| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 21:54 - Nov 4 with 5089 views | ITFC_84 |
🤮 This is an atrocious championship this season isn’t it. |  | | |  |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 12:29 - Nov 5 with 920 views | ITFC_84 |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 10:41 - Nov 5 by Radlett_blue |
Really? On the back of the huge money we have spent?
ÂŁ17m for Walle,.
ÂŁ12m for McAteer.
Substantial loan fees & wages for Akpom & Azon.
These guys have failed to find the net in 16 starts & 17 sub appearances.
Don't think insufficient money is the issue. |
I’m still waiting for Delap to be replaced. Just the 7 months since we’ve known he was leaving… | | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 16:18 - Nov 5 with 834 views | billlm |
Correct us included,
Were wasting a golden opportunity,
Even now it will take a huge effort to overhaul Coventry and get anywhere near stoke,
Our game in hand against a resurgent Blackburn is no given a point would be good, |  | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 16:19 - Nov 5 with 834 views | billlm |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 07:11 - Nov 5 by Wallingford_Boy |
We massively went for it in the summer!
That went well.
McAteer, Akpom, Azon, etc…. Good enough? |
Two out of three | | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 16:25 - Nov 5 with 833 views | Bellevue_Blue |
I actually totally disagree with this.
The massive leaps forward both in terms of scouting and in terms of budgets has allowed for teams in this division to become much much more competitive.
That is now being reflected in the league table where a side like Norwich, who spent 50M in the summer are in the bottom 3 and the three promoted teams are all struggling for consistency. | | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 16:30 - Nov 5 with 824 views | Radlett_blue |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 16:18 - Nov 5 by billlm |
Correct us included,
Were wasting a golden opportunity,
Even now it will take a huge effort to overhaul Coventry and get anywhere near stoke,
Our game in hand against a resurgent Blackburn is no given a point would be good, |
It's a long season, not even 1/3 complete & 33 games to play. We are only 7 points off 6th place (I'm ignoring the game in hand).
What we've done in the first third isn't good enough & McKenna is underachieving with the squad & the resources he has. I don't have the answers (I hope he finds them) but mental weakness is, I think, a big issue. I believe the awful PL season has created mental scars & many of the squad weren't at town when we were winning most weeks for the previous 2 years. This is shown by our poor form away (always a greater test of resilience) & inability to recover from losing positions. This is generally only fixed by going on a decent run! Leadership also doesn't seem so strong - we need a Morsy!
Some of the signings look poor value for money, while the loan players (Akpom & Azon) have contributed little.
I doubt the answer is going to be a rash of january signings, but some better back up to Hirst is essential. |  |
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 18:30 - Nov 5 with 786 views | BlueForYou |
They are there on merit so far & deserve to be. Belittling them will do you no good. We need to aspire to them. We are not entitled..!! |  | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 20:49 - Nov 5 with 731 views | skinnybob72 |
Preston were utter dugmeat against us and can go 4th with a win tonight. They were like a rugby team kicking for touch and created the square root of zero through their own play. If we finish below them we should sell everything and just give up. [Post edited 5 Nov 2025 21:42]
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 20:58 - Nov 5 with 716 views | bournemouthblue |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 07:11 - Nov 5 by Wallingford_Boy |
We massively went for it in the summer!
That went well.
McAteer, Akpom, Azon, etc…. Good enough? |
Time will tell
Cajuste, Nunez, Egeli and Matusiwa were probably the exciting additions, Young and Furlong the pragmatic ones? |  |
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 21:01 - Nov 5 with 708 views | ITFCSG |
Watching the match v Swansea now PNE seems a lot more direct and move the ball much faster than we did yesterday | | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 21:06 - Nov 5 with 685 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 12:29 - Nov 5 by ITFC_84 |
I’m still waiting for Delap to be replaced. Just the 7 months since we’ve known he was leaving… |
You’d have thought we’d at least have gone for a promising young striker from Seria A or something. [Post edited 5 Nov 2025 21:07]
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 21:35 - Nov 5 with 655 views | ITFC_84 |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 21:06 - Nov 5 by Swansea_Blue |
You’d have thought we’d at least have gone for a promising young striker from Seria A or something. [Post edited 5 Nov 2025 21:07]
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🤣 don’t make me laugh.
Serie A - he’s never played for them!
An on loan Azon, being signed last minute was the Delap replacement?! [Post edited 5 Nov 2025 21:36]
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 00:36 - Nov 6 with 613 views | Ryorry |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 04:59 - Nov 5 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
It’s really not arrogance, just facts, the division is not good. We have stability at helm and one of the most expensive championship squads of all time. Town have to deliver. |
Strange world you inhabit where
“We could be walking this along with Cov with the talent we've got”
and
“Honestly, that top 6 is embarrassing. Or is it embarassjng that we’re not in it“
etc.
