| Hate 09:03 - Oct 30 with 9973 views | darkhorse28 |
I’ll take a knee and some time off the site. Maybe forever. Almost certainly forever.
I’ve supported the club for 45 years. Man and boy. But don’t want my opinions to spoil the enjoyment of others on the forum. Phil does an amazing job and don’t want to put him in a difficult position either.., it’s hard enough on here.
I will say the bullying, the hate, and the ‘one view or be destroyed’ tribalism on here at times is frankly pathetic…, the same people complaining about online hate, desperate to indulge in online hate. It’s interesting.
Their egos not capable of processing they could be wrong about McKenna, and don’t worry, you don’t know who you are, because there’s almost zero self awareness.
I only stated my opinion, based on facts…, I’ve a huge amount of time for KM, less so Mark Ashton, and KM sadly in context is the architect of his own downfall.
You can’t leverage so much investment, deliver so little with it, and still be a young manager needing patience, sadly, that’s not how football works today. We aren’t good relative to our investment, that’s doesn’t seem like conjecture anymore. Results sadly don’t lie. But the messenger has to be destroyed, it’s predictable, easier for many than dealing with the facts in front of us.
To those desperate to create an echo chamber…, with no alternative voices, that feels warm, safe, comforting, and makes you feel good about what may or may not be true.
You win.
Fingers crossed for promotion, I’d like new owners with real football oversight, that’s where the issues really are, we deserve to be established in the premier league, and I’ll never apologise for wanting that. I don’t see us as league one, I never will, we (almost) never have been. We DO deserve people not to hide behind that brief period, like it’s a shield to scrutiny.
And to my ‘many’ haters, good luck.
You won’t get the right answers by never listening, or exploring alternative views.
But ignorance is bliss…, you might be in a happy place.., and maybe that’s all that counts.., so enjoy that and good luck. And I hope you’re all right about Ashton being world class, I really do, that would be amazing.
UPPA TOWN
Right .., Ian Marshall Wig, check, Romeo Zondernan Fisons shirt and a copy of Mick Mcgivens guide to defensive shape …, and they said pretending to be an Ipswich fan would be cheap. Pfft.
Enjoy the ride chaps.
When I buy the club…, none of you will be banned, but some will be made to watch Mark Ashton play 5 aside in his Cyril Regis shirt.., just saying. [Post edited 30 Oct 9:04]
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| Hate on 09:08 - Oct 30 with 5260 views | darkhorse28 |
Almost forgot.
I’m Darkhorse28 .., maybe there’s a Darkhorse who’s the unpopular one.., I could come back.., it’s just a mistake.., ‘so there’s a chance’.
Although I wouldn’t be any to be part of a tribe that acts like ‘lord of the flies’ eats its own, and throws him under the bus either, not a great place.
I do accept my failings too though…, I vent rather to an engage very often, too often, so no blame, I do me, and take responsibility for that, and do apologise not for any comments, they are genuine and from the heart, and every single word meant…, but for lack of engagement where it’s offered.
I don’t really know how the board works very well and found that difficult to manage at times.., but I did want to engage more and not just rant.., awkward timing with results etc.
Ok anyway…, if there’s a darkhorse27 after QPR
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| Hate on 09:11 - Oct 30 with 5220 views | trncbluearmy |
Whilst not in the ban brigade here lies your problem
"I only stated my opinion, based on facts…," |  | | |
| Hate on 09:15 - Oct 30 with 5113 views | BlueBadger |
Fair play, you've got a load of tennis balls to be writing on ahead of the big protest at the weekend. |  |
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| Hate on 09:17 - Oct 30 with 5089 views | Keno |
| Hate on 09:15 - Oct 30 by BlueBadger |
Fair play, you've got a load of tennis balls to be writing on ahead of the big protest at the weekend. |
As opposed to writing loads of balls on here |  |
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| The longest “goodbye” ever…. on 09:18 - Oct 30 with 5078 views | Bloots |
….followed up 5 minutes later with “I might come back”.
Well played. |  |
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| Hate on 09:19 - Oct 30 with 5062 views | Chris_ITFC |
“I only stated my opinion, based on facts.”
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| Hate on 09:20 - Oct 30 with 5029 views | usm |
I rarely post these days - its just not worth the attacks that come your way especially if you happen to state an opinion that differs to some others 😱 |  |
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| Hate on 09:26 - Oct 30 with 4904 views | Bluemike31 |
As a relatively new regular poster on here I will say one thing,
the ‘one view or be destroyed’ comment is actually pretty true from my early observations, people have to be allowed to question Mckenna if they choose without fear of the "pack" descending on them. | | | |
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| The longest “goodbye” ever…. on 09:27 - Oct 30 with 4860 views | Steve_M |
| The longest “goodbye” ever…. on 09:18 - Oct 30 by Bloots |
….followed up 5 minutes later with “I might come back”.
