| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. 08:12 - Nov 19 with 4977 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/19/keir-starmer-labour-leader
'Wilful detachment from so much of what defines politics explains the reliance on McSweeney, whose strength in opposition was controlling party machinery and deploying it with ruthless efficiency. But the methods that worked in the run-up to July 2024 are not relevant to the challenge of running a country. The government isn’t a giant constituency party to be captured by a well-organised clique, then purged of irksome, wrong-thinking members.' |  |
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| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 10:54 - Nov 19 with 825 views | Whos_blue |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 10:34 - Nov 19 by Benters |
Bring on Nigel |
To do what exactly?
Genuinely curious how you think he is our saviour? |  |
| Distortion becomes somehow pure in its wildness. |
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| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 10:56 - Nov 19 with 803 views | leitrimblue |
Hard to imagine a few years ago that both Labour and the Conservatives would go to the dogs and leave the space completely open for Nig and Reform.
Starmer and Mcsweeney have a lot to answer for |  | | |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 10:58 - Nov 19 with 798 views | leitrimblue |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 10:54 - Nov 19 by Whos_blue |
To do what exactly?
Genuinely curious how you think he is our saviour? |
Part of the problem in UK politics at the moment is there is no saviour.
I mean who are people supposed to trust when they feel completely let down by the 2 main parties? | | | |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:05 - Nov 19 with 763 views | Whos_blue |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 10:58 - Nov 19 by leitrimblue |
Part of the problem in UK politics at the moment is there is no saviour.
I mean who are people supposed to trust when they feel completely let down by the 2 main parties? |
So we trust Farage and Reform?
What do they stand for other than migration?
When/if they sort that, then what? | |
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| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:08 - Nov 19 with 750 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 10:48 - Nov 19 by ArnoldMoorhen |
It's not just energy and connection- they are the cherry on the cake.
It's moral leadership and values driven politics which is lacking. Both in terms of your first paragraph- absolutely taking on the hate agenda propagated by Farage and the Golf Club Committee members and teenage 4chan stans now running Social Services in a town near you.
But also in setting out a vision for the nation and the roadmap to restoring so much of what was cut during the optional choice of responding to a global recession with austerity. That will take time, more than a decade, but there's no sense of a plan, and no communication about why it matters. Nothing on the scandalous lack of investment in local roads (which often comes near the top of most people's complaints) or the decimation of youth services which enabled the county lines network and the grooming gangs, and nothing positive about migration and the benefits it bestows on eg the NHS.
Just Rachel fecking Reeves finding ways to keep the disaster capitalists at bay for another month.
Depressing doesn't do it justice.
And, of course, the billionaires get richer, and want us to be depressed so that their useful idiot Farage can implement the destruction of the NHS and more repressive targeted measures to divide and conquer and keep the little people from challenging their place in the game.
I think we should all go all-in on supporting nice guy Ed Davey, so that he can become Prime Minister before Hugh Bonneville becomes too old to play him in the inevitable "against all odds" biopic.
He does look like Hugh Bonneville, doesn't he? And you like Hugh Bonneville, don't you?
There you go, I've just written the General Election winning slogan for the Lib Dems that will capture Middle England.
Shhhh! Nobody mention the fact that he was part of that shtty Coalition that led to this mess. I don't want to know that!
It's either him or the "Big Breasts Hypnotist". The old adage of Politicians with big promises being Snake Oil Salesman may need to get updated to reference that!
It's got to be Obi Wan Eddavey. He's our only hope! |
When you look back and think about the last election you have to admit Labour ran a perfect campaign.
it wasn’t even aimed at potential Labour voters. Time for a change was aimed at splitting the Tory vote and worked perfectly.
All LibDems have to do is campaign under the slogan “Time for a real change this time Vote LibDem.” |  |
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| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:10 - Nov 19 with 745 views | leitrimblue |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:05 - Nov 19 by Whos_blue |
So we trust Farage and Reform?
What do they stand for other than migration?
When/if they sort that, then what? |
I personally wouldn't trust Nig and reform for a millisecond. But if the main parties fail to offer a better alternative then people are gonna vote reform.
They won't sort immigration obviously. Its the only card they have.. | | | |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:35 - Nov 19 with 698 views | BlueBadger |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 10:48 - Nov 19 by ArnoldMoorhen |
It's not just energy and connection- they are the cherry on the cake.
