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I won't be posting anything on here again. I've been accused of being a Norwich fan (I'm not) being on drugs (I'm not) being on my period (I'm not) I've supported Town since 1978 when I was just 8 years old. I've been up and down the country through thick and thin. My views are my own, yes I believe o'shea is awful, yes I believe that the instruction to play out from the back even though our defenders don't have the ability to do so is wrong. I think Kieran Mckenna is a lovely guy whose heart is in the right place but I also believe that egeli and philogene would benifit from getting the ball played to them earlier rather than waiting until two or three defenders are marking them. I can't support another team, Ipswich are part of me. The happy clappers can carry on defending results like tonight's. Good luck.
A point of order, though. Lewblu said Dara O'Shea is the worst player he's ever seen in a town shirt, has been watching since 1978, and conveniently forgets the likes of Graham Harbey, Adam Proudlock and Vemund Brekke Skard to name just 3 far worse players.
If OP chooses to bait posters with hyperbole, what do they expect to get by way of responses?
I'm all for reasonable debate. I've laid some criticisms down about the game and a couple of individual performances last night, but I don't choose to cry tragedy like the OP did.
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I didn't think Graham Harbey was that bad but now I come to think of it I'm not sure if I'm getting him mixed up with David Hill - that was our other full back at the time, wasn't it ? I'm not getting him mixed up with the guitarist out of Slade, am I ?
I know you struggle with many concepts on here, but the op is about posting an opinion and not getting a barrage of abuse. It's not about me.
You are a main proponent why many just don't bother expressing themselves on here. Again, nowt to de with me.
If you and a fellow mass-downvoter on this thread and one or two others allowed folk to express their thoughts without the usual insults, put-downs and down-votes, we'd get a wider and deeper debate. But, I guess, unfortunately, that won't happen.
Please list these people who don't post because of me. Or is it all in your head?
The problem is you want YOUR views, or views you agree with, to be aired AND NOT CHALLENGED. It's actually you who don't want freedom of expression. You who doesn't want debate.
I don't post 'barrages of abuse'. I'm sure Phil would agree (hence why he's never banned me). I didn't invent the downvote, but it's a quick and easy way to show you don't agree with something.
If you, or the OP, or anyone, don't want their views challenged, then don't post challenging views. If you really want debate then you ought to be able to stand by and successfully defend your views.
Please list these people who don't post because of me. Or is it all in your head?
The problem is you want YOUR views, or views you agree with, to be aired AND NOT CHALLENGED. It's actually you who don't want freedom of expression. You who doesn't want debate.
I don't post 'barrages of abuse'. I'm sure Phil would agree (hence why he's never banned me). I didn't invent the downvote, but it's a quick and easy way to show you don't agree with something.
If you, or the OP, or anyone, don't want their views challenged, then don't post challenging views. If you really want debate then you ought to be able to stand by and successfully defend your views.
you know how childish and vindictive it is to 'challenge' my every post on this thread, and, then add a downvote. Come on, you're middle-aged man!
Struggling in a debate, not getting your way and then throwing a tantrum is a regular occurrence for you.
Certainly, not many would agree that O'Shea is our worst player, but insulting a poster is justified, really?
So my view is that anybody should be free to express what they like without being insulted. In return, you have a written a ton of posts opposing this - with the accompanying , classy, downvotes. Well, at least, we know where you stand.
you know how childish and vindictive it is to 'challenge' my every post on this thread, and, then add a downvote. Come on, you're middle-aged man!
Struggling in a debate, not getting your way and then throwing a tantrum is a regular occurrence for you.
Certainly, not many would agree that O'Shea is our worst player, but insulting a poster is justified, really?
So my view is that anybody should be free to express what they like without being insulted. In return, you have a written a ton of posts opposing this - with the accompanying , classy, downvotes. Well, at least, we know where you stand.
Hey flash is a good egg. Of a few posters who challenge certain views. Hes the most placid. Emotional granted but in general you can always go to to toe with flash and enjoy a good debate.
Sorry I downvoted you by mistake. Meant to up vote you. Agree with a lot of what you say. This forum has a herd mentality to it. And you can name the same ones all the time who pounce on people on here if one starts. Bunch of bullies behind keyboards, doubtless not so tough in the flesh. You shouldn’t let them get you down. Most are probably of school age or lead very boring lives in reality.
you know how childish and vindictive it is to 'challenge' my every post on this thread, and, then add a downvote. Come on, you're middle-aged man!
Struggling in a debate, not getting your way and then throwing a tantrum is a regular occurrence for you.
Certainly, not many would agree that O'Shea is our worst player, but insulting a poster is justified, really?
So my view is that anybody should be free to express what they like without being insulted. In return, you have a written a ton of posts opposing this - with the accompanying , classy, downvotes. Well, at least, we know where you stand.
Orford.... I've checked Lew's original Dara post, and re-read this post and at no point did The Flashing Smile insult Lew. Have I missed something? From where I'm sitting, it seems like you are prodding an innocent bear, here.
you know how childish and vindictive it is to 'challenge' my every post on this thread, and, then add a downvote. Come on, you're middle-aged man!
Struggling in a debate, not getting your way and then throwing a tantrum is a regular occurrence for you.
Certainly, not many would agree that O'Shea is our worst player, but insulting a poster is justified, really?
So my view is that anybody should be free to express what they like without being insulted. In return, you have a written a ton of posts opposing this - with the accompanying , classy, downvotes. Well, at least, we know where you stand.
Hey flash is a good egg. Of a few posters who challenge certain views. Hes the most placid. Emotional granted but in general you can always go to to toe with flash and enjoy a good debate.
He really isn’t. He has downvoted me whatever I say. Herbivore is another. They just jump on certain names. I could list the same old crew over and over.
