| Omari blow 08:46 - Sep 5 with 2443 views | Bucklebury_blue |
Despite the weasly way he engineered his move by 'being poorly', I feel sorry for Omari now he has been left out of Forest's Europa League squad. Playing in Europe must have played a part in his decision to go to Forest but now he (and Zinchenko) seem to be pawns in a power struggle between the owner and Nuno who fell out over transfer policy. Nuno seems to be saying 'Sign who you like but I pick the team'. |  | | |  |
| Omari blow on 08:50 - Sep 5 with 2050 views | blueasfook |
Who? |  |
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| Omari blow on 09:02 - Sep 5 with 1930 views | TIB |
Imagine they don’t want that sore throat spreading across Europe. |  |
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| Omari blow on 09:06 - Sep 5 with 1902 views | Hciwspi |
He’s made his bed etc |  | | |
| Omari blow on 09:07 - Sep 5 with 1897 views | baxterbasics |
This is getting a little tedious now.
One of our best (arguably best) players of the previous two seasons and a vital component of our last promotion. |  |
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| Omari blow on 09:11 - Sep 5 with 1844 views | EuanTown |
| Omari blow on 09:07 - Sep 5 by baxterbasics |
This is getting a little tedious now.
One of our best (arguably best) players of the previous two seasons and a vital component of our last promotion. |
Who is no longer one of of our players.
Some will be interested in his future, others of us are not.
Each to their own. |  | | |
| Omari blow on 09:19 - Sep 5 with 1779 views | BlueNomad |
| Omari blow on 09:11 - Sep 5 by EuanTown |
Who is no longer one of of our players.
Some will be interested in his future, others of us are not.
Each to their own. |
It’s such a shame. I had thought that when he inevitably left this summer I would be willing him to do well in every game. Due to the way he behaved in the last few weeks I am totally indifferent to him and his success or otherwise. He listened to his agent, whose sole interest is money, and stuck his middle finger up at the club and fans.
Meanwhile I wish Conor and Wolfie all the very best. |  | | |
| Omari blow on 09:19 - Sep 5 with 1769 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Think the OP is right in that this seems to be a power play between owner and manager.
Does appear that Nuno didn't really want Omari and it was cooked up between his agent, Edu and owner, who are all close friends.
It could affect us later. You'd imagine that Ashton negotiated a sell on and if Nuno doesn't want him, Omari's value will ultimately reduce, so it really doesn't pay us to be smug about the situation. |  |
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| Omari blow on 09:23 - Sep 5 with 1703 views | blueasfook |
| Omari blow on 09:07 - Sep 5 by baxterbasics |
This is getting a little tedious now.
One of our best (arguably best) players of the previous two seasons and a vital component of our last promotion. |
He didnt give a fook about this club, just about securing his own future. The way he acted to get himself a transfer was shameful. He wasn't even that good anyway. Held on to the ball too long and insisted on blasting at goal from 20 yards out too often. | |
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| Omari blow on 09:24 - Sep 5 with 1686 views | textbackup |
Why?
He literally refused to play for the club you support
Edit - Baxter isnt a town fan, he doesn’t mind if players refuse to play for us. Glad I know who’s who on here [Post edited 5 Sep 9:40]
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| Omari blow on 09:25 - Sep 5 with 1655 views | DecageBruce |
I think the reason he’s had to be left out (or been chosen as one to leave out) is due to home grown players or lack of. Not sure on the detail but heard that due to missing targets on homegrown players the squad size they’ve been able to choose in Europe was reduced from 25-22.
There’s still obviously the reason for him not being in the 22 to fully understand which, as you and others have said, sound like Nuno doesn’t fancy him at the moment
Edit: This is from the BBC Website ‘ Forest have been restricted to 22 players given their lack of home grown players. Only Ryan Yates is in their list A squad.
Uefa want four club-trained players in squads, otherwise clubs are limited by the numbers they do not have, so Forest could only name a 22-man squad.’ [Post edited 5 Sep 9:30]
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| Omari blow on 09:28 - Sep 5 with 1580 views | blueasfook |
| Omari blow on 09:19 - Sep 5 by BlueNomad |
It’s such a shame. I had thought that when he inevitably left this summer I would be willing him to do well in every game. Due to the way he behaved in the last few weeks I am totally indifferent to him and his success or otherwise. He listened to his agent, whose sole interest is money, and stuck his middle finger up at the club and fans.
Meanwhile I wish Conor and Wolfie all the very best. |
Yep, true pros who left with dignity, and will be warmly remembered by the fans. | |
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| Omari blow on 09:39 - Sep 5 with 1453 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Omari blow on 09:25 - Sep 5 by DecageBruce |
I think the reason he’s had to be left out (or been chosen as one to leave out) is due to home grown players or lack of. Not sure on the detail but heard that due to missing targets on homegrown players the squad size they’ve been able to choose in Europe was reduced from 25-22.
There’s still obviously the reason for him not being in the 22 to fully understand which, as you and others have said, sound like Nuno doesn’t fancy him at the moment
Edit: This is from the BBC Website ‘ Forest have been restricted to 22 players given their lack of home grown players. Only Ryan Yates is in their list A squad.
