| I dunno what we lack 21:45 - Nov 4 with 2416 views | Maccaisgod |
But somethings missing.
Saturday flattered us. |  | | |  |
| I dunno what we lack on 07:33 - Nov 5 with 424 views | Bluemike31 |
We don't have a decent striker at the club, that's One issue.
Too much changing the side, ok Davis was injured but Taylor & Nunez shouldn't be rotated, there's no damn consistency when you tinker with it all the time.
We look much better when Azon is up front but man he can't hit a barn door from Four yards, the ironic thing is, Hirst who was anonymous yet again probably scores that header !!
I think we have a lot of good quality individuals but we don't have a very good "team" and I believe the constant chopping and changing has a big part in that. | | | |
| I dunno what we lack on 07:43 - Nov 5 with 399 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I dunno what we lack on 23:14 - Nov 4 by badadski |
I counted 5 occasions where we were 4 on 4 breaking away and ended up stopping and playing back into our own half - I really don’t know how the team has actually regressed with the amount of money spent on it - it still looks like a group of players rather than a team which is really concerning . |
That comes back to the comments about being safe. We seem to value control of possession above all else, knowing that we have got a player on the pitch like Philogene or Clarke who can make things happen individually. It looks very pedestrian at times. Teams defend well against us because we seem to given them time to get back into their shape.
We’re very good at working the ball from side to side across the pitch though, maybe at PR we should move the goals to the touchlines  |  |
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| I dunno what we lack on 08:23 - Nov 5 with 347 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| I dunno what we lack on 22:05 - Nov 4 by FrimleyBlue |
He was on the pitch in the wrong position and came off for nunez.
Stick the golden boot winner in the position he won the golden boot ffs. |
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but almost all of his best form that season came playing 10/ second striker.
Scored 16 goals in 17 games playing attacking midfield ...
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/chuba-akpom/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/197642 [Post edited 5 Nov 8:23]
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| I dunno what we lack on 08:45 - Nov 5 with 333 views | mellowblue |
| I dunno what we lack on 22:04 - Nov 4 by LeoMuff |
Our 10s are completely non existent, we don’t get them the ball. Midfield is too safe, don’t show enough for the ball and when they do get it don’t turn or move foward.
Hence everything comes from wide areas.
Coupled to that chances are not being taken, Nunez, kipre, Azon golden chances missed today. |
We really don't have any natural 10s now. Just because Akpom or Nunez is shoehorned in there does not make them 10s. Though Nunez is okay at it and should have started and should be making that position his. He needs to command the middle, too often he drifts right.
Cajuste showed for the ball constantly, just was unable to open much up. Mats is a pretty limited footballer in my eyes, does his defensive duties and showing for the ball when deep, well enough, Further up the pitch can only cope with giving obvious balls out wide. Everything will come from wide area, that is the area we invested 70 million or so in. | | | |
| I dunno what we lack on 08:52 - Nov 5 with 320 views | BlueySwede |
We need to be more clinical.
Not all games are going to be easy or a fun watch in the Championship, but if we put the chances last night to bed, it´s a 3-1 or a 4-1 win. | | | |
| I dunno what we lack on 09:01 - Nov 5 with 303 views | DanTheMan |
Just going to echo everyone else really, we just needed to be slightly more clinical last night. Except for their goal, Watford showed very little.
Kipre, Azon, Taylor and Nunez all should have scored, we were incredibly wasteful.
I also agree with others that whatever our number 10 is supposed to be doing isn't working, they just aren't affecting the games enough although that is maybe a bit unfair on Akpom last night who seemed to get fouled every time he broke away from their players. |  |
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| I dunno what we lack on 09:14 - Nov 5 with 277 views | Trequartista |
Clinical finishing and clean sheets. Not rocket science.
There's nervousness at both ends. When the game is already won, watch how relaxed we suddenly become. [Post edited 5 Nov 9:15]
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| I dunno what we lack on 09:22 - Nov 5 with 248 views | FrimleyBlue |
It's not bad news, i've had this chat already, I'm fully aware he's played all across the frontline including the '10' but look at the majority of his goals, they are IN the box. IMO let him be in the box and have another 10 behind him...
