| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? 17:01 - Dec 13 with 2042 views | Matt_Netherlands |
Disclaimer: This isn’t a post to slate him (there’s enough of those), but what’s behind his performances this season? His first touch in particular has gone through the floor.
Didn’t seem to have a major injury over the summer?
Not really being asked to play a different way?
Being on international duty messing with his rhythm?
Got a bit full of himself (See Birmingham away)
It’s pretty baffling but he barely even looks like an average championship striker this season.
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| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 17:43 - Dec 13 with 530 views | NedPlimpton |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 17:17 - Dec 13 by Herbivore |
Akpom has been hopeless though, wherever he's played. |
But harsh. He's barely played up top on his own other than a few mins here and there. I'd imagine his mins per goals stats playing as a 9 are pretty decent after the hull away goal |  | | |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 17:44 - Dec 13 with 522 views | gtsb1966 |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 17:42 - Dec 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Maybe. Conspiracy theory mind here.
Hes simply not bothered. Players all around him probably on wages 5 times what hes on.
Now im not saying hes going out purposely not trying. But sub consciously it must be natural to think why the fk should I bother when .... plays sht but gets £££. I can bust a gut and still get... less than him
Its got to happen it football. I know id find it hard to be around people doing the same job knowing they were on thousands more than me no matter how they performed. It wouldn't make me try harder and id probably have a fk it kinda mind |
Sorry but that is the most ridiculous thing posted on this board for a very long while. |  | | |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 17:45 - Dec 13 with 516 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 17:44 - Dec 13 by gtsb1966 |
Sorry but that is the most ridiculous thing posted on this board for a very long while. |
Absolutely. I did say conspiracy mind.
But id love to know the actual reason..... |  |
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| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 17:46 - Dec 13 with 511 views | bournemouthblue |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 17:04 - Dec 13 by Markp68 |
It’s strange isn’t it. For me he’s never been a great striker but worked well within our system but right now he’s failing both in front of goal and in holding the ball up; nothing sticks and he looks nothing like a decent Championship striker. A new no.9 is a must in January |
I don't think his hold up play has ever been that brilliant but as a hard working battering ram that pins sides back, he was always pretty effective
A lot of sides play with a 3 nowadays which probably doesn't help |  |
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| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 18:01 - Dec 13 with 477 views | StokieBlue |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 17:08 - Dec 13 by lazyblue |
Personally think not a lot has changed but after having Delap who was outstanding for us he was always going to be compared |
There was an element of the fanbase who Delap dropped because Hirst apparently suited our style of play better and brought others into the game more effectively.
That view hasn't aged particularly well.
It's a shame but we need a new starting CF in January. If that kicks Hirst on then that's all the better. Still hoping he will come good and we can have two effective CFs.
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| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 18:02 - Dec 13 with 468 views | StokieBlue |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 17:42 - Dec 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Maybe. Conspiracy theory mind here.
Hes simply not bothered. Players all around him probably on wages 5 times what hes on.
Now im not saying hes going out purposely not trying. But sub consciously it must be natural to think why the fk should I bother when .... plays sht but gets £££. I can bust a gut and still get... less than him
Its got to happen it football. I know id find it hard to be around people doing the same job knowing they were on thousands more than me no matter how they performed. It wouldn't make me try harder and id probably have a fk it kinda mind |
Can you not start with the conspiracy theories again please.
It's not helpful.
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| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 18:03 - Dec 13 with 465 views | jasondozzell |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 17:42 - Dec 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Maybe. Conspiracy theory mind here.
Hes simply not bothered. Players all around him probably on wages 5 times what hes on.
Now im not saying hes going out purposely not trying. But sub consciously it must be natural to think why the fk should I bother when .... plays sht but gets £££. I can bust a gut and still get... less than him
Its got to happen it football. I know id find it hard to be around people doing the same job knowing they were on thousands more than me no matter how they performed. It wouldn't make me try harder and id probably have a fk it kinda mind |
If there is one thing George is not, it's unbothered.
Complete tosh.
Stop scapegoating him. He's not why we lost today.
