| For the bed wetters out there 21:34 - Aug 23 with 1149 views | FelixBlue4 |
Just my opinion but I don’t think we have become a bad team over night. The thing that got us to the elite table was team work, it was never about outstanding players that were wanted by other teams. Now the only way we will stay at the top table is player progression/turn over. This means the favourites do have to move on. Just imagine if these players can work as well as a team then we will be unstoppable in this league. There is no doubt individually we have better players than we had 2 years ago, the idea being that you bring in better players and your first team becomes the support act and so forth. It is how the bigger teams do it, some of our better players have been sold some people don’t like it but that is where we are as a club for a long time always trying to balance the books. The reality is it might not be the season for us this time but we need to stay strong. |  | | |  |
| For the bed wetters out there on 21:47 - Aug 23 with 1073 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
No, not over night, it's been 12 months.
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| For the bed wetters out there on 21:49 - Aug 23 with 1057 views | TractorWood |
Use paragraphs and I'll read it. |  |
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| For the bed wetters out there on 21:50 - Aug 23 with 1046 views | redrickstuhaart |
Worth noting that its a completely different team. So not really a matter of the team we had becoming bad overnight. We have yet to see if this team can build the patterns and reactions needed to succeed. | | | |
| For the bed wetters out there on 21:50 - Aug 23 with 1028 views | pointofblue |
| For the bed wetters out there on 21:49 - Aug 23 by TractorWood |
Use paragraphs and I'll read it. |
TLDR: The players who got us up were not good enough. This lot are superb. Give it time and this will be proved. | |
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| For the bed wetters out there on 21:51 - Aug 23 with 1026 views | lazyblue |
| For the bed wetters out there on 21:49 - Aug 23 by TractorWood |
Use paragraphs and I'll read it. |
Crap statement by you | | | |
| For the bed wetters out there on 21:53 - Aug 23 with 1000 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| For the bed wetters out there on 21:50 - Aug 23 by redrickstuhaart |
Worth noting that its a completely different team. So not really a matter of the team we had becoming bad overnight. We have yet to see if this team can build the patterns and reactions needed to succeed. |
It's a slightly different mix, but a lot of the starting XI have been in the building a long time.
Most teams have change each season.
This 'new team' excuse doesn't really wash. | |
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| For the bed wetters out there on 21:56 - Aug 23 with 952 views | redrickstuhaart |
| For the bed wetters out there on 21:53 - Aug 23 by Marshalls_Mullet |
It's a slightly different mix, but a lot of the starting XI have been in the building a long time.
Most teams have change each season.
This 'new team' excuse doesn't really wash. |
It really hasnt. Even the back 4 has not often played together much. Midfield is a new pairing. The attacking players are largely new, or working with new partners. How often has sammie played 10? Not often. etc etc [Post edited 23 Aug 22:03]
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| For the bed wetters out there on 21:56 - Aug 23 with 945 views | TractorWood |
| For the bed wetters out there on 21:50 - Aug 23 by pointofblue |
TLDR: The players who got us up were not good enough. This lot are superb. Give it time and this will be proved. |
Cheers. Disagree. This lot are mostly bang average, too expensive, lightweight and overpaid.
I like Cajuste, Chaplin, Palmer, O'Shea, Davis and Hirst. Need about 6 more like them. [Post edited 23 Aug 21:57]
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| For the bed wetters out there on 22:00 - Aug 23 with 909 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| For the bed wetters out there on 21:56 - Aug 23 by redrickstuhaart |
It really hasnt. Even the back 4 has not often played together much. Midfield is a new pairing. The attacking players are largely new, or working with new partners. How often has sammie played 10? Not often. etc etc [Post edited 23 Aug 22:03]
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3 of the back four has played loads of matches together.
None of todays front four is new.
It's such a poor excuse, but feel free to use it if it makes you feel better. [Post edited 23 Aug 22:02]
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| For the bed wetters out there on 22:04 - Aug 23 with 863 views | redrickstuhaart |
| For the bed wetters out there on 22:00 - Aug 23 by Marshalls_Mullet |
3 of the back four has played loads of matches together.
None of todays front four is new.
