| Thoughts 13:43 - Oct 15 with 7284 views | IH_KGF |
A lovely couple we know are getting married, and we (as a family) have been invited to their special day.
Both are extremely passionate vegans, their life, fair play.
The menu is only vegan options. I'll eat anything. The children however, of the 2 options to pick from aren't going to be touched.
We've asked them if it would be ok if they picked something off the non vegan menu (at the hotel) told straight up no.
Now, i get their position, however on our own wedding day some years back WE ensured that their dietary needs were full catered for, paying extra for them to have something not on the menu. (the only people out of 80/90 that were vegans)
To ensure the peace is kept we've said to not bother with ordering food for the kids, and before/after the food we'll take the kids away from the main event to get them something to fill their tummy's... told that isn't an option.
As I see it;
- our kids not wanting that food is OUR problem
- we've offered a suggestion to them save money
- we've taken the worry away from them
- but they are basically saying they must order food from the vegan menu, not eat it, and can't leave the room after to get food that they would like.
Starting to think i might not bother going at this rate... but the great minds of TWTD might be able to tell me otherwise.
Oh, and its strictly alcohol free, not free as in drink all you want, free as in not a drop! |  | | |  |
| Thoughts on 13:10 - Oct 16 with 784 views | vapour_trail |
| Thoughts on 12:52 - Oct 16 by Pinewoodblue |
I was seeking clarification, perhaps it would have been better to draw my own conclusions rather than risk side tracking what has been a very useful thread. |
Someone else is trying their hardest to do that already.
For clarity though, I definitely meant ‘your’. |  |
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| Thoughts on 13:11 - Oct 16 with 779 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Thoughts on 13:08 - Oct 16 by NthQldITFC |
I went to an Indian restaurant last night. After I had ordered, a little old lady came up to me and said, "Aren't you polite. You have such lovely manners."
It was my complimentary nan. |
There's a chance that won't be appreciated by some, so can I just say bravo. |  |
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| Thoughts on 13:14 - Oct 16 with 763 views | MattinLondon |
| Thoughts on 12:13 - Oct 16 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Yes. If kids are brought up on say a veggie diet, they don't start wanting turkey twizzlers. Kids get fussy and wanting cr@p because their parents give it to them. Cue the downvotes! |
On paper you’re probably correct but in reality you’re not. Parents can be really strict with what their kids eat but children are really curious. They see foods like chicken nuggets and pizza etc and they want to try - especially after having them at birthday parties-as they are tasty.
Cue the upvotes. [Post edited 16 Oct 13:25]
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| Thoughts on 13:16 - Oct 16 with 752 views | leitrimblue |
| Thoughts on 12:13 - Oct 16 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Yes. If kids are brought up on say a veggie diet, they don't start wanting turkey twizzlers. Kids get fussy and wanting cr@p because their parents give it to them. Cue the downvotes! |
While there may be a tiny bit of truth in that. The whole story is a lot more complicated and complex in the real world.
You should screenshot your post and send it to Mrs Flash. She should then secretly keep hold if it til you have kids of a certain age and then whip it out while one of um is being picky ( preferably while having a tantrum) in a restaurant..  |  | | |
| Thoughts on 13:21 - Oct 16 with 711 views | MattinLondon |
| Thoughts on 13:16 - Oct 16 by leitrimblue |
While there may be a tiny bit of truth in that. The whole story is a lot more complicated and complex in the real world.
You should screenshot your post and send it to Mrs Flash. She should then secretly keep hold if it til you have kids of a certain age and then whip it out while one of um is being picky ( preferably while having a tantrum) in a restaurant.. |
A couple I know had their first child six or so years ago. Both foodies and both were adamant that their child won’t eat from the kids menu as the food tended to bland and too samey.
I love to say that that child has a broad palette but no. Pizza or chicken nuggets with vanilla ice cream for afters. | | | |
| Thoughts on 13:22 - Oct 16 with 705 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Thoughts on 12:21 - Oct 16 by IH_KGF |
From the very limited posts I've read from you on here, may I ask, are you always like this?
You come across very confrontational and, dare i say it, rude.