He's a valuable player who works his socks off. |  | | |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 18:06 - Dec 13 with 461 views | LeoMuff |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 17:42 - Dec 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Maybe. Conspiracy theory mind here.
Hes simply not bothered. Players all around him probably on wages 5 times what hes on.
Now im not saying hes going out purposely not trying. But sub consciously it must be natural to think why the fk should I bother when .... plays sht but gets £££. I can bust a gut and still get... less than him
Its got to happen it football. I know id find it hard to be around people doing the same job knowing they were on thousands more than me no matter how they performed. It wouldn't make me try harder and id probably have a fk it kinda mind |
I think it would work the other way, if you want x 5 the salary go score 25 plus in the championship like Szmodics or Akpom. I don’t think he looks like he isn’t trying, just there is little supply from the 10s or midfield. |  |
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| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 18:09 - Dec 13 with 455 views | billlm |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 17:04 - Dec 13 by Herbivore |
The odd half aside he's looked way off it this season. That was embarrassing from him today, he may as well have not been on the pitch. I don't know what's happened but his workrate and touch have dropped off a cliff. His finishing has always been hit and miss to be fair but you could always rely on him to put in a shift and bring others into the game, this season his performances are really hurting us. |
Not a true'r word spoken, |  | | |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 18:10 - Dec 13 with 447 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 18:02 - Dec 13 by StokieBlue |
Can you not start with the conspiracy theories again please.
It's not helpful.
SB |
Pretty much thought that's what the thread is tbh SB. | |
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| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 18:15 - Dec 13 with 429 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 17:12 - Dec 13 by Chris_ITFC |
He’s completely isolated.
Does anyone link up? No. Or play one-twos? No. Or run in behind him? No. |
He needs to hold the ball up to be able to link up with anyone! |  | | |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 18:21 - Dec 13 with 413 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 17:42 - Dec 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Maybe. Conspiracy theory mind here.
Hes simply not bothered. Players all around him probably on wages 5 times what hes on.
Now im not saying hes going out purposely not trying. But sub consciously it must be natural to think why the fk should I bother when .... plays sht but gets £££. I can bust a gut and still get... less than him
Its got to happen it football. I know id find it hard to be around people doing the same job knowing they were on thousands more than me no matter how they performed. It wouldn't make me try harder and id probably have a fk it kinda mind |
Conspiracy theories after a defeat. Hmm…
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| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 18:25 - Dec 13 with 405 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 18:21 - Dec 13 by Chris_ITFC |
Conspiracy theories after a defeat. Hmm…
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Perhaps read my other posts today chris before piping up with your standard old frimmers stuff. I posted in this thread based on the op.
We dont know the reasons. So any thoughts are all conspiracies. [Post edited 13 Dec 18:26]
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| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 18:34 - Dec 13 with 388 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 18:25 - Dec 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Perhaps read my other posts today chris before piping up with your standard old frimmers stuff. I posted in this thread based on the op.
We dont know the reasons. So any thoughts are all conspiracies. [Post edited 13 Dec 18:26]
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Every other reply is based on analysis on the game(s).
Your reply is unfounded slander, based only on your imagination. | |
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| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 21:37 - Dec 13 with 305 views | IpswichTownBlue |
He doesn't seem to have physiologically recovered since the penalty miss at 'boro. [Post edited 13 Dec 21:37]
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| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 23:15 - Dec 13 with 248 views | Matt_Netherlands |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 18:10 - Dec 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Pretty much thought that's what the thread is tbh SB. |
Asking why our main number 9 has had a drop off in form, isn’t designed as a rallying cry for the tin foil hat brigade. | | | |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 23:16 - Dec 13 with 243 views | itfcsuth |
Three words.
Burns, Briadhead, Chaplin. |  | | |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 23:21 - Dec 13 with 233 views | Matt_Netherlands |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 17:42 - Dec 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Maybe. Conspiracy theory mind here.
Hes simply not bothered. Players all around him probably on wages 5 times what hes on.
