 = £16,480
25 year old in hotel average cost £80 per night including food = £29,400 + weekly allowance
Some migrants having been in Hotels for 2 years. | | | |
| The Boats keep coming on 23:06 - Aug 13 with 473 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The Boats keep coming on 22:33 - Aug 13 by itfc_statman |
Anyone who's bothered to educate themselves and actually go down and see this in person will tell you it's an unusual sight - so many young males only travelling over here, taking the risk.
The brief study's undertaken by a group at the UEA, not sure if will be published, but yeah the free phone stuff is true. It's also weird, you'd think the government would choose refurb cheaper devices etc but no.
It's a weird world currently and it's certainly not all Kier's fault as some seem to make out, but it is a serious problem and some of the criminality that's happened according to some of Norfolk Police is massively concerning |
“Asylum seekers do not receive phones as part of their standard support package from the Home Office, though a number of charities do provide donated phones to new arrivals to make it easier for them to contact solicitors and monitor the progress of their claims.”
https://fullfact.org/live/2024/jun/nigel-farage-asylum-seekers-smartphones/#:~:t
Or more official from a council:
“No, this is a myth and completely untrue. Asylum seekers only receive basic living necessities from the state.”
https://www.dudley.gov.uk/residents/register-office/asylum-seekers/#:~:text=Do%2 |  |
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| The Boats keep coming on 23:08 - Aug 13 with 465 views | reusersfreekicks |
| The Boats keep coming on 21:39 - Aug 13 by onceablue |
Don’t be so stupid
They are coming here because of the benefits they receive when they get here. |
Please outline them for us in detail.
Prob can't cause it's a myth |  | | |
| The Boats keep coming on 23:09 - Aug 13 with 465 views | BlacknGoldnBlue |
| The Boats keep coming on 23:03 - Aug 13 by onceablue |
Your figures as usual just don’t add.
25 year old not working on benefits £400 per month £4,800 + £1000 a month housing allowance £12,000 = £16,480
25 year old in hotel average cost £80 per night including food = £29,400 + weekly allowance
Some migrants having been in Hotels for 2 years. |
Most migrants are stuck in hotels because the previous government cut back in the staff processing them...so instead of a quick process of grant asylum or return to original country we've ended having to find them accommodation. |  |
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| The Boats keep coming on 23:11 - Aug 13 with 454 views | mellowblue |
| The Boats keep coming on 21:29 - Aug 13 by WeirdFishes |
Getting very boring now. We get it, you don’t like Labour. Can’t you post your moans on a Tory forum? |
so it was okay to constantly (and rightly) slag off the Tories when they were in charge. Now the boot is on the other foot suddenly we musn't criticise the Labour Government ? Very Democratic. | | | |
| The Boats keep coming on 23:14 - Aug 13 with 447 views | reusersfreekicks |
| The Boats keep coming on 22:43 - Aug 13 by onceablue |
So I guess the hotels have taken out all the existing nice furniture and have replaced it with crap.
Air conditioning now switched off I guess.
Restaurant serving awful food no halal food if required.
All hotel gyms closed.
Who are you trying to kid? |
Provide proof that they are housed in 4 or 5 star hotels.
Or withdraw the lie.
You're just a pathetic nasty sh1t stirrer of the worst kind. Germany 1936 wants you back | | | |
| The Boats keep coming on 23:17 - Aug 13 with 440 views | reusersfreekicks |
| The Boats keep coming on 22:33 - Aug 13 by itfc_statman |
Anyone who's bothered to educate themselves and actually go down and see this in person will tell you it's an unusual sight - so many young males only travelling over here, taking the risk.
The brief study's undertaken by a group at the UEA, not sure if will be published, but yeah the free phone stuff is true. It's also weird, you'd think the government would choose refurb cheaper devices etc but no.
It's a weird world currently and it's certainly not all Kier's fault as some seem to make out, but it is a serious problem and some of the criminality that's happened according to some of Norfolk Police is massively concerning |
The phone stuff is not true.
Cretin | | | |
| The Boats keep coming on 23:19 - Aug 13 with 438 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The Boats keep coming on 22:52 - Aug 13 by vapour_trail |
Good point. They should probs send the children and OAPs to do a reccy first and make sure there’s potential opportunities for the family. |
‘Come on granny. Get your arse over there and grab some free phones for us. I wouldn’t mind a country estate and an investment account at Coutts while you’re at it. Oh, and carry out some murders while you’re waiting for your asylum claim to be processed - it’ll pass the time. Now get going. We’ll look after your zimmer frame’. | |
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| The Boats keep coming on 23:23 - Aug 13 with 429 views | onceablue |
| The Boats keep coming on 23:14 - Aug 13 by reusersfreekicks |
Provide proof that they are housed in 4 or 5 star hotels.
