| Getting back to the football 21:25 - Dec 15 with 1704 views | GlasgowBlue |
YOUR team to play Sheffield Wednesday. Not the team you believe McKenna will play. The one you would pick for this game, and your reasoning behind it.
Walton
Young*
O'Shea
Greaves**
Davis
Nunez***
Cajuste****
Sindre
Szmodics*****
Jaden
Hirst
*A must win game. Young offers far more than Furlong going forward. Not a game for us to be defensive.
**Kipre has been great but Greaves is an £18million signing warming the bench. We have to give him minutes.
***Taylor was great when he came back into the team. His energy and commitment were just what we needed. But recently he's shown why he rarely got a start since signing from Peterborough. I want to see Nunez doing what Hayden Hackney does for Boro. His stats were second only to Hackney in that roile last season.
**** 1) Matusiwa needs a rest. 2) If Matusiwa picks up a booking on Saturday he misses Millwall and Coventry. 3) If we can't beat Sheffield Wednesday without our defensive midfielder then we shouldn't even be talking about promotion.
*****Szmodics adds a bit of fight and bite in the number ten role. Simple as.
Feel free to agree or disagree.
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| Getting back to the football on 21:35 - Dec 15 with 1432 views | FrimleyBlue |
Walton
Furlong
Oshea
Greaves
Davis
Cajuste
Young
Clarke ( instruction to put ball into the box) not pis about with it
Nunez
Philogene
Egeli
Young as azor replacement
Think we need to start bringing egeli in to the forward line earlier than km plans. Hirst not working. Azon neither. He doesn't seem to want to use akpom there so lets go with egeli.
By forward line i mean central. [Post edited 15 Dec 21:38]
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| Getting back to the football on 21:53 - Dec 15 with 1380 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
I would go with this
Walton
Clarke (H)
O'Shea
Kipre
Davis
Nunez
Cajuste
Clarke (This would be Burns if he was fit)
Walle Egeli (in the 10)
Philogene
Hirst. |  |
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| Getting back to the football on 22:11 - Dec 15 with 1344 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Getting back to the football on 21:53 - Dec 15 by Cheltenham_Blue |
I would go with this
Walton
Clarke (H)
O'Shea
Kipre
Davis
Nunez
Cajuste
Clarke (This would be Burns if he was fit)
Walle Egeli (in the 10)
Philogene
Hirst. |
Clarke on the right again? | |
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| Getting back to the football on 22:27 - Dec 15 with 1308 views | football |
Walton
Greaves
O'Shea
Johnson
Davis
Nunez
Cajuste
McAteer
Walle Egeli
Philogene
Hirst. |  | | |
| Getting back to the football on 22:40 - Dec 15 with 1267 views | Garv |
It's should win, not must win.
Walton
Furlong O'Shea Kipre Davis
Matusiwa Cajuste
McAteer Akpom Clarke
Hirst
Don't see why you'd drop Kipre just so you can give Greaves minutes. He's not a striker who needs confidence and minutes. He'll be used when needed, but so far he's not been as good as Kipre.
McAteer, Akpom and Clarke are different cases. They all need some confidence. I am a little uneasy about changing the entire three though.
Azon is similar in needing to be played into form, but if I'm changing the three behind the striker then I'd stick with Hirst. Azon hasn't been good enough when called upon to start, frankly. Worse than the other attackers I've mentioned I'd argue.
We shouldn't need Taylor's bite and intensity. More likely to need Cajuste's creativity and ability to beat players. |  |
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| Getting back to the football on 22:58 - Dec 15 with 1227 views | positivity |
wouldn't mind that at all, my only caveat would be, is szmod ready to start? | |
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| Getting back to the football on 07:53 - Dec 16 with 1041 views | Metal_Hacker |
I'm not sure what side to pick nowadays but I honestly think Azor will get a "rest" this weekend and he'll find himself on the bench so I'd suggest perhaps Taylor and Cajuste or Nunez and Cajuste in midfield
Azor is one booking away from a two game ban , so a booking on Saturday he's out for Cov and Milwall . I'd rather him come on for the last 20 mins Saturday , keep his nose clean and at least start the Cov game and let whatever happens happen and leave the Milwall game to be whatever it is
Other than that , I'd leave the defence as is
The top 4 is a toughy it really is but I'd go -
Hirst
Philo Sammie Egeli (McAteer) is Egeli isn't fit |  |
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| Getting back to the football on 09:09 - Dec 16 with 948 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Getting back to the football on 21:35 - Dec 15 by FrimleyBlue |
Walton
Furlong
Oshea
Greaves
Davis
Cajuste
Young
Clarke ( instruction to put ball into the box) not pis about with it
Nunez
Philogene
Egeli
Young as azor replacement
Think we need to start bringing egeli in to the forward line earlier than km plans. Hirst not working. Azon neither. He doesn't seem to want to use akpom there so lets go with egeli.