Well played. |
Bulbecktastic. |  |
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| Hate on 09:28 - Oct 30 with 4837 views | homer_123 |
| Hate on 09:20 - Oct 30 by usm |
I rarely post these days - its just not worth the attacks that come your way especially if you happen to state an opinion that differs to some others 😱 |
I think, like anything, it depends on how you position your viewpoint.
EDIT: shame you are choosing not to post BTW. [Post edited 30 Oct 9:28]
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| Hate on 09:31 - Oct 30 with 4778 views | giant_stow |
Ive not been following this mini saga - in house business, not for me, but this line stoud out:
"I will say the bullying, the hate, and the ‘one view or be destroyed’ tribalism on here at times is frankly pathetic…, the same people complaining about online hate, desperate to indulge in online hate. It’s interesting."
No idea if its fair, but could be food for thought.... [Post edited 30 Oct 9:32]
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| The longest “goodbye” ever…. on 09:33 - Oct 30 with 4745 views | giant_stow |
| The longest “goodbye” ever…. on 09:27 - Oct 30 by Steve_M |
Bulbecktastic. |
Bulbeck?!! No way! | |
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| Hate on 09:36 - Oct 30 with 4686 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Hate on 09:26 - Oct 30 by Bluemike31 |
As a relatively new regular poster on here I will say one thing,
the ‘one view or be destroyed’ comment is actually pretty true from my early observations, people have to be allowed to question Mckenna if they choose without fear of the "pack" descending on them. |
There’s no problem in questioning McKenna or Ashton. They have been critical of themselves even, stating that the recruitment wasn’t right and needs a big upgrade (for example). KM’s got some learning to do still to get team up to speed, as we’re off target so far.
It’s the method of delivery and obsessive, seemingly vindictive manner of posting that seems to wind people up. Although yes, I agree people do get defensive around any criticism and there can be group think on here, but I don’t think that’s the main issue in this particular case (in my opinion anyway, for what it’s worth) |  |
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| Hate on 09:39 - Oct 30 with 4659 views | Herbivore |
| Hate on 09:36 - Oct 30 by Swansea_Blue |
There’s no problem in questioning McKenna or Ashton. They have been critical of themselves even, stating that the recruitment wasn’t right and needs a big upgrade (for example). KM’s got some learning to do still to get team up to speed, as we’re off target so far.
It’s the method of delivery and obsessive, seemingly vindictive manner of posting that seems to wind people up. Although yes, I agree people do get defensive around any criticism and there can be group think on here, but I don’t think that’s the main issue in this particular case (in my opinion anyway, for what it’s worth) |
It does rather seem like those who are most vociferous in their criticism of McKenna, Ashton, the club in general are also the most sensitive to having their views challenged. If you're going to express strong opinions online, people are going to challenge them. That's how forums work. If lots of people are challenging your opinions, there might be an issue with their content or delivery, rather than there being some sort of coordinated pack going after you. |  |
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| Hate on 09:39 - Oct 30 with 4657 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| Hate on 09:26 - Oct 30 by Bluemike31 |
As a relatively new regular poster on here I will say one thing,
the ‘one view or be destroyed’ comment is actually pretty true from my early observations, people have to be allowed to question Mckenna if they choose without fear of the "pack" descending on them. |
I agree with this. It's only a select few posters who do it but they are popular, regular posters who are pretty relentless in 'policing' their positive agenda. The worst thing is they don't engage with any viewpoint different to their own, just throw around patronising insults like troll, budgie etc. It's a stain on the site luckily it's a minority.
On darkhorse28, don't agree with people being bullied off the site and hope he will cone back posting but maybe try and post with less of a doomsday perspective. A lot of his points were valid but the way he made them did made him look like he was on the windup.
Edit - darkhorse didn't mean to downvote your original post sorry [Post edited 30 Oct 9:43]
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| Hate on 09:48 - Oct 30 with 4519 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Hate on 09:39 - Oct 30 by Herbivore |
It does rather seem like those who are most vociferous in their criticism of McKenna, Ashton, the club in general are also the most sensitive to having their views challenged. If you're going to express strong opinions online, people are going to challenge them. That's how forums work. If lots of people are challenging your opinions, there might be an issue with their content or delivery, rather than there being some sort of coordinated pack going after you. |
Yep, I think that’s fair. Obviously outrageous stuff will naturally see the biggest response.