It's such a poor excuse, but feel free to use it if it makes you feel better. [Post edited 23 Aug 22:02]
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Greaves was dropped for a better player. None have played with this midfield (crucial for connecting and playing out). The right back isnt up to it and hasnt even played therefore us that often. | | | |
| For the bed wetters out there on 22:05 - Aug 23 with 845 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| For the bed wetters out there on 22:04 - Aug 23 by redrickstuhaart |
Greaves was dropped for a better player. None have played with this midfield (crucial for connecting and playing out). The right back isnt up to it and hasnt even played therefore us that often. |
Happy to agree to differ. 👍👍 | |
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| For the bed wetters out there on 22:13 - Aug 23 with 796 views | gainsboroughblue |
Could we please, please, please retire this poxy 'bed wetters' phrase. It's getting right on my tits. |  |
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| For the bed wetters out there on 22:16 - Aug 23 with 761 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| For the bed wetters out there on 21:50 - Aug 23 by redrickstuhaart |
Worth noting that its a completely different team. So not really a matter of the team we had becoming bad overnight. We have yet to see if this team can build the patterns and reactions needed to succeed. |
Feels like Southampton and Leicester have had more managers than we’ve had CB pairings. Fed up with this excuse driven narrative. Look at Burnley how many players they lost last summer and their instant points return. It’s just not good enough. |  |
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| For the bed wetters out there on 22:25 - Aug 23 with 705 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| For the bed wetters out there on 22:13 - Aug 23 by gainsboroughblue |
Could we please, please, please retire this poxy 'bed wetters' phrase. It's getting right on my tits. |
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| For the bed wetters out there on 22:30 - Aug 23 with 675 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| For the bed wetters out there on 22:16 - Aug 23 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Feels like Southampton and Leicester have had more managers than we’ve had CB pairings. Fed up with this excuse driven narrative. Look at Burnley how many players they lost last summer and their instant points return. It’s just not good enough. |
Agreed, I think we'll come good, but I don't like these excuses. | |
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| For the bed wetters out there on 22:35 - Aug 23 with 632 views | GlasgowBlue |
We’ve won two home games since Sarmiento scored that last minute winner against Southampton. That was April 2024. Hardly over night. |  |
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| For the bed wetters out there on 23:13 - Aug 23 with 544 views | Simonds92 |
You're right, it's definitely not overnight, its been 12 months of systematically ripping up the team, spirit and mentality that brought us success. I don't think McKenna actually appreciates how special that group of players was. We've replaced them with players who may be much better technically and individually but they're lightweight and bottlers who don't have a winning mentality and certainly don't know what they're doing collectively. [Post edited 23 Aug 23:20]
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| For the bed wetters out there on 23:54 - Aug 23 with 471 views | Juggsy |
| For the bed wetters out there on 21:49 - Aug 23 by TractorWood |
Use paragraphs and I'll read it. |
I switched off after bed wetters … |  | | |
| For the bed wetters out there on 00:05 - Aug 24 with 441 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| For the bed wetters out there on 21:53 - Aug 23 by Marshalls_Mullet |
It's a slightly different mix, but a lot of the starting XI have been in the building a long time.
Most teams have change each season.
This 'new team' excuse doesn't really wash. |
They've been in the building but they weren't playing together and that's the key.
Johnson/ Young --> Clarke/ Ogbene/ McAteer - Every combo a new partnership
Davis --> Philogene - New partnership
Matusiwa --> Taylor - New partnership
O'Shea & Greaves --> Matusiwa & Taylor - New partnership
Everywhere you look there is new partnerships being formed, it will just take a little bit of time to get to the slick operation that we were in 23/24 IMO. | | | |
| For the bed wetters out there on 00:10 - Aug 24 with 427 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| For the bed wetters out there on 22:35 - Aug 23 by GlasgowBlue |
We’ve won two home games since Sarmiento scored that last minute winner against Southampton. That was April 2024. Hardly over night. |
That was near enough the peak. Maybe the day promotion was confirmed arguably or cov away but that Sarmiento moment was the peak. It’s all downhill since. And we won’t ever get back to that level of happiness. |  |
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| For the bed wetters out there on 00:17 - Aug 24 with 399 views | StNeotsBlue |
| For the bed wetters out there on 00:05 - Aug 24 by Bellevue_Blue |
They've been in the building but they weren't playing together and that's the key.
Johnson/ Young --> Clarke/ Ogbene/ McAteer - Every combo a new partnership
Davis --> Philogene - New partnership
Matusiwa --> Taylor - New partnership
O'Shea & Greaves --> Matusiwa & Taylor - New partnership
Everywhere you look there is new partnerships being formed, it will just take a little bit of time to get to the slick operation that we were in 23/24 IMO. |
You have a tiny germ of a point about partnerships, but you are massively overegging it. If any of those players couldn't instinctively play together they wouldn't have made it to the pro game. |  | | |
| For the bed wetters out there on 00:34 - Aug 24 with 359 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
when did criticising a squad that cost best part of £150m for forgetting how to win a game become bedwetting. Why are we not allowed to critique, they are massively underperforming and for the most part have played plenty of games together. It doesn’t mean the wheels have fallen off, but clearly it’s not good enough. | | | |
| For the bed wetters out there on 00:50 - Aug 24 with 328 views | reusersfreekicks |
| For the bed wetters out there on 21:50 - Aug 23 by pointofblue |
TLDR: The players who got us up were not good enough. This lot are superb. Give it time and this will be proved. |
Yeah ok. Is ITFC PR rep a good job? |  | | |
| For the bed wetters out there on 08:20 - Aug 24 with 128 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| For the bed wetters out there on 00:17 - Aug 24 by StNeotsBlue |
You have a tiny germ of a point about partnerships, but you are massively overegging it. If any of those players couldn't instinctively play together they wouldn't have made it to the pro game. |
I'm don't think I am at all. You're in a position where you're a team with 70% of the ball in yesterday's case. It's up to you to break down that low block and to do that you have to play fast and to do that effectively, you have to know what the other person is going to do and where they're going to be.
We do not currently have that, especially on the left and right. I presume you watched the game. Would you say that many if any showed the ability to instinctively connect?
I can't think of a single time any of those partnerships connected really effectively to create a good chance. | | | |
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