| Who would you get to replace McKenna? 10:48 - Oct 22 with 4222 views | tetchris |
Carrick?
O’Neil? |  | | |  |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 15:59 - Oct 22 with 776 views | blueoutlook |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 14:31 - Oct 22 by JammyDodgerrr |
There is not a single manager, that I think we'd be able to get, that is better than McKenna in my view. We've got to see it through. |
There are some very rose tinted glasses on this site. There are managers other than McKenna out there who could and would do a job. Having only a plan A is crippling us this season as it did last season too. |  | | |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:24 - Oct 22 with 739 views | VanSaParody |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 10:50 - Oct 22 by SamWhiteUK |
I wouldn't get anyone to replace him, and anyone calling for his head needs theirs checking. |
I'm definitely with you there...
However, if the worst was to happen, wouldn't it be hilarious if we got Liam Manning? |  | | |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:26 - Oct 22 with 735 views | blueysbackside |
Gareth Southgate | | | |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:30 - Oct 22 with 725 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:26 - Oct 22 by blueysbackside |
Gareth Southgate |
That would mean even later subs! |  |
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| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:31 - Oct 22 with 728 views | lazyblue |
Move on mate | | | |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:33 - Oct 22 with 715 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 15:59 - Oct 22 by blueoutlook |
There are some very rose tinted glasses on this site. There are managers other than McKenna out there who could and would do a job. Having only a plan A is crippling us this season as it did last season too. |
Please name them. There have been about 100 posts saying this since last night and not a single one names a manager. [Post edited 22 Oct 16:34]
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| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:34 - Oct 22 with 719 views | peterleeblue |
This won't happen because the Toxic minority will drive change if things do not improve but my colours to the mast FWIW. For me Mckenna has until the end of 26/27 to get us back up. Lets be different and give our managers time. Time to show some class.
Two more observations.
1. I very much doubt McKenna is on £5m per annum in the championship. There will be a relegation clause in place.
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2. Ashton is not the new devil incarnate but a hard working Chairman / CEO with the best interests of ITFC. |  | | |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:36 - Oct 22 with 697 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:33 - Oct 22 by JammyDodgerrr |
Please name them. There have been about 100 posts saying this since last night and not a single one names a manager. [Post edited 22 Oct 16:34]
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Why is it upto the fans on a forum to name a potential manager
who ever is suggested would be met by he's not KM so its all rather pointless really isnt it
The facts are he's won 7 in 48 games, now we dont know how the owners feel about it, it doesnt matter what the fans think.
He'll either get time and fine if he does
if he doesn't then it's upto the owners to find a new manager, someone THEY feel would win more than KM has achieved since promotion |  |
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| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:37 - Oct 22 with 692 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:34 - Oct 22 by peterleeblue |
This won't happen because the Toxic minority will drive change if things do not improve but my colours to the mast FWIW. For me Mckenna has until the end of 26/27 to get us back up. Lets be different and give our managers time. Time to show some class.
Two more observations.
1. I very much doubt McKenna is on £5m per annum in the championship. There will be a relegation clause in place.
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2. Ashton is not the new devil incarnate but a hard working Chairman / CEO with the best interests of ITFC. |
Toxic minority? I think this fanbase has been pretty patient over the last 50 games tbf. Can you imagine around the other clubs. Conversations are now happening in the more mainstream of the fanbase of at least the idea of where a tipping point is, which is understandable.
Literally every club would move on if we didn't make the playoffs. It's not "toxic" to question results if that happens tbh.
Ashton has clearly messed up some of the recruitment since promotion.
All that said let's very much hope he can turn it around. | |
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| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:43 - Oct 22 with 677 views | jas0999 |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 10:50 - Oct 22 by SamWhiteUK |
I wouldn't get anyone to replace him, and anyone calling for his head needs theirs checking. |
Disagree. It’s entirely right questioning KMs position. Ten games in and we are nowhere near where we’d want to be. Away form is terrible, just been beaten 3-0 at home to a club in league one last season. Nine straight home losses earlier in the year.
KM can’t continue to get a free pass forever. I’d be most surprised if Ashton isn’t under a bit of pressure now. We can’t overlook KMs huge salary - he needs to justify it and so far he isn’t. | | | |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 17:20 - Oct 22 with 644 views | ottovonbismark |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:37 - Oct 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Toxic minority? I think this fanbase has been pretty patient over the last 50 games tbf. Can you imagine around the other clubs. Conversations are now happening in the more mainstream of the fanbase of at least the idea of where a tipping point is, which is understandable.
Literally every club would move on if we didn't make the playoffs. It's not "toxic" to question results if that happens tbh.
Ashton has clearly messed up some of the recruitment since promotion.
All that said let's very much hope he can turn it around. |
I suspect there is no planning at all for replacing KM at board level, if there was that would indicate awareness of the situation and an attempt to put it right. | | | |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 17:26 - Oct 22 with 632 views | WestSussexBlue |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 14:55 - Oct 22 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Ange ?
As in Ange Postecoglu. That Ange ?
