| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ 16:03 - Oct 25 with 14592 views | MrPotatoHead |
Today. Surprised to read that, not sure what was difficult about it unless I’m missing something? |  | | |  |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 17:53 - Oct 26 with 1311 views | bluelagos |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 17:29 - Oct 26 by Cheltenham_Blue |
What did the Wolves faithful do? |
Clips on social media at the final whistle of fans confronting players and manager at the front of the South stand.
Only verbals, but clearly a lot of anger being directed at the players and management. |  |
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| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 18:06 - Oct 26 with 1252 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 17:53 - Oct 26 by bluelagos |
Clips on social media at the final whistle of fans confronting players and manager at the front of the South stand.
Only verbals, but clearly a lot of anger being directed at the players and management. |
They have a history of similar. I was working there for McCarthy's last game in charge.
They got tonked 0-5 at home to West Brom, but a lot of the abuse toward McCarthy and the players started at 0-0. If I recall the players entrance was surrounded by fans after the final whistle and the staff car park was effectively blocked. |  |
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| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 18:54 - Oct 26 with 1150 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 16:58 - Oct 26 by Ryorry |
That's informative and seems a well-balanced, measured post to one who wasn't there.
Going by 5live's reporting from Molineux at ft this afty, maybe KM and our players should count their blessings! |
Saw an away blog WBA fans were getting after their team at FT yesterday and their expectations would have been different coming into this season than us.
Getting on players backs or sarcastic cheers during the game is very unhelpful but if we are being honest it’s been a pretty bad start to the season. I just never agree with it during the game when you should be supporting the side. |  |
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| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 19:20 - Oct 26 with 1100 views | SWLondonBlue93 |
I don't see the point in getting on the backs of individuals or sarcastically cheering, that doesn't achieve anything, but what we're talking about here is very mild in the scheme of things. As others have said, our fanbase is generally placid and the atmosphere over the last year and a bit would have been worse at most other clubs. I also think McKenna isn't naive to this, which makes his wording a bit odd to me. |  | | |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 20:05 - Oct 26 with 1002 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 18:06 - Oct 26 by Cheltenham_Blue |
They have a history of similar. I was working there for McCarthy's last game in charge.
They got tonked 0-5 at home to West Brom, but a lot of the abuse toward McCarthy and the players started at 0-0. If I recall the players entrance was surrounded by fans after the final whistle and the staff car park was effectively blocked. |
There is absolutely no comparing Ipswich's fanbase to the likes of Wolves, Leeds, Newcastle's of the world. Midlands clubs are particularly bad for constant negativity and getting on the managers and players backs with Wolves being a classic example.
I would like to see McKenna be a bit more circumspect before calling out the fans again because he's been well supported by fans and even despite losing week after week in the PL there was no suggestion of anyone turning, which would certainly have been the case within an element of the fanbase in many other less patient clubs (wrongly so, but it how the world is these days). |  | | |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 20:26 - Oct 26 with 967 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 20:05 - Oct 26 by BouncebackIpswich |
There is absolutely no comparing Ipswich's fanbase to the likes of Wolves, Leeds, Newcastle's of the world. Midlands clubs are particularly bad for constant negativity and getting on the managers and players backs with Wolves being a classic example.
I would like to see McKenna be a bit more circumspect before calling out the fans again because he's been well supported by fans and even despite losing week after week in the PL there was no suggestion of anyone turning, which would certainly have been the case within an element of the fanbase in many other less patient clubs (wrongly so, but it how the world is these days). |
"There is absolutely no comparing Ipswich's fanbase to the likes of Wolves, Leeds, Newcastle's of the world"
Where has anyone done that? | |
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| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 20:28 - Oct 26 with 946 views | waveneyblue |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 20:26 - Oct 26 by Cheltenham_Blue |
"There is absolutely no comparing Ipswich's fanbase to the likes of Wolves, Leeds, Newcastle's of the world"
Where has anyone done that? |
Yeah but that rotter McKenna... etc |  | | |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 20:28 - Oct 26 with 960 views | Herbivore |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 20:26 - Oct 26 by Cheltenham_Blue |
"There is absolutely no comparing Ipswich's fanbase to the likes of Wolves, Leeds, Newcastle's of the world"
Where has anyone done that? |
He's just listing some of the sides he supports. |  |
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| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 21:19 - Oct 26 with 877 views | PhilTWTD |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 17:53 - Oct 26 by Kieran_Knows |
I called them industrial yesterday, and that was being very generous. |
Supremely unambitious. Christian Walton can hardly have had a quieter game. |  | | |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 07:51 - Oct 27 with 679 views | DJR |
Wise words, as always, from Stuart Watson.
"This was the flattest atmosphere I've felt inside Portman Road for quite some time.
Lunchtime kick-offs never help. A big part of it, however, I think was the hangover from that second half collapse against Charlton. There was a sense of the crowd waiting for the team to win them back over. I get that. To a point.
