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As I ask this question to those who were in attendance today and the qpr game
Is he celebrating with the team when he's not scoring? V qpr on the replays when hirst scored he was sorting his socks out rather than running to hirst ( I add that's what the tele showed
Today when azon scored he was in the pic when he scored but wasn't one of those on the replay to run over to him.
Disclaimer. I am not asking this for some of those to get involved with bad attitude etc. But more of how could we get him to feel more included outside of when he scores. Its just sad to see someone coming across as isolated.
Hopefully those in attendance can share that he does indeed run over etc.
And again. Those last week who went down the bad attitude stuff I dont buy into that. But self exclusion can be a worrying sign and could be a signal that hes not feeling part of it all which in any part of life is a horrible situation to be in.
When walking back to the train station was talking to a guy that stayed at team hotel last night. Said Philogene was a lovely chap and chatted for a while as did some the other team and that J Clarke blanked anyone that wanted to say hello. Just different personalities and different personal circumstances most the time wouldn’t read into anything.
Dear god. I made it very clear what and why I am asking ffs.
I think your last paragraph in your original post is a bit over the top. That’s why people are questioning your comment.
The reaction from everyone when he scored against Nodge showed how much he’s liked and part of the group. So. Your post does come across as a little weird for want of a better word.
I think your last paragraph in your original post is a bit over the top. That’s why people are questioning your comment.
The reaction from everyone when he scored against Nodge showed how much he’s liked and part of the group. So. Your post does come across as a little weird for want of a better word.
[Post edited 8 Nov 23:21]
But that's what I meant by self exclusion not how others treat him when he scores.
But some nice replies back so hopefully hes all good in himself. :)
It’s not self-exclusion, he’s just comes across as quite reserved. Not every player wants to over celebrate or kiss the badge. He does his job, a team player and that’s-that.
At the end of each match and prior as well, he’s chatting away so again, the self-exclusion thing has no reality. Gets on with his job and that’s that.
It’s not self-exclusion, he’s just comes across as quite reserved. Not every player wants to over celebrate or kiss the badge. He does his job, a team player and that’s-that.
At the end of each match and prior as well, he’s chatting away so again, the self-exclusion thing has no reality. Gets on with his job and that’s that.
It certainly seems that way.
I think it's very easy to forget that, for all their talent, riches, and media training, professional footballers are humans just like us.
They're not all outgoing 'life and soul of the party' types, and they're just as likely to be neurodiverse, introverted, socially awkward, or anything else in that vein.
I think it's very easy to forget that, for all their talent, riches, and media training, professional footballers are humans just like us.
They're not all outgoing 'life and soul of the party' types, and they're just as likely to be neurodiverse, introverted, socially awkward, or anything else in that vein.
Agreed.
I also think that a lot of footballers are more self-conscious than what their collective public image perceives them to be.
I think it's very easy to forget that, for all their talent, riches, and media training, professional footballers are humans just like us.
They're not all outgoing 'life and soul of the party' types, and they're just as likely to be neurodiverse, introverted, socially awkward, or anything else in that vein.
There was a lovely little moment with Ashley Young after the game yesterday where Jaden obviously said something cheeky to him, Young did a mock aggressive move and Jaden did a mock scared skitter away - then obviously all smiles and laughs and hugs as they walked off.
It's just different personalities, in different moments, innit.
Just watching Kally's vlog and Philogene is very much a part of the Azon cellebrations - he's with the group and high-fives him as they start to walk back to the centre circle:
It would be nice to think all in the team were mates. But in reality just as I have worked with and met hundreds, if not thousands in a lifetime of work most aren't your mates, Perhaps it's assumed being a team sport that due to the fact they are all working for one cause that they celebrate together. We all celebrate in different ways. I for instance am not and have never been a party animal. That's not to say I don't mix as when I am on my holidays and experiencing dinner with people I meet I love the conversation and getting to know others. However the rest of my life contains few friends and I am mostly in touch with my grown up children and Grandchildren who I have huge affection for, I talk with them about the jobs they like to do or what they would like to do and pass on my experiences of travel for which luckily I have done a considerable amount.
Apologies to sharing a slight concern for a players mental health chelts.
But majority of replies have been great and answered my op.
[Post edited 9 Nov 10:43]
The thing is you know absolutely nothing about his mental health or personality so how is speculating about it in any way helpful?
You're starting from a position of no information and extracting a possible narrative from a few images and videos that in reality when looked at don't seem to back up your conclusion.
Need to be quite careful with these types of threads.
The thing is you know absolutely nothing about his mental health or personality so how is speculating about it in any way helpful?
You're starting from a position of no information and extracting a possible narrative from a few images and videos that in reality when looked at don't seem to back up your conclusion.
Need to be quite careful with these types of threads.
The thing is you know absolutely nothing about his mental health or personality so how is speculating about it in any way helpful?
You're starting from a position of no information and extracting a possible narrative from a few images and videos that in reality when looked at don't seem to back up your conclusion.
Need to be quite careful with these types of threads.
SB
[Post edited 9 Nov 20:34]
I asked a fken question.
Fk sake what is with this forum. No i dont know fk all about him. Hence I asked. I also stated very clearly it was based on very brief tv highlights and asked very specifically of those who had the bigger picture.
I wanted to ask it earlier in the day but didn't know how to ask it without posters trying to take the post for more than it was. And I make it clear I didn't want the bad attitude people seeing it as an opportunity to jump in either.
I wish people could just have an open discussion on here.
If it were histric frimmers asking i can understand your issue. But its not. And I think ive been proving that.
Im off otherwise im going to get emotional about it.
But yeah come on guys. Open yourselves up to open discussions without the need for ridicule and aggression.
Fk sake what is with this forum. No i dont know fk all about him. Hence I asked. I also stated very clearly it was based on very brief tv highlights and asked very specifically of those who had the bigger picture.
I wanted to ask it earlier in the day but didn't know how to ask it without posters trying to take the post for more than it was. And I make it clear I didn't want the bad attitude people seeing it as an opportunity to jump in either.
I wish people could just have an open discussion on here.
If it were histric frimmers asking i can understand your issue. But its not. And I think ive been proving that.
Im off otherwise im going to get emotional about it.
But yeah come on guys. Open yourselves up to open discussions without the need for ridicule and aggression.
[Post edited 9 Nov 21:12]
You wish that people could have open discussions about other peoples mental health based on no knowledge of the person and no evidence?
Carry on then, let's see how that turns out for you.
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