Or withdraw the lie.
You're just a pathetic nasty sh1t stirrer of the worst kind. Germany 1936 wants you back |
Wow calm done mate | | | |
| The Boats keep coming on 23:27 - Aug 13 with 412 views | reusersfreekicks |
| The Boats keep coming on 23:23 - Aug 13 by onceablue |
Wow calm done mate |
Proof re 4 or 5 star hotels? | | | |
| The Boats keep coming on 06:56 - Aug 14 with 281 views | BlueNomad |
| The Boats keep coming on 22:43 - Aug 13 by onceablue |
So I guess the hotels have taken out all the existing nice furniture and have replaced it with crap.
Air conditioning now switched off I guess.
Restaurant serving awful food no halal food if required.
All hotel gyms closed.
Who are you trying to kid? |
When we were taking refugees / asylum seekers from Afghanistan the Daily Mail ran a story about them being accommodated in the “salubrious” Royal Hotel in Clacton. It had been closed, boarded up and empty for years but it didn’t dampen down that rag’s outrage.
Nothing is as simple as you perceive it to be. When will you accept that most on here do not agree with your xenophobia and would rather discuss issues with a degree of understanding and compassion? [Post edited 14 Aug 7:03]
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| The Boats keep coming on 07:38 - Aug 14 with 234 views | onceablue |
| The Boats keep coming on 06:56 - Aug 14 by BlueNomad |
When we were taking refugees / asylum seekers from Afghanistan the Daily Mail ran a story about them being accommodated in the “salubrious” Royal Hotel in Clacton. It had been closed, boarded up and empty for years but it didn’t dampen down that rag’s outrage.
Nothing is as simple as you perceive it to be. When will you accept that most on here do not agree with your xenophobia and would rather discuss issues with a degree of understanding and compassion? [Post edited 14 Aug 7:03]
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Xenophobic are you joking.
I have no problem with anything strange or Foreign I can assure you.
But as I said in my OP how do we pay for it that is the issue here nothing else and as much as you want to throw insults at me call me far right racist etc that just isn’t so. | | | |
| The Boats keep coming on 08:00 - Aug 14 with 187 views | dickie |
| The Boats keep coming on 22:34 - Aug 13 by onceablue |
So they bring phones with them then.
Are they still on their own county’s tariff or have they got free roaming? 😂
If they are only getting £9.95 a week how the hell are they paying for their phones. I have a rubbish phone and it costs me £40 a month. |
Then you're an idiot, I have a half decent phone and pay £6 quid a month - just gotta be savvy | | | |
| The Boats keep coming on 08:04 - Aug 14 with 245 views | Leaky |
| The Boats keep coming on 20:48 - Aug 13 by Pendejo |
That black hole of £50bn is that on top of the £22bn or inclusive?
I mean £28bn in a year is still pretty impressive but then it costs money to fix things and service debt.
Especially when the utilities are foreign owned and the profits flow out of the country rather than reinvested within.
As for the boats; it's Johnson, Farage and the Brexiteers that are to blame. As part of the EU we could send them all back... That's why there's not much appetite to stop them in France, we're not part of Europe so not their problem.
We had more control of our borders as part of EU than we do now. |
Just to correct you , we are part of Europe we only left the EU. |  | | |
| The Boats keep coming on 08:08 - Aug 14 with 242 views | dickie |
| The Boats keep coming on 07:38 - Aug 14 by onceablue |
Xenophobic are you joking.
I have no problem with anything strange or Foreign I can assure you.
But as I said in my OP how do we pay for it that is the issue here nothing else and as much as you want to throw insults at me call me far right racist etc that just isn’t so. |
As was quoted earlier in the thread...
"There’s an estimated 1.7m brits aged 16-30 who have never worked, so even if only 50% of those claim the minimum benefit, that’s a cost of £4bn per year vs the £260m per 100k asylum seekers."
Your xenophobic vitriol blinds you sir. Asylum seekers are but a tiny cost to the economy but your right wing bigotry does loves to hate | | | |
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