It's moral leadership and values driven politics which is lacking. Both in terms of your first paragraph- absolutely taking on the hate agenda propagated by Farage and the Golf Club Committee members and teenage 4chan stans now running Social Services in a town near you.
But also in setting out a vision for the nation and the roadmap to restoring so much of what was cut during the optional choice of responding to a global recession with austerity. That will take time, more than a decade, but there's no sense of a plan, and no communication about why it matters. Nothing on the scandalous lack of investment in local roads (which often comes near the top of most people's complaints) or the decimation of youth services which enabled the county lines network and the grooming gangs, and nothing positive about migration and the benefits it bestows on eg the NHS.
Just Rachel fecking Reeves finding ways to keep the disaster capitalists at bay for another month.
Depressing doesn't do it justice.
And, of course, the billionaires get richer, and want us to be depressed so that their useful idiot Farage can implement the destruction of the NHS and more repressive targeted measures to divide and conquer and keep the little people from challenging their place in the game.
I think we should all go all-in on supporting nice guy Ed Davey, so that he can become Prime Minister before Hugh Bonneville becomes too old to play him in the inevitable "against all odds" biopic.
He does look like Hugh Bonneville, doesn't he? And you like Hugh Bonneville, don't you?
There you go, I've just written the General Election winning slogan for the Lib Dems that will capture Middle England.
Shhhh! Nobody mention the fact that he was part of that shtty Coalition that led to this mess. I don't want to know that!
It's either him or the "Big Breasts Hypnotist". The old adage of Politicians with big promises being Snake Oil Salesman may need to get updated to reference that!
It's got to be Obi Wan Eddavey. He's our only hope! |
'Nice Guy Ed Davey' who spent 5 years propping up ideologically driven austerity? |  |
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| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:41 - Nov 19 with 661 views | Pinewoodblue |
I never thought a post attacking Labour would reach a second page without anyone really standing up for them.
Times are changing. | |
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| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:49 - Nov 19 with 653 views | TNBlue |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 10:17 - Nov 19 by GlasgowBlue |
If only you posted your outrage about the poor Palestinians being murdered every day by Hamas. We might actually believe that you genuinely cared about them rather than using them as a means to score points on a provincial football club's message board. |
Or highlighted the plight of people dying in Ukraine every day to show they care about all innocent people who are victims of wars. |  | | |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:49 - Nov 19 with 639 views | DJR |
I don't recall people like Rafael Behr objecting before the election to what was going on in the party.
As it is, I hung on for longer than I should have but in the end I couldn't remain a member of a party so lacking in principles or a narrative, and with people in charge so determined to remould the party in their image and to weed out any dissent.
The result was a party that got only 33% of the vote not a sound basis for when (as inevitably) things would get difficult. [Post edited 19 Nov 11:51]
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| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:51 - Nov 19 with 645 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:35 - Nov 19 by BlueBadger |
'Nice Guy Ed Davey' who spent 5 years propping up ideologically driven austerity? |
And ignored Alan Bates when he raised the issues over the Post Office/Horizon scandal. |  |
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| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:55 - Nov 19 with 626 views | Dubtractor |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:41 - Nov 19 by Pinewoodblue |
I never thought a post attacking Labour would reach a second page without anyone really standing up for them.
Times are changing. |
I'm making a rare general comment to respond to this.
Labour, for reasons I'll never understand, are going all out to try and appeal to people who will never vote for them (even if historically that demographic may have), and in doing so are repelling the people who actually did vote for them.
It is beyond stupid. |  |
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| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:56 - Nov 19 with 625 views | TNBlue |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:51 - Nov 19 by GlasgowBlue |
And ignored Alan Bates when he raised the issues over the Post Office/Horizon scandal. |
And currently shilling for BBC in the wake of it being exposed for doctoring the trump quotes.
If there's a lost cause, he'll chase it | | | |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:58 - Nov 19 with 619 views | Herbivore |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 10:34 - Nov 19 by Benters |
Bring on Nigel |
Why do you hate your country so much? |  |
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| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:59 - Nov 19 with 613 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:55 - Nov 19 by Dubtractor |
I'm making a rare general comment to respond to this.
