| Portman road atmosphere 07:20 - Nov 23 with 3628 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
Whose job is it to generate positivity and noise at PR? Is it down to the players to start off by playing great and scoring to get the crowd into the mood?
Or is it up to the fans to just sing and create noise that lifts the players to greater heights?
Because the Wrexham fans were right it was football in a library yesterday. From the SAR, we could barely hear a squeak out of Block A and the SBR.
I'm an old fella with a failing voice, hence sitting in the SAR. But in my younger days, ebven when the football was not great the North Stand would generate noise and help the team. Which is how it should be. It just seems now that way too many fans seem to think it's the team's job to get them excited, and only then to join in. If the fans can't help the team, we will get what we deserve like yesterday. |  |
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| Portman road atmosphere on 10:20 - Nov 23 with 571 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Portman road atmosphere on 10:08 - Nov 23 by Benters |
It’s impossible to tell being at home and watching or listening according to our friend from the smoke !🤓😚 |
Indeed. You're starting to get it Benters, although I don't know why it's such a strange concept for you.
Next we'll be discussing the difference between your Spotify playlist and being at a music gig. |  |
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| Portman road atmosphere on 10:21 - Nov 23 with 566 views | Pinewoodblue |
Teams like Wrexham set out to keep our fans quiet, we are not obliged to comply.
Be the twelfth man.
Go in at half time with a lead and we romp home. |  |
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| Always find it amusing…. on 10:22 - Nov 23 with 573 views | Bloots |
….when supporters who stand in silence for the majority of a match blame “acoustics”.
They could have individual megaphones and sound systems and it would still be quiet.
Odd that 1,500 ITFC fans at an away match consistently produce far more noise than about 5,000 at a home match.
Acoustics, my arse. |  |
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| Portman road atmosphere on 10:22 - Nov 23 with 562 views | Ryorry |
| Portman road atmosphere on 10:16 - Nov 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No. You're slagging off the support of our fans at a game that you weren't at.
As one of those supporters I take umbrage to that. Everyone's entitled to their view on the atmosphere ...if they were there. You've repeatedly said Wrexham's support was good and ours wasn't (or words to that effect) despite not being at the game. It is impossible to properly gauge the quality, or otherwise, of a team's support through a TV or a radio, because you have no input as to where the microphones are.
I didn't particularly notice the atmosphere one way or the other - neither great or terrible. Others are quite welcome to disagree if it wasn't up to their standards - if they were at the game. If you weren't at the game you have no business commenting on the atmosphere. |
I have just as much right to comment *on the TownTV broadcast* as I was listening to it and you were not. |  |
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| Portman road atmosphere on 10:22 - Nov 23 with 557 views | Benters |
| Portman road atmosphere on 10:20 - Nov 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Indeed. You're starting to get it Benters, although I don't know why it's such a strange concept for you.
Next we'll be discussing the difference between your Spotify playlist and being at a music gig. |
I’m going message Ant and Dec this years celebrity could do with some like you to liven it up a bit 🤓 |  |
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| Portman road atmosphere on 10:26 - Nov 23 with 533 views | Ryorry |
| Portman road atmosphere on 10:20 - Nov 23 by TractorWood |
Perhaps not a good excuse but the squad is mostly quite new and does lack any real leadership. To me, it's just a collection of young millionaires now working their way up the ladder.
With the old squad you got a load more than its sum of its parts because it had a real togetherness. To me, this is the biggest concern this season. If Philogene doesn't have a great game and Nunez doesn't get a free kick we are stuffed. |
“With the old squad you got a load more than its sum of its parts because it had a real togetherness”.
Spot on. | |
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| Always find it amusing…. on 10:27 - Nov 23 with 530 views | Benters |
| Always find it amusing…. on 10:22 - Nov 23 by Bloots |
….when supporters who stand in silence for the majority of a match blame “acoustics”.
They could have individual megaphones and sound systems and it would still be quiet.
Odd that 1,500 ITFC fans at an away match consistently produce far more noise than about 5,000 at a home match.