I don't see the benefit of having him and hirst in the same lineup. That;s why im saying we have akpom on the pitch just play him where he can score the same amount of goals he did for boro. That for me isn't towns version of the 10 [Post edited 5 Nov 9:24]
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| I dunno what we lack on 09:44 - Nov 5 with 227 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| I dunno what we lack on 09:22 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
It's not bad news, i've had this chat already, I'm fully aware he's played all across the frontline including the '10' but look at the majority of his goals, they are IN the box. IMO let him be in the box and have another 10 behind him...
I don't see the benefit of having him and hirst in the same lineup. That;s why im saying we have akpom on the pitch just play him where he can score the same amount of goals he did for boro. That for me isn't towns version of the 10 [Post edited 5 Nov 9:24]
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Of course he's scoring from inside the box, 95% of goals in football are scored in the box.
That’s a nonsense argument. You wouldn’t suggest Chaplin play as a striker just because most of his goals are scored inside the area.
They’re different types of players, but both have thrived operating slightly deeper than a traditional No.9. That only works because players like George Hirst or Forss in his golden boot season do the graft up top, win duels and occupy centre-backs allowing them to pick up the pieces.
The roles in McKenna’s system aren’t remotely interchangeable from a responsibility point of view. Sure, he could play there, but all the historical evidence from McKenna’s teams suggests it wouldn’t really boost his goal output. [Post edited 5 Nov 9:45]
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| I dunno what we lack on 09:49 - Nov 5 with 221 views | itfcsuth |
Axel, Burgess, Morsy*, Broadhead, Burns, Chaplin
Six massive members of the group, that left or left behind and have not been replaced, or replaced well.
*Think Matusiwa is just as good as Morsy, if not better, but from the perspective of being the ultimate leader of the group on the pitch, we have not replaced Morsy. [Post edited 5 Nov 10:27]
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| I dunno what we lack on 10:05 - Nov 5 with 205 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I dunno what we lack on 09:44 - Nov 5 by Bellevue_Blue |
Of course he's scoring from inside the box, 95% of goals in football are scored in the box.
That’s a nonsense argument. You wouldn’t suggest Chaplin play as a striker just because most of his goals are scored inside the area.
They’re different types of players, but both have thrived operating slightly deeper than a traditional No.9. That only works because players like George Hirst or Forss in his golden boot season do the graft up top, win duels and occupy centre-backs allowing them to pick up the pieces.
The roles in McKenna’s system aren’t remotely interchangeable from a responsibility point of view. Sure, he could play there, but all the historical evidence from McKenna’s teams suggests it wouldn’t really boost his goal output. [Post edited 5 Nov 9:45]
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look, i'm not going to keep going round in circles about this
Akpom's a different type of 10 than what I feel town play with, i don't think he suits it and will never suit it, when he plays it, we lack something the the way we play, I think he'd be better off uptop or out of the side altogether, him and hirst doesnt work. both want to end up in the same place and that is in the box.
Chappers made late runs towards the box, but we got a lot out of chappers as a ball sprayer who then got involved in attacks, imo that's not akpom, it's like watching delap playing as a 10, he's got the directness, build and mobiilty but he's not a play maker.
I get what you're saying, but i'll die on the hill that Akpom and Sammy S are not 10's in a mckenna side. | |
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| I dunno what we lack on 10:24 - Nov 5 with 176 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I dunno what we lack on 09:44 - Nov 5 by Bellevue_Blue |
Of course he's scoring from inside the box, 95% of goals in football are scored in the box.
That’s a nonsense argument. You wouldn’t suggest Chaplin play as a striker just because most of his goals are scored inside the area.
They’re different types of players, but both have thrived operating slightly deeper than a traditional No.9. That only works because players like George Hirst or Forss in his golden boot season do the graft up top, win duels and occupy centre-backs allowing them to pick up the pieces.