Town, for me, had done enough to get people back onside with a composed, controlled start to the game that, as mentioned, had flashes of excitement. Philogene twice tested the keeper, flashed a cross just past Szmodics and was perhaps unfortunate not have won a penalty after nutmegging Nat Phillips.
Still, the crowd remained in a soporific state. When Taylor slid in to win a throw-in high left soon after the restart he wheeled his arms to try and lift everybody. Instead, come the 58th minute, some annoyance was voiced when Hirst, who'd produced some neat link play up until that point, produced a loose touch.
When McKenna made a triple change in the 76th minute it was met by some sarcastic cheers. The suggestion was that he'd left it too late. The Blues boss, quite rightly, pointed out afterwards that, because both Szmodics and Akpom had already gone off injured, he only had one of his three permitted substitution windows left and had to think carefully about when he used it due to the risk of someone else going off and his side being left down to 10 men.
In his various post-match interviews, the Blues boss made reference to a 'really, really difficult atmosphere'. That's irked some, but I think the softly made point should be received as constructive feedback. McKenna doesn't say these things lightly. I remember similar sentiments being expressed after a 0-0 home draw against QPR back in December 2023. That was fair then and I think it's fair now.
Had some come arrived at the ground with a bit of a negative mindset? Possibly. That's disappointing if so. The boos were deserved in midweek, but each game is a reset. If we're asking for the players to run towards adversity, then supporters also have to do that too." [Post edited 27 Oct 7:52]
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| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 08:02 - Oct 27 with 665 views | Herbivore |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 07:51 - Oct 27 by DJR |
Wise words, as always, from Stuart Watson.
"This was the flattest atmosphere I've felt inside Portman Road for quite some time.
Lunchtime kick-offs never help. A big part of it, however, I think was the hangover from that second half collapse against Charlton. There was a sense of the crowd waiting for the team to win them back over. I get that. To a point.
Town, for me, had done enough to get people back onside with a composed, controlled start to the game that, as mentioned, had flashes of excitement. Philogene twice tested the keeper, flashed a cross just past Szmodics and was perhaps unfortunate not have won a penalty after nutmegging Nat Phillips.
Still, the crowd remained in a soporific state. When Taylor slid in to win a throw-in high left soon after the restart he wheeled his arms to try and lift everybody. Instead, come the 58th minute, some annoyance was voiced when Hirst, who'd produced some neat link play up until that point, produced a loose touch.
When McKenna made a triple change in the 76th minute it was met by some sarcastic cheers. The suggestion was that he'd left it too late. The Blues boss, quite rightly, pointed out afterwards that, because both Szmodics and Akpom had already gone off injured, he only had one of his three permitted substitution windows left and had to think carefully about when he used it due to the risk of someone else going off and his side being left down to 10 men.
In his various post-match interviews, the Blues boss made reference to a 'really, really difficult atmosphere'. That's irked some, but I think the softly made point should be received as constructive feedback. McKenna doesn't say these things lightly. I remember similar sentiments being expressed after a 0-0 home draw against QPR back in December 2023. That was fair then and I think it's fair now.
Had some come arrived at the ground with a bit of a negative mindset? Possibly. That's disappointing if so. The boos were deserved in midweek, but each game is a reset. If we're asking for the players to run towards adversity, then supporters also have to do that too." [Post edited 27 Oct 7:52]
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Even in 2023/24 there were times that the atmosphere felt flat or edgy. The Boro game towards the end of the season when we were getting close to promotion I remember it being particulalry flat, the spell from Christmas to February when we were struggling a bit there were a few flat atmospheres as well. We're not the easiest fans to get going. As I mentioned the other day, around where I stand in the lower north it's mainly old boys who stand there with their hands in their pockets for 90 minutes making zero noise aside from the odd tut at the few people that do make noise. When that's what it's like in what is traditionally your noisy stand, it's not a recipe for a good atmosphere.
People can do what they want, obviously, but I find it hard to grasp the mentality of wanting to be in the lower north but not wanting to sing or make any noise whatsoever. In some cases, they even seem offended by the noise. Retire to the Cobbold or the west stand or at least move to the upper north. When I no longer have a desire to sing at the game, I'll be moving to somewhere with a better view for sure. | |
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| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 08:22 - Oct 27 with 633 views | Reuser_is_God |
I don’t think the atmosphere was any different from any other lunch time kick off to be honest.
I didn’t hear any of the sarcastic jeering that has been referenced by others when the subs were made, for me it was more of a “come on here we go” sort of thing knowing how often we score goals once those changes have been made.
I thought the crowd was actually just desperate for us to win rather than being particularly difficult.