By forward line i mean central. [Post edited 15 Dec 21:38]
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Kipre dropped?!
Matusiwa dropped?!
Young in midfield?!
The weakest midfield imaginable of Young and Cajuste.
Hirst dropped and Egeli put up up front?!
This team's just all over the place Frimmers! |  |
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| Getting back to the football on 09:16 - Dec 16 with 928 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
You don't drop Kipre just because Greaves cost more.
And you don't drop Matusiwa.
Re Taylor - "recently he's shown why he rarely got a start..." by recently, you mean one bad game!?
Walton
Furlong O'Shea Kipre Davis
Matusiwa Taylor
Egeli Nunez Philogene
Hirst
This team ought to get at Sheff Weds, get a few goals up, and THEN we can think about resting/saving people from bookings. | |
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| Getting back to the football on 09:30 - Dec 16 with 908 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Your logic on Greaves goes against that on Young (it being a must-win game means the best team surely)!
Walton (I would actually go Palmer if fit)
Young (I don't understand why he isn't playing regularly anyway)
O'Shea
Kipre
Davis
Matusiwa (much as he has struggled recently he is the best we have. If not him, I would play Humphreys)
Taylor (Cajuste is not effective enough and would be far from a good partner for Nunez especially)
Egeli
Nunez
Philogene
Hirst
I would have Humphreys as my first choice change in midfield. Szmodics and Clarke would be lined up to come on with Azon. I would love to have Burns available off the bench too. I would also be making sure the best striker from the U21s is being involved with the match day squad because I would be thinking about involving him before long. There is one who is highly rated isn't there? |  |
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| Getting back to the football on 10:00 - Dec 16 with 870 views | NthQldITFC |
Rest Matusiwa - yes, and avoid a booking before Millwall and hopefully Coventry
Start Greaves - no, but on as a sub if we're two goals up - I see the logic and I still like Greaves for the future but, if changing your most defensive CM, I don't think you change CB as well, even against Wednesday. Also, Kippers is a creative master at the moment and a goal threat!
Nothing against Taylor, but Nunez deeper with Cajuste more advanced ought to work and this is the game to try it in (again?) - also gets the combative Taylor a rest before Millwall/Cov.
Akpom and Hirst with the instruction to interchange a lot more, and, FFS, play a lot closer together off each other.
Assuming Egeli is over his illness:
Walton
Furlong - O'Shea - Kipre - Davis
Cajuste - Nunez(deeper)
Egeli - Akpom - Philogene
Hirst |  |
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| Getting back to the football on 11:41 - Dec 16 with 789 views | JammyDodgerrr |
Walton
Young O'Shea Kipre Davis
Matusiwa Nunez
McAteer Szmodics Philogene
Hirst
Even with the booking thing, we play Matusiwa i think. Agree with Young over Furlong, and Clarke just doesn't work on the right. |  |
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| Getting back to the football on 11:47 - Dec 16 with 775 views | southnorfolkblue |
Walton
Furlong O Shea Kipre Davis
Matusiwa Cajuste
Egeli Nunez Philogene
Hirst
Leicester was a bad day at the office, but broadly speaking this is our strongest 11 imho. Cajuste ahead of Taylor because this game ought to suit him. No need to mess with the back 5 imho | |
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| Getting back to the football on 11:56 - Dec 16 with 743 views | northstandwarky |
Walton
Furlong O'Shea Kipre Davis
Nunez Matusiwa
Sindre Szmodics Jaden
Hirst | | | |
| Getting back to the football on 11:56 - Dec 16 with 741 views | HighgateBlue |
| Getting back to the football on 09:16 - Dec 16 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You don't drop Kipre just because Greaves cost more.
And you don't drop Matusiwa.
Re Taylor - "recently he's shown why he rarely got a start..." by recently, you mean one bad game!?
Walton
Furlong O'Shea Kipre Davis
Matusiwa Taylor
Egeli Nunez Philogene
Hirst
This team ought to get at Sheff Weds, get a few goals up, and THEN we can think about resting/saving people from bookings. |
Agree with every word, and every position.
It's possible that Taylor is just mediocre, and has had a couple of good games. But I think assuming that based on one bad game is unfair. Also, I'm far from sure that Cajuste has done enough to wrestle the starting position off Taylor. I don't think Young is a seriously credible option in CM. That might just leave Nunez as a rival for Taylor in CM, but I think Nunez has to start in the 10. If he doesn't, then I'm not picking SS or Akpom to start, as they just haven't done enough. And picking Egeli at 10, which I'd be really interested in, would be fine if we had a 2021-23 vintage Wes Burns on the right. But I ain't picking McAteer to start on the right, even though he literally cost over a billion pence.