The roles in McKenna’s system aren’t remotely interchangeable from a responsibility point of view. Sure, he could play there, but all the historical evidence from McKenna’s teams suggests it wouldn’t really boost his goal output. [Post edited 5 Nov 9:45]
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Are you saying Kieran McKenna knows more about football than dear old Frimmers?! WASH YOUR MOUTH OUT YOUNG MAN! |  |
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| I dunno what we lack on 10:26 - Nov 5 with 174 views | GeoffSentence |
I thik we are missing team spirit.
We clearly have a lot of much better individuals than we have had for many years, some really good players, but the team spirit of That Team is missing. Perfectly exemplified by the spat between Matisuwa and Philogene. |  |
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| I dunno what we lack on 10:33 - Nov 5 with 159 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I dunno what we lack on 10:24 - Nov 5 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Are you saying Kieran McKenna knows more about football than dear old Frimmers?! WASH YOUR MOUTH OUT YOUNG MAN! |
Be nice if KM can start showing it with our 10 role then Flash and potentially some of his own transfers
He did well with cooks squad and added bits to it, but he's struggling putting together a squad of his own that works well as a unit
an excellent head coach yes, a manager, maybe not.
We can only wait to find out. But not sure why such a talent can't see that Sammy S and Akpom doesn't work in our 10 role. It just doesnt | |
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| I dunno what we lack on 10:34 - Nov 5 with 157 views | Bluemike31 |
| I dunno what we lack on 10:33 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Be nice if KM can start showing it with our 10 role then Flash and potentially some of his own transfers
He did well with cooks squad and added bits to it, but he's struggling putting together a squad of his own that works well as a unit
an excellent head coach yes, a manager, maybe not.
We can only wait to find out. But not sure why such a talent can't see that Sammy S and Akpom doesn't work in our 10 role. It just doesnt |
Spot on. | | | |
| I dunno what we lack on 10:43 - Nov 5 with 131 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I dunno what we lack on 10:33 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Be nice if KM can start showing it with our 10 role then Flash and potentially some of his own transfers
He did well with cooks squad and added bits to it, but he's struggling putting together a squad of his own that works well as a unit
an excellent head coach yes, a manager, maybe not.
We can only wait to find out. But not sure why such a talent can't see that Sammy S and Akpom doesn't work in our 10 role. It just doesnt |
I am being nice, it just needs time (the team, not my niceness, which is ubiquitous). | |
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| I dunno what we lack on 10:45 - Nov 5 with 121 views | chantryblueboy |
| I dunno what we lack on 10:24 - Nov 5 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Are you saying Kieran McKenna knows more about football than dear old Frimmers?! WASH YOUR MOUTH OUT YOUNG MAN! |
Seems a bit of a silly argument this, what’s the point of being on a football forum if you can’t discuss football because the professionals know better | | | |
| I dunno what we lack on 10:58 - Nov 5 with 84 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I dunno what we lack on 10:43 - Nov 5 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I am being nice, it just needs time (the team, not my niceness, which is ubiquitous). |
Some things i agree will take time, but teams arent going to start coming at us suddenly, and i feel is the issue, because they aren't - the likes of Sammy S and Akpom aren't the best 10's for us in that sort of environment. | |
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| I dunno what we lack on 11:00 - Nov 5 with 83 views | Bluemike31 |
| I dunno what we lack on 10:58 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Some things i agree will take time, but teams arent going to start coming at us suddenly, and i feel is the issue, because they aren't - the likes of Sammy S and Akpom aren't the best 10's for us in that sort of environment. |
Bring Chappers back in January. | | | |
| I dunno what we lack on 11:08 - Nov 5 with 56 views | MrPotatoHead |
| I dunno what we lack on 22:01 - Nov 4 by Bluecasp |
What we lack is a decent second striker. Half decent striker at this level buries at least one of those headers. |
Big Keiffer would've stuck both of those headers away. |  | | |
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