Now im not saying hes going out purposely not trying. But sub consciously it must be natural to think why the fk should I bother when .... plays sht but gets £££. I can bust a gut and still get... less than him
Its got to happen it football. I know id find it hard to be around people doing the same job knowing they were on thousands more than me no matter how they performed. It wouldn't make me try harder and id probably have a fk it kinda mind |
He signed a new deal in July. Will comfortably be on £20k a week. So who are these players we are paying £100k a week….? | | | |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 23:54 - Dec 13 with 196 views | HighgateBlue |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 18:01 - Dec 13 by StokieBlue |
There was an element of the fanbase who Delap dropped because Hirst apparently suited our style of play better and brought others into the game more effectively.
That view hasn't aged particularly well.
It's a shame but we need a new starting CF in January. If that kicks Hirst on then that's all the better. Still hoping he will come good and we can have two effective CFs.
SB |
There weren't /that/ many of those merchants. They were palpably wrong and it was headscratching stuff at the time. We don't have a striker who's good enough, and that's been clear for long enough. I'm glad there is finally a decent measure of agreement on that finally. |  | | |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 07:30 - Dec 14 with 133 views | NthQldITFC |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 18:03 - Dec 13 by jasondozzell |
If there is one thing George is not, it's unbothered.
Complete tosh.
Stop scapegoating him. He's not why we lost today.
He's a valuable player who works his socks off. |
It's more the opposite really - he looks at times, particularly earlier in the season, like he's trying too hard to be too sharp in his touches and his lay offs and he's perhaps not quite got the skills to do what's asked of him (or what he's been asking of himself) - so he's fked up a lot and now his confidence is shot to bits.
We need to either play a slightly different style up there, or seriously take the heat off him with a new signing or Akpom/Azon taking the bulk of the workload. The pressure on that lone, pivotal role up there is perhaps as much as there is on a goalkeeper, in terms of the risk and consequences of a serious loss of confidence. |  |
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| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 07:34 - Dec 14 with 130 views | BlueOura |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 18:03 - Dec 13 by jasondozzell |
If there is one thing George is not, it's unbothered.
Complete tosh.
Stop scapegoating him. He's not why we lost today.
He's a valuable player who works his socks off. |
Well he certainly didn't yesterday. As others have said he was a statue yesterday, fans will accept lack of goals but not lack of effort. |  | | |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 07:38 - Dec 14 with 126 views | Westcountryblue |
Simple.
When we had Burns and Omari, they had the ability to stretch teams with their genuine width. The way Broadhead played was also allowed Davis play wider.
Our "wingers" currently like to cut in and that causes us to play very narrow football through the centre of the pitch. | | | |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 08:10 - Dec 14 with 90 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 07:38 - Dec 14 by Westcountryblue |
Simple.
When we had Burns and Omari, they had the ability to stretch teams with their genuine width. The way Broadhead played was also allowed Davis play wider.
Our "wingers" currently like to cut in and that causes us to play very narrow football through the centre of the pitch. |
I would never solely blame one player but McAteer has been a big problem for us IMO. Brought in to give us that pace/directness down the right side and he’s looked like a rabbit in the headlights. I think we would all take a fit Burns back tomorrow instead? Blows my mind we went for McAteer (for more money) over Fellows. | | | |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 08:51 - Dec 14 with 58 views | cbower |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 17:07 - Dec 13 by NthQldITFC |
He's too uptight - ball bounces off him and he doesn't gamble getting across his man. Also waits for the ball far too much and defenders just step in front of him. |
Agree with this. Additionally, he just doesn't attack crosses when they come in. If it's right on his head, then fine but his movement in the box is generally poor. |  |
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| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 08:55 - Dec 14 with 54 views | cbower |
| Is there any obvious reason for the drop off from Hirst? on 17:08 - Dec 13 by Marshalls_Mullet |
We had Keifer Moore sharing the load in the promotion season. |
Not really. We got Moore in January following an injury to Hirst against Leicester at Portman Road in late December. Hirst returned for the last few games only. That's not exactly sharing the load. They were only both available at the same time for 2 games I think. | |
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