Are “facts”. |  |
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 06:24 - Nov 6 with 556 views | vapour_trail |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 16:25 - Nov 5 by Bellevue_Blue |
I actually totally disagree with this.
The massive leaps forward both in terms of scouting and in terms of budgets has allowed for teams in this division to become much much more competitive.
That is now being reflected in the league table where a side like Norwich, who spent 50M in the summer are in the bottom 3 and the three promoted teams are all struggling for consistency. |
The relegated clubs struggling for consistency is more a reflection of how sub-optimal all three have been since gaining promotion. This is unique to this season for all three coming down to be this poor. |  |
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 07:07 - Nov 6 with 529 views | Cafe_Newman |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 12:29 - Nov 5 by algy |
23-24 was such a special achievement, achieving promotion in our first season back in the Champ but one thing that made it extra special was that we were competing so well against the clubs with trampoline payments from the PL. Trampoline payments are anti-competitive and distort the division. So it's great when those that get them fail to make the most of them. Rather see any of the top 6 go up than Leics or Soton. Just hope KM and MA can use our anti-competitive funding to bring us success. [Post edited 5 Nov 2025 12:30]
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Spot on. Well said.
When the teams with all the money don't dominate a league from day one it gives the 90% of football fans - the type who watch their club finish in 15th place in second tier football for 19 years only to drop to the third tier - hope and a real reason to love football.
2 years ago we laughed at the big clubs for calling us lucky and mocked their arrogance and sense of entitlement. We were certainly more consistent than Leeds that year and Leicester, Town and Saints all went up at Leeds' expense. Which of those four clubs is happier today?
Come on peeps, the entitlement thing doesn't look good at all. |  | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 07:11 - Nov 6 with 524 views | Benters |
The table doesn’t lie ba. |  |
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 07:24 - Nov 6 with 498 views | Wallingford_Boy |
Always an interesting argument, apparently last season was the worst quality Prem in history, which is why a poor Liverpool won it so easily.
I’d say this seasons championship is not worse than last, three good sides have clearly gone up to the Prem, but good ones have come in from league one this season.
I think it’s more down to us, saints and Leicester struggling and underperforming rather than the overall quality of the league. |  |
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 07:36 - Nov 6 with 475 views | Cafe_Newman |
For almost every club without parachute money or very wealthy owners, this is an excellent Championship season. I thought Town fans generally liked it when success comes without having a huge financial advantage. We did two years ago.
Those who are whining about the current state of affairs are rightly holding Kieran responsible.
I'm happy about that because Kieran has to sort it out before his stock value really plummets.
Everyone who needs to know the current situation isn't good enough already knows. Being petulant isn't going to solve anything.
And finally, I thought Watford looked a lot better than their league position suggests and we outplayed them almost completely, it was just our finishing which was very poor. We don't have bad players or a bad team, we just need the confidence which comes with a bit of consistency.
Throwing our toys out of the pram isn't going to help in the slightest. | | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 07:38 - Nov 6 with 474 views | Cafe_Newman |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 07:11 - Nov 6 by Benters |
The table doesn’t lie ba. |
No, the table at the end of the season doesn't lie. | | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 10:54 - Nov 6 with 415 views | Radlett_blue |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 06:24 - Nov 6 by vapour_trail |
The relegated clubs struggling for consistency is more a reflection of how sub-optimal all three have been since gaining promotion. This is unique to this season for all three coming down to be this poor. |
Exactly. And have Town been sub-optimal because McKenna didn't recruit the right players last summer & has made similar mistakes this summer? | |
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 12:31 - Nov 6 with 393 views | ipswichtillidie |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 21:56 - Nov 4 by TrumptonBlue |
Two of them are there because they beat us. |
Exactly and we have been very poor too so far but agree with the sentiment the league is there for someone to take hold. Not sure we have the team ethic to make it top 2 from what I’ve seen. POs this season. |  |
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 13:18 - Nov 6 with 352 views | Dubtractor |
Just popping into this thread to note that after 13 games in the 22/23 season, Norwich, QPR, Reading and Swansea were all in the top 6.
They finished 13th, 20th, 22nd and 10th respectively.
Point being, that the table after 13 or 14 games often throws up some oddities, with a short run of form enough to elevate teams in the table, but that the final table (33 games later!) usually irons out those quirks. It doesn't follow that the league is poor. |  |
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