Uefa want four club-trained players in squads, otherwise clubs are limited by the numbers they do not have, so Forest could only name a 22-man squad.’ [Post edited 5 Sep 9:30]
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So, he wouldn't be in there anyway, as the remaining 3 slots would be taken up with 'Homegrown'
With the best will in the world, if Nuno wanted him, he'd be in it. | |
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| Omari blow on 09:43 - Sep 5 with 1390 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Omari blow on 09:39 - Sep 5 by Cheltenham_Blue |
So, he wouldn't be in there anyway, as the remaining 3 slots would be taken up with 'Homegrown'
With the best will in the world, if Nuno wanted him, he'd be in it. |
Omari is Homegrown. | | | |
| Omari blow on 09:48 - Sep 5 with 1317 views | Guthrum |
Possibly a conflation of terminology between the League's "home grown" (i.e. came through an English academy) and UEFA's apparent "club-trained" requirement". Or just different definitions of the same word by the two organisations. [Post edited 5 Sep 9:49]
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| Omari blow on 09:49 - Sep 5 with 1305 views | SouthBucksBlue |
I doubt whether European football had anything to do with his decision.
Purely prem wages and contract for him and another fee for his agent who presumably had already pocketed a fee for the loan 2 years ago and trousered another for the transfer last year. [Post edited 5 Sep 9:52]
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| Omari blow on 09:50 - Sep 5 with 1284 views | bsw72 |
Young player, no doubt influenced by agents and others has ended up at a club which seems to have some internal challenges currently.
The whole thing has been unfortunate for all, but I guess we got the £37M in the bank.
I feel no particular animosity towards Omari, that's just a waste of energy. |  | | |
| Omari blow on 09:53 - Sep 5 with 1245 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Omari blow on 09:23 - Sep 5 by blueasfook |
He didnt give a fook about this club, just about securing his own future. The way he acted to get himself a transfer was shameful. He wasn't even that good anyway. Held on to the ball too long and insisted on blasting at goal from 20 yards out too often. |
Omari reached the same stage as Delap where fans pretend he wasn't good because they wanted to leave. |  |
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| Omari blow on 09:57 - Sep 5 with 1208 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Omari blow on 09:50 - Sep 5 by bsw72 |
Young player, no doubt influenced by agents and others has ended up at a club which seems to have some internal challenges currently.
The whole thing has been unfortunate for all, but I guess we got the £37M in the bank.
I feel no particular animosity towards Omari, that's just a waste of energy. |
Well said.
Omari was a huge part of helping us get promoted to the premier league, we would not have got over the line without him. I didn't particularly like what he did, but it happens and as you say he probably was advised that was the best thing for his career and took that advice.
I hope he does well. | |
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| Omari blow on 10:06 - Sep 5 with 1111 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Omari blow on 09:48 - Sep 5 by Guthrum |
Possibly a conflation of terminology between the League's "home grown" (i.e. came through an English academy) and UEFA's apparent "club-trained" requirement". Or just different definitions of the same word by the two organisations. [Post edited 5 Sep 9:49]
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There are two definitions in the rulebook that people often mix up.
Home Grown - 3years / 36 months, not necessarily continuous, registered with an English FA club prior to the end of the season they turn 21.
Club Developed - registered with the club for 12 months prior to the end of the season they turn 19.
Homegrown in UEFA is a very similar definition, and aligns with the FA in practical terms. | | | |
| Omari blow on 10:15 - Sep 5 with 1035 views | Guthrum |
| Omari blow on 10:06 - Sep 5 by SuffolkPunchFC |
There are two definitions in the rulebook that people often mix up.
Home Grown - 3years / 36 months, not necessarily continuous, registered with an English FA club prior to the end of the season they turn 21.
Club Developed - registered with the club for 12 months prior to the end of the season they turn 19.
Homegrown in UEFA is a very similar definition, and aligns with the FA in practical terms. |
I didn't know the UEFA definition (or indeed if the article was using the correct term at all).
The thing which often confuses people is that the first, Home Grown, can be at any FA club in England, not necessarily the one the player is with now. | |
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| Omari blow on 10:17 - Sep 5 with 1001 views | football |
Which is correct - Nuno should pick the team he thinks is best not who the Greek bought | | | |
| Omari blow on 10:17 - Sep 5 with 991 views | Wakh |
| Omari blow on 09:23 - Sep 5 by blueasfook |
He didnt give a fook about this club, just about securing his own future. The way he acted to get himself a transfer was shameful. He wasn't even that good anyway. Held on to the ball too long and insisted on blasting at goal from 20 yards out too often. |
If we continue to progress as we are I fear this anger might become more common for you. Modern football, well sport as a whole is different now. Player power is nothing compared to what it will be in the coming years. Even the PFA want it to be like that. [Post edited 5 Sep 10:18]
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| Omari blow on 10:22 - Sep 5 with 870 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Omari blow on 09:07 - Sep 5 by baxterbasics |
This is getting a little tedious now.
One of our best (arguably best) players of the previous two seasons and a vital component of our last promotion. |
as the once great km said
we can't keep looking at the past............. |  |
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| Omari blow on 10:22 - Sep 5 with 869 views | Bluemike31 |
It's his own fault, he acted appallingly, sadly sometimes you reap what you sew. All he had to do was to ask KM, "I am available to play but please put me on the bench" surely it appeases everyone and he's there should we need him, was getting bloody paid after all. | | | |
| Omari blow on 10:35 - Sep 5 with 794 views | BloomBlue |
He made his own choice, or maybe in his case he let his agent make his choice for him.
NF can change that list of players later in the competition, if they remain in it, he needs to up his performance levels in the PL to force himself into.
Although I don't think NF playing in Europe made any difference to Omari's decision. If Brentford had matched his release clause he would have jumped to them, and they aren't in Europe. It was playing in the PL, and the PL wages which drove Omari's decision. The problem was the road he choice to get there, the refusing to play, was disrespectful to Town |  | | |
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