| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah 20:24 - Sep 10 with 38430 views | ElderGrizzly |
Was speaking at a University event and appears to have been shot (from distance) in the neck.
And actually shot, not the Donald Trump kind.
Horrific whatever your political views and has no place in politics
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 16:46 - Sep 12 with 2006 views | positivity |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 16:11 - Sep 12 by Swailsey |
Too soon to judge: other reports state he was a Trump supporter, from a republican household.
Let’s just wait and see.
There have already been attempts to smear this as a trans-led murder, so let’s not add fuel to the fire. |
don't know anything about the utah governor, but one part of his his address stood out as far more sensible than trump etc's attempts to throw fuel on the fire
"log off, turn off, touch grass, hug a family member, go out and do good in your community".
"This our moment. Do we escalate or do we find an off-ramp? It's a choice, and every one of us gets to make that choice," |  |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:23 - Sep 12 with 1873 views | Kievthegreat |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 16:11 - Sep 12 by Swailsey |
Too soon to judge: other reports state he was a Trump supporter, from a republican household.
Let’s just wait and see.
There have already been attempts to smear this as a trans-led murder, so let’s not add fuel to the fire. |
This is all from law enforcement officials, reported by the BBC and other major news organisations. This isn't adding fuel to the fire. It's just reporting the facts.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c206zm81z4gt
PS. I did forget to share the link in the original post though which was a boo boo on my behalf. |  | | |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:33 - Sep 12 with 1815 views | Kievthegreat |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:23 - Sep 12 by Kievthegreat |
This is all from law enforcement officials, reported by the BBC and other major news organisations. This isn't adding fuel to the fire. It's just reporting the facts.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c206zm81z4gt
PS. I did forget to share the link in the original post though which was a boo boo on my behalf. |
Worth adding that the other casing have very different things engraved. Including:
"If you read this, you are gay lmao"
“notices bulges OwO what’s this?”
and according to one website (not seen the pictures yet), the instructions for a Helldivers 2 stratagem, which the BBC incorrectly describe as a cheat code! According to Verge it's the sequence for calling in an Eagle 500kg bomb, for any fellow divers who were interested.
https://www.theverge.com/politics/777313/charlie-kirks-alleged-killer-scratched- | | | |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:37 - Sep 12 with 1755 views | blueasfook |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 16:08 - Sep 12 by BlacknGoldnBlue |
The fact his own father has helped him being caught is just amazing strength...
How much his father probably wrestled with the fact that by doing the right thing he is quite possibly sending his son to death..how conflicting his thoughts probably were...
I hope he's getting support. |
Good post. Hard to imagine as a father how you'd deal with that one. |  |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 18:08 - Sep 12 with 1639 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 15:44 - Sep 12 by Kievthegreat |
22 Year old Tyler Robinson has been arrested. Turned in by his family.
Also engravings on the casings make his view reasonably clear:
"Hey fascist! Catch!" and "o bella ciao, bella ciao" |
This is what happens when people throw around the term fascist without actually knowing what a fascist is. People have views that many of us find abhorrent. Debate them. But using a term such as fascist takes things to the next level. |  |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 18:41 - Sep 12 with 1542 views | JohnTy |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:33 - Sep 12 by Kievthegreat |
Worth adding that the other casing have very different things engraved. Including:
"If you read this, you are gay lmao"
“notices bulges OwO what’s this?”
and according to one website (not seen the pictures yet), the instructions for a Helldivers 2 stratagem, which the BBC incorrectly describe as a cheat code! According to Verge it's the sequence for calling in an Eagle 500kg bomb, for any fellow divers who were interested.
https://www.theverge.com/politics/777313/charlie-kirks-alleged-killer-scratched- |
Some speculation online that Robinson may be a groyper.
https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-suspect-is-a-gun-lovin
Certainly he does not seem to have the profile of a "hard left" activist. |  | | |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 18:44 - Sep 12 with 1511 views | Trequartista |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 18:08 - Sep 12 by GlasgowBlue |
This is what happens when people throw around the term fascist without actually knowing what a fascist is. People have views that many of us find abhorrent. Debate them. But using a term such as fascist takes things to the next level. |
100% - hope people learn the harshest of lessons |  |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 18:46 - Sep 12 with 1495 views | positivity |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 18:44 - Sep 12 by Trequartista |
100% - hope people learn the harshest of lessons |
the harshest of lessons? what do you mean by that? i prefer the following:-
"log off, turn off, touch grass, hug a family member, go out and do good in your community".