Acoustics, my arse. |
This. | |
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| Portman road atmosphere on 10:33 - Nov 23 with 513 views | Ryorry |
| Portman road atmosphere on 10:18 - Nov 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No you weren't. I mean, you've dressed it up like that, but clearly your posting on this topic is to diss the home support. |
Downright lie; evidence that you are not actually able to read my mind. | |
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| Portman road atmosphere on 10:43 - Nov 23 with 484 views | Ryorry |
| Portman road atmosphere on 10:33 - Nov 23 by Ryorry |
Downright lie; evidence that you are not actually able to read my mind. |
And yet another downvote for stating a fact, | |
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| Portman road atmosphere on 11:25 - Nov 23 with 419 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| Portman road atmosphere on 09:38 - Nov 23 by Smoresy |
I thought it was bad yesterday if I'm honest. For acoustic purposes I'm in the Cobbold, on the border of blocks B and C.
The first 20 minutes showed willing to be sure. Blue Action were plugging away. Two or three alternative songs emanated sporadically from the Lower North. Everywhere else was between silence and clapping as per. Meanwhile pitch events were pretty positive. Then a collective lull descended over everyone including on pitch, and at some point shortly afterwards Walton found himself pausing on the ball.
The rest of the first half was a blend of silence, groaning and jeering, punctuated by the occasional "come on Ipswich" and applause for nearby subs. This agitating was barely directed at the ref, it was a little at perceived time-wasting; mostly it was reserved for any Ipswich player passing backwards, and for Walton the second he received it. Walton felt the need to gesture to the North to get off his back as we approached 40 minutes; I suspect the defence was pleased we swap ends at HT.
Second half started in better fashion on pitch and in crowd, albeit there was little visible or audible interest from the North as players re-emerged from the tunnel. Soon after there was little to nothing in the way of positive chanting, but the mix was mostly silence and rallying cries. The boo at FT was timid, almost apologetic. The toxicity of the first half had been quelled by the switch of ends.
I left feeling that the crowd probably deserved a draw on balance, because the second half wasn't counter-productive. It was just bad in decibel levels and observable songs, which is normal for us when we aren't winning and the same may be said for much of the country. Quiet, modest support(-ish) is the norm this season and I hope to hear more of that next time around, as opposed to quiet and slightly destabilising. |
It could not have helped that the lower North was faced with rain being pushed into them. From B block, A block gave it a go fairly well. I could hear the Wrexham at about 60 minutes singing but otherwise not at all.
However if somebody could do something about the PA system in the Cobbold which does not work well at all we would all benefit. |  | | |
| Portman road atmosphere on 11:41 - Nov 23 with 401 views | Herbivore |
| Portman road atmosphere on 10:20 - Nov 23 by TractorWood |
Perhaps not a good excuse but the squad is mostly quite new and does lack any real leadership. To me, it's just a collection of young millionaires now working their way up the ladder.
With the old squad you got a load more than its sum of its parts because it had a real togetherness. To me, this is the biggest concern this season. If Philogene doesn't have a great game and Nunez doesn't get a free kick we are stuffed. |
Although that togetherness didn't come overnight. Rewind to McKenna's first season before he joined us and many of the players who went on to be heroes for us looked pretty hopeless. McKenna immediately improved us but there were lots of times that season we struggled to break down stubborn well organised League 1 sides, hence never putting together a run good enough to challenge the top 6. The following season pre-February there were lots of games where we laboured at times. Once things clicked we were hard to stop and we carried that momentum into the Championship, but it's not like it was something that just happened, it took time to forge. We've had a lot of turnover, probably too much, but we need to show a bit of willing to give new players a chance. The last lot of heroes didn't start amazingly with us either. |  |
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| Portman road atmosphere on 11:45 - Nov 23 with 397 views | WestSussexBlue |
| Portman road atmosphere on 10:20 - Nov 23 by TractorWood |
Perhaps not a good excuse but the squad is mostly quite new and does lack any real leadership. To me, it's just a collection of young millionaires now working their way up the ladder.
With the old squad you got a load more than its sum of its parts because it had a real togetherness. To me, this is the biggest concern this season. If Philogene doesn't have a great game and Nunez doesn't get a free kick we are stuffed. |
The first line of the Second paragraph is spot on.
I’m not yet seeing or feeling the togetherness as we saw in 23/24. |  | | |
| Portman road atmosphere on 11:54 - Nov 23 with 379 views | bluefunk |
| Portman road atmosphere on 11:45 - Nov 23 by WestSussexBlue |
The first line of the Second paragraph is spot on.
