| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave 09:14 - Oct 29 with 3396 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
11 games played, 1 game in hand, 7 points off 3rd place. Team starting to develop nice partnerships across a much changed squad.
But, you know, if someone has actually found that shop that sells the moon on a stick, let me know where it is and I'll join your club. |  |
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| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:21 - Oct 29 with 2546 views | DarkBrandon |
I agree.
You'd think the history of this club would have taught people about how "lets get rid of this guy at and get someone else in" rarely improves things. |  | | |
| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:24 - Oct 29 with 2518 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:21 - Oct 29 by DarkBrandon |
I agree.
You'd think the history of this club would have taught people about how "lets get rid of this guy at and get someone else in" rarely improves things. |
Whilst true
we did also get rid of one to get KM in... |  |
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| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:26 - Oct 29 with 2507 views | SomethingBlue |
Yes, not a great start but nothing like the disaster painted in many places – with a large amount of scope & evidence to suggest we will take a stride up the table pretty quickly. Led by our best manager in decades, who still has plenty of room to grow & learn and is an absolute credit to the club and town in every imaginable element. I think it's just modern society. |  |
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| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:28 - Oct 29 with 2472 views | Hackneyblueboy |
| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:26 - Oct 29 by SomethingBlue |
Yes, not a great start but nothing like the disaster painted in many places – with a large amount of scope & evidence to suggest we will take a stride up the table pretty quickly. Led by our best manager in decades, who still has plenty of room to grow & learn and is an absolute credit to the club and town in every imaginable element. I think it's just modern society. |
Any views on the likelihood of KM going to Celtic? | | | |
| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:30 - Oct 29 with 2454 views | DarkBrandon |
| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:24 - Oct 29 by FrimleyBlue |
Whilst true
we did also get rid of one to get KM in... |
And before that was sacking McGiven to get Burley in? Or maybe more fairly Jewell to get Mick in.
But neither had overseen two promotions and a revolution in the club, was clearly an outstanding coach, was coveted by PL chairmen and created sides that at their best produced glorious football. | | | |
| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:30 - Oct 29 with 2442 views | MattinLondon |
On the surface there does seem to be a lot of negativity and bizarre takes on wanting KM to leave - but when you actually look at who is doing that it’s not that bad. I’d say 80% of the idiotic takes on KM etc are from accounts who post once every ten months in a strange desire to wind people up. And most of the remaining are from the usual posters.
I think the vast majority of sensible people want KM to stay - but will ask more questions come December. [Post edited 29 Oct 9:37]
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| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:32 - Oct 29 with 2421 views | FrimleyBlue |
Are there many that 'want' him to leave?
Ill be happy if he stays
i won't be upset if he goes as it'll mean he wants to leave, so that's fine we just need to be sensible with the next hiring and with all the off field stuff going on, we would be an attractive club to many managers. | |
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| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:33 - Oct 29 with 2415 views | jasondozzell |
They are either mad or fickle glory hunters who think a tougher spell in football is an affront somehow.
People don't realise what they've got until it's gone
He's one of the most exciting young coaches in world football.
Praying he stays. |  | | |
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| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:33 - Oct 29 with 2413 views | SomethingBlue |
| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:28 - Oct 29 by Hackneyblueboy |
Any views on the likelihood of KM going to Celtic? |
Well they're definitely interested. Personal view is that it'd be a very tough deal for them to do and that, where KM is concerned, it's a really, really difficult gig for anyone to take in mid-season. Huge ship to turn around and you don't really get any free hits up there. Timing feels wrong. | |
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| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:50 - Oct 29 with 2231 views | Everydayblue |
Think some are just managing their own disappointment, in the event KM does go..
Not seen anyone actually willing KM to go..
More, discussing our options , should he go.
I'd like to think that this Celtic link, is just a strong link.
KM will be high on anyone's wish list.
Pretty sure that he'd feel t there is unfinished business here, atm.
That's just my gut. | | | |
| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:52 - Oct 29 with 2203 views | BlueBlood90 |
I haven't seen one person who wants him to leave. Unless you mean Darkhorse? |  |
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| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:52 - Oct 29 with 2201 views | Ftnfwest |
| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:33 - Oct 29 by SomethingBlue |
Well they're definitely interested. Personal view is that it'd be a very tough deal for them to do and that, where KM is concerned, it's a really, really difficult gig for anyone to take in mid-season. Huge ship to turn around and you don't really get any free hits up there. Timing feels wrong. |
tbh if they had the money rangers would make more sense, barring administration they're as low as they can get atm and expectations equally low. For the last few years winning everything domestically is expected at celtic plus at least making a bit of a fist of it in europe every season. |  | | |
| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:55 - Oct 29 with 2180 views | Guthrum |
It's partly subscribing to the Modern Football fallacy that spending loads of money should equal instant success and that only the Manager can be holding the team back. |  |
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| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:59 - Oct 29 with 2148 views | Ryorry |
And I’m genuinely shocked at the number of educated people who still say “amount of people” instead of “number of” … 
We’re not quantities of sugar or coffee, we’re individuals who can be counted! |  |
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| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 10:04 - Oct 29 with 2106 views | Benters |
| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:52 - Oct 29 by BlueBlood90 |
I haven't seen one person who wants him to leave. Unless you mean Darkhorse? |
Is that what he said what all the fuss is about ? |  |
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| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 10:05 - Oct 29 with 2087 views | IP1Blue |
I don’t think many want him to leave. Would want to think the large majority want him to stay.
I just think a lot of people wouldn’t be surprised if it were to happen this time. | | | |
| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 10:07 - Oct 29 with 2056 views | HighgateBlue |
| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 09:55 - Oct 29 by Guthrum |
It's partly subscribing to the Modern Football fallacy that spending loads of money should equal instant success and that only the Manager can be holding the team back. |
Quite a decent metric for the performance of a manager is where they finish in the league table compared with what their budget is.