Sorry if I'm just getting that version of you currently, and you are normally a decent chap. |
Me and Flash have had our fair share of exchanges however, I wouldn't say Flash is confrontational, but more passionate about their opinions which is what many of us do on the forum.
There's an element of truth in what Flash wrote btw and I am a father
Every family and every person is different of course so it's not something that i'd say happens in all households, but it most certainly could be a situation in many families | |
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| Thoughts on 13:55 - Oct 16 with 662 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Thoughts on 12:21 - Oct 16 by IH_KGF |
From the very limited posts I've read from you on here, may I ask, are you always like this?
You come across very confrontational and, dare i say it, rude.
Sorry if I'm just getting that version of you currently, and you are normally a decent chap. |
That comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, sorry if it came across rude!
It's a bit weird, though, that you're calling me confrontational and rude after just saying "Chill people, its the internet" slightly earlier. |  |
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| Thoughts on 14:00 - Oct 16 with 641 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Thoughts on 13:16 - Oct 16 by leitrimblue |
While there may be a tiny bit of truth in that. The whole story is a lot more complicated and complex in the real world.
You should screenshot your post and send it to Mrs Flash. She should then secretly keep hold if it til you have kids of a certain age and then whip it out while one of um is being picky ( preferably while having a tantrum) in a restaurant.. |
Ha, that would be a hell of a lot of effort to prove a point! | |
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| Thoughts on 14:08 - Oct 16 with 611 views | IH_KGF |
| Thoughts on 13:55 - Oct 16 by The_Flashing_Smile |
That comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, sorry if it came across rude!
It's a bit weird, though, that you're calling me confrontational and rude after just saying "Chill people, its the internet" slightly earlier. |
I'd have thought it was obvious the "chill" comment is around how people throw weight around on threads. (Clearly need to ensure I'm a lot more clearer moving forwards, I take that onboard.)
Not about how someone would feel/react when reading it.
Anyhow, I wish you well. I hope you have a great time at Boro if you are making the trip | | | |
| Thoughts on 14:34 - Oct 16 with 548 views | Parky |
Tell them to fúck off and take your kids / family out for the day instead and eat whatever you want. |  | | |
| Thoughts on 14:59 - Oct 16 with 493 views | MattinLondon |
| Thoughts on 14:34 - Oct 16 by Parky |
Tell them to fúck off and take your kids / family out for the day instead and eat whatever you want. |
Or rather than acting like a massive snowflake, simply politely decline, hope that they have a happy day, and have a family day out somewhere. | | | |
| Thoughts on 15:11 - Oct 16 with 464 views | J2BLUE |
| Thoughts on 14:26 - Oct 15 by GlasgowBlue |
On a side note my kids ( I say kids, they are 18, 23, 23 & 25) are threatening to boycott Christmas dinner because we are serving a vegan Beef Wellington. |
invite them to yours for a burger or steak at some point during October.
Serve a Beyond Meat burger or Juicy Marbles fillet steak. Let them eat it and then smugly tell them it was vegan.
Once you have proven that the very best vegan alternatives are incredibly good they may be able forgive you. |  |
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| Thoughts on 15:24 - Oct 16 with 437 views | Ryorry |
| Thoughts on 14:59 - Oct 16 by MattinLondon |
Or rather than acting like a massive snowflake, simply politely decline, hope that they have a happy day, and have a family day out somewhere. |
Or they could aim for inclusivity & go with something along the lines of "we're vegans, so the menu will primarily be that, but we would like all our guests to have the most enjoyable day possible & celebrate with us, so there'll be an alternative available - please let us know of that, or any special dietary requirements, in advance - thanks".
Think the *hospitality" aspect of inviting *guests* to your wedding is mostly being missed here. At most weddings,ther'll be some guests who'll have travelled a long way at considerable expense & time cost to be there. Why screen out some of your friends? Or perhaps it's their surreptitious way of sorting out the wheat from the chaff! |  |
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| Thoughts on 15:59 - Oct 16 with 363 views | Herbivore |
| Thoughts on 15:24 - Oct 16 by Ryorry |
Or they could aim for inclusivity & go with something along the lines of "we're vegans, so the menu will primarily be that, but we would like all our guests to have the most enjoyable day possible & celebrate with us, so there'll be an alternative available - please let us know of that, or any special dietary requirements, in advance - thanks".