I’m not yet seeing or feeling the togetherness as we saw in 23/24. |
Mainly because this squad has only been together for three months not 2 years |  | | |
| Portman road atmosphere on 12:00 - Nov 23 with 372 views | north_stand |
Embarrassing is the only word that sums up the atmosphere yesterday, it’s been poor all season and is only good at away games so far, we have great levels of support each week and i do not want to criticise the time and cost and effort of our fans attending home and away as our fans are great supporters but the majority are not supporting the team with singing and trying to lift the team as we have always done in the past, there are lots of fans who want to sing as I have witnessed it in the west stand and the churchmans this season but the songs start in the north stand or blue action and get handfuls of fans in the other stands trying to join in and getting their sections going but no one else takes up the chants and it falls flat and it’s just me tunelessly singing on my own!
For the time being PLEASE get behind the team, make new song to replace the morsy and broady songs and sing your hearts out.
Moving forward there needs to be a joined up approach between the football club, blue action and season ticket holders who want to create an intimidating and fun atmosphere at our ground, perhaps a dedicated singing stand, maybe if the cobbold gets redeveloped this can house these fans who want to stand and sing and increase the capacity using safe standing fold up seats like in the more lively stadiums of the Bundesliga
The excuse of poor acoustics is laughable, but if that stand is redeveloped it should be built to enhance the acoustics, with a stand that will drown out the away fans I feel the rest of the stadium will join in with the singing more | | | |
| Portman road atmosphere on 12:04 - Nov 23 with 363 views | DJR |
My experience over the years is that away fans generally out sing home fans unless the game really means something.
And that is equally true when we are away, hence our often singing about being in a library.
Indeed, I can't really remember the last game when the home fans in a game we were involved in sung for that long. Even the Premier League was disappointing in that respect, and in particular the penultimate game at Goodison, when I expected a much better atmosphere from the home crowd. [Post edited 23 Nov 12:08]
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| Portman road atmosphere on 12:14 - Nov 23 with 340 views | cressi |
Yesterday was like watching wet cement dry I can't remember since we beat Chelsea a game I came out the ground buzzing yes Norwich but that was down to the last twenty minutes I can't remember playing well for the 90 minutes at Portman Road. | | | |
| Portman road atmosphere on 12:16 - Nov 23 with 330 views | Herbivore |
| Portman road atmosphere on 12:14 - Nov 23 by cressi |
Yesterday was like watching wet cement dry I can't remember since we beat Chelsea a game I came out the ground buzzing yes Norwich but that was down to the last twenty minutes I can't remember playing well for the 90 minutes at Portman Road. |
Did you miss us battering Sheffield United 5-0? | |
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| Portman road atmosphere on 12:18 - Nov 23 with 321 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Portman road atmosphere on 07:26 - Nov 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
In the North I didn't notice a problem with the levels of support... and I couldn't hear the Wrexham fans. I think it's more to do with poor acoustics than poor supporters, and with you being right next to the away fans you're obviously going to hear them better. |
“It’s to do with acoustics”. Hahahaha. Never heard that one before (excuse the pun). |  |
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| Portman road atmosphere on 12:31 - Nov 23 with 284 views | The_Major |
| Portman road atmosphere on 11:54 - Nov 23 by bluefunk |
Mainly because this squad has only been together for three months not 2 years |
Exactly, although there are definite signs - see the celebrations following Azon scoring at Swansea. |  | | |
| Portman road atmosphere on 12:34 - Nov 23 with 279 views | TresBonne |
I don't get to many home games now as I live away from Suffolk, maybe 5/6 a season, but I always sit in Block A with my mate when I do.
In there, it sounds loud as. Pretty much constant singing throughout - a lot of younger fans who make noise. But you literally cannot hear the SBR which is right next to you. It's quite rare that we get a song in time with them and often can be singing two different songs, drowning each other out. The acoustics of the ground are terrible.
There's been plenty of times where I've come out of Block A thinking wow, what a great atmosphere today. Then linked up with mates sitting elsewhere in the ground and they couldn't hear a peep.
Why this is the case, god knows - but I remember being in the Co Op stand for the Burnley FA Cup game years ago and thinking how loud the new singing section was and what a positive atmosphere they brought.