That's a fair way to judge McKenna, especially given that there is seemingly a supportive and happy camp in the upper echelons of the club structure, and given that he's been at the club a few years now. If he throws babies out with bathwater, that is his choice. This is not the start of his tenure, and expecting us to perform near to how we did last time round in the Championship is not unreasonable. To expect that is not to expect anything "instant" at all. Only 1 manager in the championship has been with his club longer, and only 6 in the whole EFL.
I appreciate I say where they "finish" in the league, and 11 games in is nowhere near the finish. He does not deserve to be judged yet, unless he voluntarily brings the curtain down himself. But there's no getting away from the fact that we've gone backwards in 18 months having spent an eye-watering quantity of money.
I don't think that Kieran is holding us back, certainly not. But for me if he were to leave today, his tenure would very much have been a game of two halves (Greavesie). The first half was a marvellous success, the second, a disappointment.
If he stays, he can still turn it round, and I very much hope he does. If he goes, a well-appointed successor would doubtless make some changes in the approach on the field, and I don't see why there wouldn't be a similar chance of succeeding. |  | | |
| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 10:29 - Oct 29 with 1840 views | ArnieM |
| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 10:07 - Oct 29 by HighgateBlue |
Quite a decent metric for the performance of a manager is where they finish in the league table compared with what their budget is.
That's a fair way to judge McKenna, especially given that there is seemingly a supportive and happy camp in the upper echelons of the club structure, and given that he's been at the club a few years now. If he throws babies out with bathwater, that is his choice. This is not the start of his tenure, and expecting us to perform near to how we did last time round in the Championship is not unreasonable. To expect that is not to expect anything "instant" at all. Only 1 manager in the championship has been with his club longer, and only 6 in the whole EFL.
I appreciate I say where they "finish" in the league, and 11 games in is nowhere near the finish. He does not deserve to be judged yet, unless he voluntarily brings the curtain down himself. But there's no getting away from the fact that we've gone backwards in 18 months having spent an eye-watering quantity of money.
I don't think that Kieran is holding us back, certainly not. But for me if he were to leave today, his tenure would very much have been a game of two halves (Greavesie). The first half was a marvellous success, the second, a disappointment.
If he stays, he can still turn it round, and I very much hope he does. If he goes, a well-appointed successor would doubtless make some changes in the approach on the field, and I don't see why there wouldn't be a similar chance of succeeding. |
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| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 10:35 - Oct 29 with 1801 views | NthQldITFC |
Bear in mind that some are trolls, new or sleeper accounts on here for example. Some are genuine, sure, but I'd say that absolutely no-one whose footballing opinions I have any respect for, on here or elsewhere, is thinking along those lines. |  |
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| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 10:38 - Oct 29 with 1753 views | Blue_Moses |
How many people have said they want him to go out of our roughly 28,000 fan bas (based on home games, I know we have more fans than that).
I've seen a few people on here say it but for it to be genuinely shocking I would have to say the number would need to be at least 2,800 | | | |
| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 10:59 - Oct 29 with 1604 views | JeremiahBrown |
Players come here because of McKenna. If he goes, so will his team of staff and possibly some of the players.
A new manager would mean that the players would have to learn a new system and could result in us joining Norwich at the bottom. | | | |
| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 11:09 - Oct 29 with 1533 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 10:59 - Oct 29 by JeremiahBrown |
Players come here because of McKenna. If he goes, so will his team of staff and possibly some of the players.
A new manager would mean that the players would have to learn a new system and could result in us joining Norwich at the bottom. |
All depends on who we brought in
Apart from Young and maybe Williams prior, we haven't really signed any players who had an affiliation with KM. The project is an exciting one and the type of manager KM helps when selling the club to players, but there's nothing to suggest the next manager who ever or whenever that is, wouldn't be able to do the same. ( In regards to signing players not what KM has achieved )
IF it's going to happen, it kinda needs to happen this time around, rather than end of season as IF we don't go up, we don't really want to be going through a transition come the summer when we'd want to hit the 26/27 season straight away. [Post edited 29 Oct 11:13]
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| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 11:42 - Oct 29 with 1419 views | Whos_blue |
| I'm genuinely shocked at the amount of people who seem to want KMc to leave on 11:09 - Oct 29 by FrimleyBlue |
All depends on who we brought in
Apart from Young and maybe Williams prior, we haven't really signed any players who had an affiliation with KM. The project is an exciting one and the type of manager KM helps when selling the club to players, but there's nothing to suggest the next manager who ever or whenever that is, wouldn't be able to do the same. ( In regards to signing players not what KM has achieved )
IF it's going to happen, it kinda needs to happen this time around, rather than end of season as IF we don't go up, we don't really want to be going through a transition come the summer when we'd want to hit the 26/27 season straight away. [Post edited 29 Oct 11:13]
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Respectfully disagree Frimmers.
I don't want to see any change here until the end of the season at the earliest.
If it's not working out by then Ashton and co will already have other irons in the fire.
Despite the thoughts of some on here, they generally have a.good hand on most things.
And to comment on the OP. Whilst very few have explicitly said they want KM to go, it's undeniable there is a developing undercurrent of doubt over KM.
Ridiculous in my opinion, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion even if I think it is wildly premature and painfully myopic.
We're teetering dangerously close to BCWYWF part 2.
Edit: I should also have said that after the recent jeering and sarcastic applauding I wouldn't blame KM for moving on.
Some of our fans don't deserve this amazing club. [Post edited 29 Oct 11:44]
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