Think the *hospitality" aspect of inviting *guests* to your wedding is mostly being missed here. At most weddings,ther'll be some guests who'll have travelled a long way at considerable expense & time cost to be there. Why screen out some of your friends? Or perhaps it's their surreptitious way of sorting out the wheat from the chaff! |
FFS. |  |
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| Thoughts on 16:03 - Oct 16 with 347 views | DJR |
I once went to a HIndu wedding. There was no alcohol and the food was vegetarian Indian.
Had I had children at the time, I doubt they would have liked it, but I wouldn't have missed it for the world.
Life is all about experiences, and the more the merrier for me. [Post edited 16 Oct 16:05]
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| Thoughts on 16:04 - Oct 16 with 336 views | DanTheMan |
| Thoughts on 15:24 - Oct 16 by Ryorry |
Or they could aim for inclusivity & go with something along the lines of "we're vegans, so the menu will primarily be that, but we would like all our guests to have the most enjoyable day possible & celebrate with us, so there'll be an alternative available - please let us know of that, or any special dietary requirements, in advance - thanks".
Think the *hospitality" aspect of inviting *guests* to your wedding is mostly being missed here. At most weddings,ther'll be some guests who'll have travelled a long way at considerable expense & time cost to be there. Why screen out some of your friends? Or perhaps it's their surreptitious way of sorting out the wheat from the chaff! |
Is it really that much to ask not to eat meat for one whole meal? Obviously the stuff needs to cater for people who have medical requirements but that's usually simply done. |  |
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| Thoughts on 16:13 - Oct 16 with 299 views | Ryorry |
| Thoughts on 16:04 - Oct 16 by DanTheMan |
Is it really that much to ask not to eat meat for one whole meal? Obviously the stuff needs to cater for people who have medical requirements but that's usually simply done. |
Sorry if I didn’t make it clear, but I was still referring to the OP saying that the couple getting married had refused to allow his 10-year old child to even leave the room to eat an alternative because he wouldn’t contemplate the vegan fare at the table.
What are families with fussy kids, esp younger ones, supposed to do?
Not sure why I’m getting the flak here, I support veganism where it’s possible; there’ve been posts that have gone unremarked despite being pretty hostile in tone to it. [Post edited 16 Oct 16:17]
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| Thoughts on 16:13 - Oct 16 with 292 views | eireblue |
| Thoughts on 15:24 - Oct 16 by Ryorry |
Or they could aim for inclusivity & go with something along the lines of "we're vegans, so the menu will primarily be that, but we would like all our guests to have the most enjoyable day possible & celebrate with us, so there'll be an alternative available - please let us know of that, or any special dietary requirements, in advance - thanks".
Think the *hospitality" aspect of inviting *guests* to your wedding is mostly being missed here. At most weddings,ther'll be some guests who'll have travelled a long way at considerable expense & time cost to be there. Why screen out some of your friends? Or perhaps it's their surreptitious way of sorting out the wheat from the chaff! |
That isn’t how ethical veganism works for some.
As with Muslims, it against their religion to even buy pork for someone else.
Why would you want someone to have to compromise Article 9 of the human rights act.
“.. right to freedom of thought, belief, and religion, allowing individuals to hold and change their beliefs and to manifest them in practice….”
You wouldn’t insist a devout Muslim buy you pork or alcohol.
It’s a non-vegan world, a vegan couple want to spend money on a vegan event for a short period of time on a special day.
As is their human right as it happens.
As would be the case if they were Jewish/Muslim/Buddhist…etc..
If I was invited to a Muslim wedding, I wouldn’t be assuming anyone is trying to convert me to a Muslim, and I wouldn’t insist on bringing alcohol, consuming alcohol, and I definitely wouldn’t be insisting on a Muslim buying me alcohol.
Being polite and respectful at a wedding with restricted food or beverages for a few hours, isn’t the worst thing that will happen to me, I reckon I probably cope pretty well.