Are you feeling ok. |
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| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 17:31 - Oct 22 with 622 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 17:20 - Oct 22 by ottovonbismark |
I suspect there is no planning at all for replacing KM at board level, if there was that would indicate awareness of the situation and an attempt to put it right. |
I doubt there is anyone wanting to entertain the idea yet. | |
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| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 17:52 - Oct 22 with 595 views | Whos_blue |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:36 - Oct 22 by FrimleyBlue |
Why is it upto the fans on a forum to name a potential manager
who ever is suggested would be met by he's not KM so its all rather pointless really isnt it
The facts are he's won 7 in 48 games, now we dont know how the owners feel about it, it doesnt matter what the fans think.
He'll either get time and fine if he does
if he doesn't then it's upto the owners to find a new manager, someone THEY feel would win more than KM has achieved since promotion |
But isn't that exactly the point Frimmers.
There are hundreds if not thousands of posts where people suggest different formations, different players etc. Why not the manager?
At least the OP has listed two options.
I don't agree with either and remain a happy clapping KM supporter, but to say it's not up to the fans to name a potential replacement is rather baffling.
I'd much rather an intelligent debate about the merits of other managers, rather than some of the nonsense posted here (or particularly the news comments. Jeez. That lot are something else!)
If not KM, who and why?
FWIW. I think if we don't go up this season he goes, which probably feels about for all parties. Not saying I'm advocating it, but everything comes to an end eventually. The end of the season is the time to take stock. |  |
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| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 18:16 - Oct 22 with 549 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 17:52 - Oct 22 by Whos_blue |
But isn't that exactly the point Frimmers.
There are hundreds if not thousands of posts where people suggest different formations, different players etc. Why not the manager?
At least the OP has listed two options.
I don't agree with either and remain a happy clapping KM supporter, but to say it's not up to the fans to name a potential replacement is rather baffling.
I'd much rather an intelligent debate about the merits of other managers, rather than some of the nonsense posted here (or particularly the news comments. Jeez. That lot are something else!)
If not KM, who and why?
FWIW. I think if we don't go up this season he goes, which probably feels about for all parties. Not saying I'm advocating it, but everything comes to an end eventually. The end of the season is the time to take stock. |
Mainly for me because it becomes a bit silly
Like earlier. I mentioned ange if at all it was needed. Laughed off like we are suddenly to go for a manager who only 5 months won the uefa cup.
There of course will be pros and cons to all sorts but I dont think you'll ever reach one where someone else goes yeah that would work. Players are slightly different as you think a manager will just bring out the best in them but picking a manager is harder as the buck stops there if that makes sense. | |
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| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 18:28 - Oct 22 with 540 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 10:53 - Oct 22 by ShortyBlue92 |
There has to be a tipping point tho
We are not there yet, but …… |
We're not even close.
The guy has proven what he can do. It's annoying and we all want quick success but that's not how things generally working when building a new team. Very rare it happens.
Liverpool at the top level are going through it right now and their recruitment on paper has been class.
I have no doubt McKenna will turn his group and any additions in Jan into a top team that can get promotion. Reality is it may be next year. I'm confident second half of the season will be much better though. | |
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| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 18:45 - Oct 22 with 506 views | ITFCSG |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 18:28 - Oct 22 by Nutkins_Return |
We're not even close.
The guy has proven what he can do. It's annoying and we all want quick success but that's not how things generally working when building a new team. Very rare it happens.
Liverpool at the top level are going through it right now and their recruitment on paper has been class.
I have no doubt McKenna will turn his group and any additions in Jan into a top team that can get promotion. Reality is it may be next year. I'm confident second half of the season will be much better though. |
//I have no doubt McKenna will turn his group and any additions in Jan into a top team that can get promotion. Reality is it may be next year. I'm confident second half of the season will be much better though.//
Lots of people were saying the exact same thing this Jan and see how it panned out? | | | |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 19:45 - Oct 22 with 440 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:36 - Oct 22 by FrimleyBlue |
Why is it upto the fans on a forum to name a potential manager
who ever is suggested would be met by he's not KM so its all rather pointless really isnt it
The facts are he's won 7 in 48 games, now we dont know how the owners feel about it, it doesnt matter what the fans think.
He'll either get time and fine if he does
if he doesn't then it's upto the owners to find a new manager, someone THEY feel would win more than KM has achieved since promotion |
Because that post explicitly states there are other managers who could do a better job that we could get? I am following up the point. I have done this on about five posts since last night, where they all say other, better managers are available and I haven't received a single reply with a name.
You can't tout that there are clearly better managers out there, without at least naming who you think they are. [Post edited 22 Oct 19:46]
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| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 19:53 - Oct 22 with 431 views | Whos_blue |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 18:16 - Oct 22 by FrimleyBlue |
Mainly for me because it becomes a bit silly
Like earlier. I mentioned ange if at all it was needed. Laughed off like we are suddenly to go for a manager who only 5 months won the uefa cup.
There of course will be pros and cons to all sorts but I dont think you'll ever reach one where someone else goes yeah that would work. Players are slightly different as you think a manager will just bring out the best in them but picking a manager is harder as the buck stops there if that makes sense. |
That's fair enough, but as JD has also replied, without naming suggestions and just saying he has to go (which you haven't suggested btw) seems pointless.