For example, if I posted Battenberg was the best cake ever I’d expect a pile on. | |
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| Hate on 09:48 - Oct 30 with 4529 views | peterleeblue |
I'm firmly in the Mckenna in camp. I may be wrong about that.
However, what I do have his a commodity called patience and an ability to see the bigger picture.
Lets say all was good in the world before we got promoted to the Premier League as far as Mckenna is concerned.
I always felt our Championship all stars approach may fail. Sunderland's approach this season has proved why. Simply our recruitment structure / model was either not up to scratch or more likely not developed enough to suggest that signing the players we actually needed would have been high risk as to any acquisitions actually fitting in not withs attending their ability being sufficient for the job in hand.
So yes Ashton and Mckenna have spent the money. On Ability alone the current squad is light years ahead of 23/24. Its is now down to Mckenna and his team to assist in developing the patterns of play along with on and off field relationships. "Lived Experiences" I think Mckenna calls it. No he doesn't have forever to achieve this but promotion by May 27 would certainly be acceptable to me maybe in the long run more preferential to May 26 (to allow our scouting / recruitment to be at a standard to draw the quality required to the club in order to stay up).
"You can’t leverage so much investment, deliver so little with it, and still be a young manager needing patience, sadly, that’s not how football works today" - Why ever not! We can be different you know. |  | | |
| Hate on 09:49 - Oct 30 with 4515 views | nrb1985 |
| Hate on 09:20 - Oct 30 by usm |
I rarely post these days - its just not worth the attacks that come your way especially if you happen to state an opinion that differs to some others 😱 |
Agree.
Can't even say these days that McKenna agreeing to join Brighton is worse than drink driving.
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| Hate on 09:50 - Oct 30 with 4513 views | MattinLondon |
This closing statement is up there with a previous poster (can’t remember their name) who had a big meltdown after Paul Cook was sacked. Marvellous work. |  | | |
| Hate on 09:50 - Oct 30 with 4511 views | SitfcB |
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| Hate on 09:50 - Oct 30 with 4498 views | Herbivore |
| Hate on 09:48 - Oct 30 by Swansea_Blue |
Yep, I think that’s fair. Obviously outrageous stuff will naturally see the biggest response.
For example, if I posted Battenberg was the best cake ever I’d expect a pile on. |
And you'd rightly get a pile on, but it would be a spontaneous response to your outlandish claim. | |
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| Hate on 09:51 - Oct 30 with 4489 views | John_Warks_Willy |
Well written, albeit we are of different views.
It’s strange reading it though, as you’d think we support different clubs. I just don’t recognise what you can see at all. |  |
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| Hate on 09:52 - Oct 30 with 4489 views | Herbivore |
| Hate on 09:50 - Oct 30 by MattinLondon |
This closing statement is up there with a previous poster (can’t remember their name) who had a big meltdown after Paul Cook was sacked. Marvellous work. |
That was dear old Keaneish. One of the greatest rants in TWTD history. Personally blamed Mullet and Badger for ruining the club. It didn't age very well. | |
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| Hate on 09:52 - Oct 30 with 4479 views | Bluroo |
| Hate on 09:36 - Oct 30 by Swansea_Blue |
There’s no problem in questioning McKenna or Ashton. They have been critical of themselves even, stating that the recruitment wasn’t right and needs a big upgrade (for example). KM’s got some learning to do still to get team up to speed, as we’re off target so far.
It’s the method of delivery and obsessive, seemingly vindictive manner of posting that seems to wind people up. Although yes, I agree people do get defensive around any criticism and there can be group think on here, but I don’t think that’s the main issue in this particular case (in my opinion anyway, for what it’s worth) |
A departing lecture on ignorance, arrogance and self awareness. The irony.
Its clear that our unexpected, over-achieving promotion in 2024 is the source of so much confusion and discontent. I'm surprised that "victim of success" is such a difficult idiom to comprehend. To encapsulate that position as an "echo-chamber" is laughable, given the "facts". | | | |
| Hate on 09:59 - Oct 30 with 4402 views | MattinLondon |
| Hate on 09:48 - Oct 30 by Swansea_Blue |
Yep, I think that’s fair. Obviously outrageous stuff will naturally see the biggest response.
For example, if I posted Battenberg was the best cake ever I’d expect a pile on. |
Battenberg Is marvellous cake. | | | |
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