"This our moment. Do we escalate or do we find an off-ramp? It's a choice, and every one of us gets to make that choice," | |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 18:57 - Sep 12 with 1418 views | DanTheMan |
They're terminally online whoever they are given some of the stuff that's come out. |  |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 20:40 - Sep 12 with 1177 views | iamatractorboy |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 18:08 - Sep 12 by GlasgowBlue |
This is what happens when people throw around the term fascist without actually knowing what a fascist is. People have views that many of us find abhorrent. Debate them. But using a term such as fascist takes things to the next level. |
I appreciate this may be a different issue but do you not agree that the US is, at least, quite a long way down the path towards fascism, if it's not already there? | | | |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 20:56 - Sep 12 with 1127 views | Trequartista |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 18:46 - Sep 12 by positivity |
the harshest of lessons? what do you mean by that? i prefer the following:-
"log off, turn off, touch grass, hug a family member, go out and do good in your community".
"This our moment. Do we escalate or do we find an off-ramp? It's a choice, and every one of us gets to make that choice," |
Not to call people fascists who are not fascists to justify violence against them is the lesson | |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 21:05 - Sep 12 with 1079 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 20:56 - Sep 12 by Trequartista |
Not to call people fascists who are not fascists to justify violence against them is the lesson |
What part of silencing opposition, deporting foreigners, arresting people without trial, undercover snatch squads on teh streets, putting military into opposition controlled cities on a false premise etc etc etc is not "fascist"? | | | |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 23:49 - Sep 12 with 994 views | Libero |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 21:05 - Sep 12 by redrickstuhaart |
What part of silencing opposition, deporting foreigners, arresting people without trial, undercover snatch squads on teh streets, putting military into opposition controlled cities on a false premise etc etc etc is not "fascist"? |
There’s no point engaging directly with these people mate.
I wish I hadn’t, so many fascist apologists in this thread- nauseating. |  | | |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 23:51 - Sep 12 with 987 views | TresBonne |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 23:49 - Sep 12 by Libero |
There’s no point engaging directly with these people mate.
I wish I hadn’t, so many fascist apologists in this thread- nauseating. |
We just won 5-0 mate…don’t waste your evening on this thread. |  | | |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 23:55 - Sep 12 with 954 views | Libero |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 23:51 - Sep 12 by TresBonne |
We just won 5-0 mate…don’t waste your evening on this thread. |
😂 thanks for the advice, however I was offering the poster I responded to the very same advice 🥲
We were thucking class in the second half tonight! | | | |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 23:58 - Sep 12 with 935 views | TresBonne |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 23:55 - Sep 12 by Libero |
😂 thanks for the advice, however I was offering the poster I responded to the very same advice 🥲
We were thucking class in the second half tonight! |
Can’t say I agree with a lot of your opinions, but I one hundred percent agree with that one ;) | | | |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 00:50 - Sep 13 with 826 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
OK I can't keep up, are fascists just centrists now!
Anyhow COYFB.....needed that! |  |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 01:11 - Sep 13 with 777 views | TresBonne |
An interesting video I thought I’d leave for the morning.
I mean, I was at the game and never heard this, definitely not from Town fans. A mic near the away fans maybe? Very odd one I must say. | | | |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 07:26 - Sep 13 with 426 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 21:05 - Sep 12 by redrickstuhaart |
What part of silencing opposition, deporting foreigners, arresting people without trial, undercover snatch squads on teh streets, putting military into opposition controlled cities on a false premise etc etc etc is not "fascist"? |
Advocating the euthanasia of homeless and the mentally ill is a bit Hitlery isn’t it?
Emboldened by a President and his rhetoric | | | |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 08:26 - Sep 13 with 309 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 07:26 - Sep 13 by ElderGrizzly |
Advocating the euthanasia of homeless and the mentally ill is a bit Hitlery isn’t it?
Emboldened by a President and his rhetoric |
Hitler was a Nazi. Nazism differs greatly from fascism inasmuch as racial hatred and genocide of races thought of as inferior is at the heart of Nazism whereas as fascism traditioniibaly focussed on totalitarianism and nationalism without the racial hatred. Hitler took the parts of fascism he liked and devolved a whole new evil concept.
That’s why I posted last night that people shouldn’t throw around terms like Nazis and fascist at people whose views we find abhorrent. And I completely reject the views of Charlie Kirk. But using terms that people don’t completely understand, such as fascism, is very sixth form imo and comes with deliberate shock factor, we can’t call everyone we disagree with Nazis or fascist. It trivialises both terms.