He really isn’t. He has downvoted me whatever I say. Herbivore is another. They just jump on certain names. I could list the same old crew over and over.
Do you really get that upset over down votes? Really? The voting system is a way to quickly agree or disagree with a comment. It's not an act of war. People need to not be so sensitive.
you know how childish and vindictive it is to 'challenge' my every post on this thread, and, then add a downvote. Come on, you're middle-aged man!
Struggling in a debate, not getting your way and then throwing a tantrum is a regular occurrence for you.
Certainly, not many would agree that O'Shea is our worst player, but insulting a poster is justified, really?
So my view is that anybody should be free to express what they like without being insulted. In return, you have a written a ton of posts opposing this - with the accompanying , classy, downvotes. Well, at least, we know where you stand.
Where have I insulted the poster? Link please.
It's now childish and vindictive to 'challenge' a post? Wowsers. You really don't have courage in your convictions do you? As I said, you want to be able to post stuff and have everyone agree with it without challenge. Laughable.
What has downvoting got to do with age? If you keep posting nonsense I'll keep downvoting it. Try not to cry too much about it.
Do you really get that upset over down votes? Really? The voting system is a way to quickly agree or disagree with a comment. It's not an act of war. People need to not be so sensitive.
No, not at all, but it’s only ever the same few, that’s what I’m saying,they seem to get a kick out of it. It seems like it’s their only power in life. It probably is. Because you couldn’t trust people like that with any power, history has seen where that can lead.
i always laugh at this herd mentality throw about line. if you check the posts on this thread theres several up votes for one side of the thread then there's several downvotes for the other. so there are 2 herds on here.no make that 3 as there are several on here like me who haven't used the arrow function
forensic experts say footers and spruces fingerprints were not found at the scene after the weekends rows
No, not at all, but it’s only ever the same few, that’s what I’m saying,they seem to get a kick out of it. It seems like it’s their only power in life. It probably is. Because you couldn’t trust people like that with any power, history has seen where that can lead.
Well, let them have their perceived power, I say. Let them do what they need to do. Life's too short to get upset over an arrow. Just my opinion, though. I wouldn't let them spoil your day.
He really isn’t. He has downvoted me whatever I say. Herbivore is another. They just jump on certain names. I could list the same old crew over and over.
No, I only downvote stuff I disgree with, or downright nonsense, whoever it is. Post something good and I'll be delighted to give you an up arrow.
Do you really get that upset over down votes? Really? The voting system is a way to quickly agree or disagree with a comment. It's not an act of war. People need to not be so sensitive.
Please list these people who don't post because of me. Or is it all in your head?
The problem is you want YOUR views, or views you agree with, to be aired AND NOT CHALLENGED. It's actually you who don't want freedom of expression. You who doesn't want debate.
I don't post 'barrages of abuse'. I'm sure Phil would agree (hence why he's never banned me). I didn't invent the downvote, but it's a quick and easy way to show you don't agree with something.
If you, or the OP, or anyone, don't want their views challenged, then don't post challenging views. If you really want debate then you ought to be able to stand by and successfully defend your views.
Re your first para - I know of one; wasn't a troll or anything else objectionable - tho they did come back a couple of months later.
you know how childish and vindictive it is to 'challenge' my every post on this thread, and, then add a downvote. Come on, you're middle-aged man!
Struggling in a debate, not getting your way and then throwing a tantrum is a regular occurrence for you.
Certainly, not many would agree that O'Shea is our worst player, but insulting a poster is justified, really?
So my view is that anybody should be free to express what they like without being insulted. In return, you have a written a ton of posts opposing this - with the accompanying , classy, downvotes. Well, at least, we know where you stand.
Do you live in Orford? It’s such a nice chilled out place.
the point is that the (constant and unnecessary) insults, put-downs and down-arrows from the same old posters is unwarranted. Why do they stifle debate and take any viewpoint other than theirs as a personal affront?
Your conduct on this thread has been a shining example of how to engage in constructive debate. Kudos to you, friend.
There was lots of constructive criticism after the game yesterday, and almost everyone on here agrees that it was a pretty poor performance and result, but the posters who got the stick for it are the ones who posted the way OTT nonsense such as the OP.
Anyone can have an opinion, but equally, people will challenge that opinion if they disagree with it. Pretty basic stuff really.
The poster who has decided to educate us all on how to debate on the internet is very much of the free speech brigade that thinks people should be allowed to express terrible opinions but people shouldn't be allowed to express the opinion that someone has expressed a terrible opinion. It's free speech for certain people only and censorship for everyone else effectively, and delivered in a way that ironically is the poster in question doing a ramped up version of what they accuse others of doing.
He really isn’t. He has downvoted me whatever I say. Herbivore is another. They just jump on certain names. I could list the same old crew over and over.
I down vote the posts of yours that I disagree with. It's really not worth getting upset over, bae.
It does annoy us when people are called Norwich fans when they have negative things to say. But Dara O’Shea being the worst player you've ever seen play for us?that's a bit over the top and people have reacted to that.
I can understand that, but nevertheless there are and have been some very obvious Norwich trolls on here over the years, of that I am as certain as I ever am about anything (i.e. almost but never quite absolutely certain).
I'm NOT speaking about the OP here whose username I can honestly say I've never noticed before, and I must have missed the referred to post last night as I tend to stay off here these days after a poor result on account of the ridiculous/needy/trolling/negative nature of so many posts.
Do you really get that upset over down votes? Really? The voting system is a way to quickly agree or disagree with a comment. It's not an act of war. People need to not be so sensitive.
I enjoy receiving downvotes. In fact, one of my most depressing times on here was when I received an Upvote from DaveU.