I think it's either put up or shut up. | |
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| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 20:00 - Oct 22 with 417 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 19:45 - Oct 22 by JammyDodgerrr |
Because that post explicitly states there are other managers who could do a better job that we could get? I am following up the point. I have done this on about five posts since last night, where they all say other, better managers are available and I haven't received a single reply with a name.
You can't tout that there are clearly better managers out there, without at least naming who you think they are. [Post edited 22 Oct 19:46]
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Thing is we don't know how good km is. We know what he achieved but that's been done before and he gets credit for it. But there are other managers who have result wise been better than him in the past 18 months. So yes there are at present better managers out there.
Most of it depends too what the owners target is. If it's promotion only this season then he'd be gone by Xmas if we aren't close. However if he's allowed time then he'll get that time. | |
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| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 20:15 - Oct 22 with 398 views | HighgateBlue |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 18:28 - Oct 22 by Nutkins_Return |
We're not even close.
The guy has proven what he can do. It's annoying and we all want quick success but that's not how things generally working when building a new team. Very rare it happens.
Liverpool at the top level are going through it right now and their recruitment on paper has been class.
I have no doubt McKenna will turn his group and any additions in Jan into a top team that can get promotion. Reality is it may be next year. I'm confident second half of the season will be much better though. |
In fairness, it's the fact we've gone backwards over an extended period - 18 months. If he had been appointed in the summer and had lots of money or no money, it wouldn't be justified to call for his head.
So it's not about expecting instant gratification.
He's made a lot of very active decisions, many of them ones which were not even forced upon him as questions to answer. He's spent more money than we could even have dreamed of.
2 points from our 5 games against top half clubs. 5 shots on target from 30 last night. And that's before you even get started on where the defence is. In my opinion, our wins against Sheff Utd, Norwich and Portsmouth, all pretty poor sides, are papering over some very serious cracks.
We had a team that succeeded in this division. And part of the reason why was Kieran, no question. But he has chosen to dismantle that side, and he would get much of the glory if the gamble paid off. There may come a point where the board have to decide if it has paid off or not. Make no mistake - the parachute payment clock is ticking. Norwich's travails show us what can await if we fail to go up during our parachute party. I do not want to have to sell them our most creative midfielder in 2 years' time. If we have one. |  | | |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 21:23 - Oct 22 with 328 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 20:00 - Oct 22 by FrimleyBlue |
Thing is we don't know how good km is. We know what he achieved but that's been done before and he gets credit for it. But there are other managers who have result wise been better than him in the past 18 months. So yes there are at present better managers out there.
Most of it depends too what the owners target is. If it's promotion only this season then he'd be gone by Xmas if we aren't close. However if he's allowed time then he'll get that time. |
Is this the question of this thread not who we would replace him with? Not, is there any better managers out there?
I don't see any managers we could realistically get who would be better than him. | |
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| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 21:32 - Oct 22 with 311 views | billlm |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 16:33 - Oct 22 by JammyDodgerrr |
Please name them. There have been about 100 posts saying this since last night and not a single one names a manager. [Post edited 22 Oct 16:34]
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I'd go for the ex was manager who's no at a Spanish club corboda I think is his name but someone will put me right if we're paying our manager that much we could get him, |  | | |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 23:27 - Oct 22 with 241 views | Whos_blue |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 15:55 - Oct 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Of course there is, people are deluded if they think there is not. We have the most expensive Champ squad ever assembled pretty much so top 2 would be the expectation. I don't expect them to do anything unless we are a way off the playoffs which is basically impossible in this league.
I don't think he would be coming back next year if we are outside the top 6, things would have turned bad by then anyway.
Ipswich fans have had two decades of misery and two seasons of pure joy with McKenna at the helm, so there is that huge emotional attachment from stuff a few years ago. However, if truth be told, at other clubs he would already be under the spotlight more than here with the way 2025 has gone. Ashton and McKenna are also very much linked, even if we are hanging around mid table at Christmas I don't really see it. We'd just be a few wins off the top 6.
My Spurs supporting mate was asking me the other week in a bar in LA how much pressure he is under (that was the night before Norwich ) and I laughed but I imagine the perception outside Ipswich is quite different about him as a coach at the moment. [Post edited 22 Oct 16:00]
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But not being like other clubs is one of the things I love about this club 4J.
The managerial merry go round we see time and time again is rediculous.
I'm sure others will have a different opinion, but the time given to our managers is one of the things I'm most proud of.
The season hasn't taken off as we'd all have liked and given the expectations on the team, it's inevitable some of us will have the jitters. But the suggestion of some that it's time to pull the lever seem very premature.
FWIW, I'll assess my thoughts on KM at the end of the season. | |
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| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 23:34 - Oct 22 with 235 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Who would you get to replace McKenna? on 14:17 - Oct 22 by FrimleyBlue |
each to their own, but we've lost most of the players he wanted to keep, so........ |
Who did he want to keep. |  | | |
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