EDIT - Side note, we have also lost a lot of our chants due to players leaving this season! Easy ones too like the Liam Delap Ole Ole that everyone joined in with. Morsy song was great when belted out. Broadhead. We've got Super McKenna, still get people singing Ladapo in attack ffs. List goes on. [Post edited 23 Nov 12:36]
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| Portman road atmosphere on 12:35 - Nov 23 with 270 views | stonojnr |
| Portman road atmosphere on 07:21 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
Agree. I genuinely think everyone has been spoilt or that they think football should always be like the last two years.
Boos at the end yesterday! Cmon. |
that was ridiculous wasnt it, I get people were disappointed and frustrated but booing after that, absolute entitled idiots. | | | |
| Portman road atmosphere on 12:38 - Nov 23 with 265 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Portman road atmosphere on 12:18 - Nov 23 by Wallingford_Boy |
“It’s to do with acoustics”. Hahahaha. Never heard that one before (excuse the pun). |
You've left out the crucial word "more". As in it's not just about acoustics, but they are a significant factor.
And if you've never heard that before then I don't know what to say really. Maybe "wally's gonna wally". Because the poor acoustics at PR have been talked about since the new North was built. Feck knows where you've been during that time. | |
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| Portman road atmosphere on 12:41 - Nov 23 with 254 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| Portman road atmosphere on 12:00 - Nov 23 by north_stand |
Embarrassing is the only word that sums up the atmosphere yesterday, it’s been poor all season and is only good at away games so far, we have great levels of support each week and i do not want to criticise the time and cost and effort of our fans attending home and away as our fans are great supporters but the majority are not supporting the team with singing and trying to lift the team as we have always done in the past, there are lots of fans who want to sing as I have witnessed it in the west stand and the churchmans this season but the songs start in the north stand or blue action and get handfuls of fans in the other stands trying to join in and getting their sections going but no one else takes up the chants and it falls flat and it’s just me tunelessly singing on my own!
For the time being PLEASE get behind the team, make new song to replace the morsy and broady songs and sing your hearts out.
Moving forward there needs to be a joined up approach between the football club, blue action and season ticket holders who want to create an intimidating and fun atmosphere at our ground, perhaps a dedicated singing stand, maybe if the cobbold gets redeveloped this can house these fans who want to stand and sing and increase the capacity using safe standing fold up seats like in the more lively stadiums of the Bundesliga
The excuse of poor acoustics is laughable, but if that stand is redeveloped it should be built to enhance the acoustics, with a stand that will drown out the away fans I feel the rest of the stadium will join in with the singing more |
Agree with most of that and there are some points in the thread that have some merit.
On acoutsics, it has to be a part of the problem. With 2 tier stands, we often have attempts to start songs but fans who want to sing are all fragmneted. SBR Upper, SBR Lower and Block A often cant hear each other from the different tiers. By the time you hear what's being sung, its often fizzling out.
I do think that some fans would sing but dont know the words. Are we too proud to have a songs tab on TWTD so that as songs evlove, the lyrics are kept up to date?
A single tier of safe standing in a new stand for the more vocal fans would be great, but that could be years away if its ever possible. Could any clever relaying of songs between tiers (using technology) help? I dont know if anywhere has tried such a thing?
Just appealing for fans to sing more has been done thousands of times, and its not working. | |
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| Portman road atmosphere on 12:43 - Nov 23 with 252 views | stonojnr |
| Portman road atmosphere on 07:29 - Nov 23 by Benters |
The North stand has never been as good since the rebuilding of it.Because of the road and houses outside it couldn’t have been a big old continuous stand either down to space.
Not only that but there are three other stands do they ever pipe up ?
Like I said In another thread yesterday I believe,I think we all thought yesterday would have been a goal fest and Wrexham would have been a easy home win. |
well it could have been a continous stand, there was the space to do that, the current one doesnt use all the space it could. but for various reasons, cost, time, capacity they went for the lets just put another level on top of the old one and like alot of things in that era of the club didnt think too long & hard about it.
but its done now, its not going to change anytime soon, and I could hear the north quite loudly when they wanted to sing, they certainly were making noise when walton was taking time at goal kicks. so is it really that big a problem ? or are we just not that noisy a group of fans anymore.? | | | |
| Portman road atmosphere on 12:45 - Nov 23 with 248 views | stonojnr |
| Portman road atmosphere on 08:34 - Nov 23 by WestSussexBlue |
Were there seriously idiots booing yesterday? |
yep, they were unironically/ironically louder in SAR than any of them had actually been supporting the team during the game. | | | |
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