But what I’ve written is probably too wordy to inspire somebody to pick up a gun and kill him whereas throwing around words like fascist isnt.
Most of Charlie Kirk’s abhorrent views come from the point of his religious beliefs. He was basically a white toothed clean cut version of the Westborough baptists. He was a right wing Christian conservative. His views were also all over the place with his anti vax stance during COVID etc. he spread misinformation and his support of Trump was desperately at odds with his religious beliefs. It’s hard to put Charlie Kirk into one particular box.
Did he share sone views that could be attributed to fascism? Yes. But then so do many far right religious groups such as the Taliban, the Iranian regime etc. That doesn’t make them fascists and it’s just an oversimplification to call him one. It’s lazy name calling from people with little understanding of history and what fascism actually is.
Edit. I wish I had more time to contribute to this but I’m off somewhere so may return to this later or tomorrow. [Post edited 13 Sep 8:33]
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 08:33 - Sep 13 with 275 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 08:26 - Sep 13 by GlasgowBlue |
Hitler was a Nazi. Nazism differs greatly from fascism inasmuch as racial hatred and genocide of races thought of as inferior is at the heart of Nazism whereas as fascism traditioniibaly focussed on totalitarianism and nationalism without the racial hatred. Hitler took the parts of fascism he liked and devolved a whole new evil concept.
That’s why I posted last night that people shouldn’t throw around terms like Nazis and fascist at people whose views we find abhorrent. And I completely reject the views of Charlie Kirk. But using terms that people don’t completely understand, such as fascism, is very sixth form imo and comes with deliberate shock factor, we can’t call everyone we disagree with Nazis or fascist. It trivialises both terms.
But what I’ve written is probably too wordy to inspire somebody to pick up a gun and kill him whereas throwing around words like fascist isnt.
Most of Charlie Kirk’s abhorrent views come from the point of his religious beliefs. He was basically a white toothed clean cut version of the Westborough baptists. He was a right wing Christian conservative. His views were also all over the place with his anti vax stance during COVID etc. he spread misinformation and his support of Trump was desperately at odds with his religious beliefs. It’s hard to put Charlie Kirk into one particular box.
Did he share sone views that could be attributed to fascism? Yes. But then so do many far right religious groups such as the Taliban, the Iranian regime etc. That doesn’t make them fascists and it’s just an oversimplification to call him one. It’s lazy name calling from people with little understanding of history and what fascism actually is.
Edit. I wish I had more time to contribute to this but I’m off somewhere so may return to this later or tomorrow. [Post edited 13 Sep 8:33]
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I understand it perfectly well, even at a patronising 6th form way,
I’m purposefully using their language against them which GOP and their MAGA have used in the last 48 hours.
My point of course was the clip, which you’ve totally missed where the President’s biggest cheerleaders and biggest news TV show just floated euthanasia against homeless and mentally ill people. And no-one batted an eyelid | | | |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 08:40 - Sep 13 with 241 views | noggin |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 01:11 - Sep 13 by TresBonne |
An interesting video I thought I’d leave for the morning.
I mean, I was at the game and never heard this, definitely not from Town fans. A mic near the away fans maybe? Very odd one I must say. |
I think I might need a hearing test. What is being chanted? |  |
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 08:42 - Sep 13 with 230 views | Libero |
| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 08:33 - Sep 13 by ElderGrizzly |
I understand it perfectly well, even at a patronising 6th form way,
I’m purposefully using their language against them which GOP and their MAGA have used in the last 48 hours.
My point of course was the clip, which you’ve totally missed where the President’s biggest cheerleaders and biggest news TV show just floated euthanasia against homeless and mentally ill people. And no-one batted an eyelid |
Time to dig out the basic definition, seeing as the apologists are getting louder.
“Fascism is characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy”
It’s sounding a bit fascist isn’t it…
But you know, they’re probably *just* saying and doing fascist things and not *actually* some form of quasi-fascists. 🥲 [Post edited 13 Sep 8:44]
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| Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 08:57 - Sep 13 with 147 views | Libero |
It will, Trump and his cabal rely on division, which is why it’s left such a bad taste that they’ve successfully gas lit people into thinking that it’s the crazy far left who are stoking fires and making division, blaming them for Kirk’s assassination when seemingly it was someone grown from within their culture that commited this murder.
This will just be used as an excuse to double down, have more military occupying cities and carrying on with the saying and doing fascist things that they already are. | | | |
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