When McKenna stormed off at the end my initial thought was that he was pee’d off with Jack Clarke for not finishing the game when he had the chances too. |  |
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| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 08:47 - Oct 27 with 576 views | DJR |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 08:02 - Oct 27 by Herbivore |
Even in 2023/24 there were times that the atmosphere felt flat or edgy. The Boro game towards the end of the season when we were getting close to promotion I remember it being particulalry flat, the spell from Christmas to February when we were struggling a bit there were a few flat atmospheres as well. We're not the easiest fans to get going. As I mentioned the other day, around where I stand in the lower north it's mainly old boys who stand there with their hands in their pockets for 90 minutes making zero noise aside from the odd tut at the few people that do make noise. When that's what it's like in what is traditionally your noisy stand, it's not a recipe for a good atmosphere.
People can do what they want, obviously, but I find it hard to grasp the mentality of wanting to be in the lower north but not wanting to sing or make any noise whatsoever. In some cases, they even seem offended by the noise. Retire to the Cobbold or the west stand or at least move to the upper north. When I no longer have a desire to sing at the game, I'll be moving to somewhere with a better view for sure. |
The four of us were sat in SBR lower when Blue Action tried to take over the section.
It was all a bit boisterous for us, so we happily gave up our seats early in the season and moved to SBR upper, so that more enthusiastic supporters could take our place.
There was a period of time after Blue Action had moved to the East stand when SBR lower would initiate songs but these days they don't seem to do that or even join in with Blue Action during many game.
For my own part, I'll always join in songs but obviously won't if no one around is singing. | | | |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 09:12 - Oct 27 with 546 views | WeWereZombies |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 13:42 - Oct 26 by mrshallisfit |
He called the fans Zombies. |
Oh, I would never have realised... |  |
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| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 09:22 - Oct 27 with 518 views | Blue_Moses |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 18:27 - Oct 25 by stonojnr |
The daft thing is its probably the first game since the noisy mob moved to Block A, that ive heard the NSL start a chant, and tried multiple times, and it wasn't based on anything other than trying to get the team going in the 2nd half, there was a real effort of get behind the team going, and it was heard in the south stand at least.
So I found his comments surprising.
But I think it highlights how bad the crowd acoustics between the stands is, the wind was blowing West to East, so all of a blocks noise never made McKennas ears. |
I sit behind the goal in the lower North and we sing all game | | | |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 09:25 - Oct 27 with 501 views | Blue_Moses |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 19:11 - Oct 25 by farkenhell |
I get the frustration and we all want the same thing. But it's how you go about it that distinguishes between those with balance and the idiots. I don't know how anyone, even those with half a brain, could believe that the team would improve by cheering a player's substitution. It's beyond thoughtless. |
I was cheering Azon coming on, not Hirst going off. It's possible others were doing the same | | | |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 09:35 - Oct 27 with 460 views | Blue_Moses |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 20:33 - Oct 25 by Ryorry |
I’d say all of that, even the colder temperatures playing a small part maybe - I find I just don’t have the same energy outside when it’s cold in autumn, despite it being bright and sunny.
Not so much a thing in real winter when you expect it, it’s this transition/adjustment period from summer warmth that’s an issue. Maybe related to the aging crowd! |
I was in shorts and tshirt Saturday, it was very warm in the Lower North | | | |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 10:09 - Oct 27 with 383 views | Smoresy |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 09:22 - Oct 27 by Blue_Moses |
I sit behind the goal in the lower North and we sing all game |
I see pockets of life from my view in the Cobbold but you're very outnumbered, and for very large periods of the game at that. Perhaps a bigger acoustic problem is for you to be able to hear those other pockets, thereby allowing you to unify and project one louder sound, which would in turn rally a few more troops. The biggest problem by far though is simply how outnumbered you are.
For when something suitably dramatic occurs to rally most of the lower North, acoustics don't prevent us from hearing you, much as I know they could be better. It just needs two thousand with the same mindset as you Moses, rather than a far-flung two hundred. | | | |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 10:14 - Oct 27 with 370 views | farkenhell |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 09:12 - Oct 27 by WeWereZombies |
Oh, I would never have realised... |
You little tinker! | | | |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 10:43 - Oct 27 with 308 views | PhilTWTD |
| McKenna referenced a ‘really, really difficult atmosphere’ on 08:22 - Oct 27 by Reuser_is_God |
I don’t think the atmosphere was any different from any other lunch time kick off to be honest.
I didn’t hear any of the sarcastic jeering that has been referenced by others when the subs were made, for me it was more of a “come on here we go” sort of thing knowing how often we score goals once those changes have been made.
I thought the crowd was actually just desperate for us to win rather than being particularly difficult.
When McKenna stormed off at the end my initial thought was that he was pee’d off with Jack Clarke for not finishing the game when he had the chances too. |
Have to say I also didn't really notice the atmosphere being unusually flat, certainly it was flatter last season in a number of games, for obvious reasons.
I thought the sarcastic cheers re the subs was relatively muted from where I was and assumed Kieran was referring to the mood being a bit impatient, bad passes getting a negative reaction occasionally etc, and the potential for the crowd to turn in the wake of Tuesday's game, making things a bit nervy. | | | |
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