Labour, for reasons I'll never understand, are going all out to try and appeal to people who will never vote for them (even if historically that demographic may have), and in doing so are repelling the people who actually did vote for them.
It is beyond stupid. |
Get back to the football chat!!!! We don't want your sort on general. | |
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| Ukraine’s not “on trend” anymore. (n/t) on 12:08 - Nov 19 with 584 views | Bloots |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:49 - Nov 19 by TNBlue |
Or highlighted the plight of people dying in Ukraine every day to show they care about all innocent people who are victims of wars. |
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| "I saw him at the match last week, what a legend. I was slightly overcome to be honest” - TWTD User (Nov 2025) |
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| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 12:20 - Nov 19 with 563 views | BlueBadger |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:56 - Nov 19 by TNBlue |
And currently shilling for BBC in the wake of it being exposed for doctoring the trump quotes.
If there's a lost cause, he'll chase it |
In all fairness, that Trump edit made him look like he was trying to incite a coup because he was, in fact, trying to incite a coup. [Post edited 19 Nov 12:26]
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| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 12:23 - Nov 19 with 556 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 11:59 - Nov 19 by GlasgowBlue |
Get back to the football chat!!!! We don't want your sort on general. |
Speak for yourself, Dubbers' return is my greatest moment on here in literally days. | |
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| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 12:44 - Nov 19 with 504 views | BlueBadger |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 10:34 - Nov 19 by Benters |
Bring on Nigel |
Voting Reform is an act of treason. | |
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| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 12:46 - Nov 19 with 500 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 08:14 - Nov 19 by TNBlue |
Is this site a subsidiary of the Guardian? The amount of links I see posted on here. |
Ah the Guardian! Read by people who claim to be highly educated, with a smug sense of superiority because it’s so unapologetically left wing and uses big words to make them feel clever.
They’re usually mid 50s or older, VERY badly dressed and highly annoying in real life. They also drink crap wine but will tell you it’s good while moaning about how others live their lives. They usually do this from their nice middle class house they purchased when it was super affordable back in the day.
They probably talk about cheese first and then climate change a very close second. |  |
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| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 12:51 - Nov 19 with 470 views | leitrimblue |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 12:46 - Nov 19 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Ah the Guardian! Read by people who claim to be highly educated, with a smug sense of superiority because it’s so unapologetically left wing and uses big words to make them feel clever.
They’re usually mid 50s or older, VERY badly dressed and highly annoying in real life. They also drink crap wine but will tell you it’s good while moaning about how others live their lives. They usually do this from their nice middle class house they purchased when it was super affordable back in the day.
They probably talk about cheese first and then climate change a very close second. |
Excellent stereotyping 
Can you do Daily Mail readers next? | | | |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 12:52 - Nov 19 with 464 views | J2BLUE |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 12:46 - Nov 19 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Ah the Guardian! Read by people who claim to be highly educated, with a smug sense of superiority because it’s so unapologetically left wing and uses big words to make them feel clever.
They’re usually mid 50s or older, VERY badly dressed and highly annoying in real life. They also drink crap wine but will tell you it’s good while moaning about how others live their lives. They usually do this from their nice middle class house they purchased when it was super affordable back in the day.
They probably talk about cheese first and then climate change a very close second. |
The Guardian isn't too bad.
The Guardian opinion pages are pretty terrible though. |  |
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| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 12:58 - Nov 19 with 426 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 12:46 - Nov 19 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Ah the Guardian! Read by people who claim to be highly educated, with a smug sense of superiority because it’s so unapologetically left wing and uses big words to make them feel clever.
They’re usually mid 50s or older, VERY badly dressed and highly annoying in real life. They also drink crap wine but will tell you it’s good while moaning about how others live their lives. They usually do this from their nice middle class house they purchased when it was super affordable back in the day.
They probably talk about cheese first and then climate change a very close second. |
What is the Trump lovers, democracy deniers and anti Ukrainer's journal of choice? |  | | |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 13:03 - Nov 19 with 401 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Voting Labour, how's it working out for you? A reprise. on 12:58 - Nov 19 by reusersfreekicks |
What is the Trump lovers, democracy deniers and anti Ukrainer's journal of choice? |
Aw it was just tongue in cheek didn’t mean to touch such a a nerve. I wouldn’t know, I’m sure you could find something online! | |
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