The OP can simply decline the invitation. |  | | |
| Thoughts on 16:15 - Oct 16 with 286 views | Herbivore |
| Thoughts on 16:04 - Oct 16 by DanTheMan |
Is it really that much to ask not to eat meat for one whole meal? Obviously the stuff needs to cater for people who have medical requirements but that's usually simply done. |
For people who have to avoid fibre, seitan contains basically no fibre so there are options aside from meat. It's one meal. Expecting vegans to compromise their beliefs to provide animal based alternatives is a bit bloody much, plant based food is (generally) very inclusive because (almost) everyone can eat it. | |
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| Thoughts on 16:18 - Oct 16 with 280 views | Herbivore |
| Thoughts on 16:13 - Oct 16 by eireblue |
That isn’t how ethical veganism works for some.
As with Muslims, it against their religion to even buy pork for someone else.
Why would you want someone to have to compromise Article 9 of the human rights act.
“.. right to freedom of thought, belief, and religion, allowing individuals to hold and change their beliefs and to manifest them in practice….”
You wouldn’t insist a devout Muslim buy you pork or alcohol.
It’s a non-vegan world, a vegan couple want to spend money on a vegan event for a short period of time on a special day.
As is their human right as it happens.
As would be the case if they were Jewish/Muslim/Buddhist…etc..
If I was invited to a Muslim wedding, I wouldn’t be assuming anyone is trying to convert me to a Muslim, and I wouldn’t insist on bringing alcohol, consuming alcohol, and I definitely wouldn’t be insisting on a Muslim buying me alcohol.
Being polite and respectful at a wedding with restricted food or beverages for a few hours, isn’t the worst thing that will happen to me, I reckon I probably cope pretty well.
The OP can simply decline the invitation. |
In 2025 there are still plenty of times I go somewhere and I'm not catered for as a vegan. It's quite interesting to see the sense of entitlement in some quarters when they might have to experience this for one day. | |
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| Thoughts on 16:20 - Oct 16 with 267 views | giant_stow |
| Thoughts on 16:15 - Oct 16 by Herbivore |
For people who have to avoid fibre, seitan contains basically no fibre so there are options aside from meat. It's one meal. Expecting vegans to compromise their beliefs to provide animal based alternatives is a bit bloody much, plant based food is (generally) very inclusive because (almost) everyone can eat it. |
I'm not sure almost everyone can eat Tofu tbf - I coated it every spice I could find last night, plus tons of salt and pepper, flour and it still tasted like soapy nothingness.
Anyway, that's just a detail. |  |
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| Thoughts on 16:21 - Oct 16 with 262 views | Herbivore |
| Thoughts on 16:20 - Oct 16 by giant_stow |
I'm not sure almost everyone can eat Tofu tbf - I coated it every spice I could find last night, plus tons of salt and pepper, flour and it still tasted like soapy nothingness.
Anyway, that's just a detail. |
Tofu is great, people just don't know how to use it properly. | |
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| Thoughts on 16:27 - Oct 16 with 226 views | J2BLUE |
| Thoughts on 16:13 - Oct 16 by eireblue |
That isn’t how ethical veganism works for some.
As with Muslims, it against their religion to even buy pork for someone else.
Why would you want someone to have to compromise Article 9 of the human rights act.
“.. right to freedom of thought, belief, and religion, allowing individuals to hold and change their beliefs and to manifest them in practice….”
You wouldn’t insist a devout Muslim buy you pork or alcohol.
It’s a non-vegan world, a vegan couple want to spend money on a vegan event for a short period of time on a special day.
As is their human right as it happens.
As would be the case if they were Jewish/Muslim/Buddhist…etc..
If I was invited to a Muslim wedding, I wouldn’t be assuming anyone is trying to convert me to a Muslim, and I wouldn’t insist on bringing alcohol, consuming alcohol, and I definitely wouldn’t be insisting on a Muslim buying me alcohol.
Being polite and respectful at a wedding with restricted food or beverages for a few hours, isn’t the worst thing that will happen to me, I reckon I probably cope pretty well.
The OP can simply decline the invitation. |
Agree with that but do you agree with saying the kids cannot leave the room?
Are they guests or hostages? | |
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