So, sad indictment or otherwise, Taylor should start.
Matusiwa starts if available. I think that's clear. On the back of a performance and result like Leicester, we can't afford to be so arrogant that we can rest players and still get a guaranteed 3 points against any side. Wednesday are poor, but they've still got some fight. And we know that a freak goal can happen at any turn, when there are players with talent, and Wednesday do have a couple. We must play our best team.
Wouldn't be averse to swapping out Furlong for Young if he's showing it in training, but on balance I would keep the ground together. Kipre has earned the starting spot, in my view. Regardless of Greaves' cost, he has not performed as well. I think it's that clear. Nothing against the guy.
Walton had a clanger against Leicester. Any keeper is capable of that, and entitled to that if their work is otherwise sound. His stats this season are streets ahead of Palmer, and indeed most Champ keepers. There's no way he gets dropped for that. Clearly a good apple as well. If that's a saying. Which it's not. |  | | |
| Getting back to the football on 11:59 - Dec 16 with 734 views | Cafe_Newman |
I disagree.
I don't believe it is a must win game.
I don't think it's wise to start with Young in a "must win" game.
I don't think "Young offers far more than Furlong going forward, not unless you're comparing Young from 2010 with Furlong today.
If Kieran picks this team, I think it will be because he feels it isn't a must win game, though he would never say that, of course.
I agree that Sindre should play if he's fit because it's an important to get back to winning ways.
I agree that Greaves should play whether that's in place of Davis or Kipre. |  | | |
| Getting back to the football on 12:07 - Dec 16 with 715 views | NthQldITFC |
| Getting back to the football on 11:59 - Dec 16 by Cafe_Newman |
I disagree.
I don't believe it is a must win game.
I don't think it's wise to start with Young in a "must win" game.
I don't think "Young offers far more than Furlong going forward, not unless you're comparing Young from 2010 with Furlong today.
If Kieran picks this team, I think it will be because he feels it isn't a must win game, though he would never say that, of course.
I agree that Sindre should play if he's fit because it's an important to get back to winning ways.
I agree that Greaves should play whether that's in place of Davis or Kipre. |
I was really disappointed with Young's touch and distribution when he came on last week. He looked nervy - the sort of nervy which comes with age, as he clearly was a top level footballer. I guess he can get on top of those nerves, but he didn't look very athletic to me (which probably drives the nerves as well).
He's the sort of quality footballer who couldeasily prove all of that wrong, but on balance Furlong is the much better option for me (not so much direct threat himself, but his solidity frees up Egeli) and I really don't see Young in CM. At all. | |
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| Getting back to the football on 13:15 - Dec 16 with 620 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Getting back to the football on 09:09 - Dec 16 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Kipre dropped?!
Matusiwa dropped?!
Young in midfield?!
The weakest midfield imaginable of Young and Cajuste.
Hirst dropped and Egeli put up up front?!
This team's just all over the place Frimmers! |
I remember you being vocal about the word dropped. Its rotation
Azor.. stops him missing the Millwall game
Young. Yep fair point but closest player who I think could cover that azor role compared to the actual other cm options we have
Hirst rotated for egeli. Absolutely why not. Both are forwards. One isn't great. The other developing and imo wasted on the right. | |
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| Getting back to the football on 14:13 - Dec 16 with 559 views | BlueBoots |
Just based on the timing of the fixtures, if it wasn't for the fact we're playing Coventry that would be the game you'd be targeting to rest players (6 days between Sheff Wed and Millwall, and 6 days between Millwall and Oxford)
I'd be tempted to do that anyway...strongest side for those 3 fixtures (Millwall have lost 4 games at home this season) and gamble on fresh legs at Coventry. |  |
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| Getting back to the football on 15:02 - Dec 16 with 504 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Getting back to the football on 13:15 - Dec 16 by FrimleyBlue |
I remember you being vocal about the word dropped. Its rotation
Azor.. stops him missing the Millwall game
Young. Yep fair point but closest player who I think could cover that azor role compared to the actual other cm options we have
Hirst rotated for egeli. Absolutely why not. Both are forwards. One isn't great. The other developing and imo wasted on the right. |
I thought we were talking about the best team to beat SW rather than thinking about who we'd rest - we don't really know who needs a rest as we don't see training.
But regardless of what you want to call it, I'd be keeping Kipre and Matisuwa to start (although I undertand why you might leave the latter out. Risky though. We lost our only other game without him, Charlton 0-3).
I'm sure Egeli will play more centrally at some point, but he's said himself he sees that as the 10 not the 9. And although he's coming on strong, he's still very young and inexperienced in this league. He's also definitely not "wasted on the right". | |
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| Getting back to the football on 15:26 - Dec 16 with 479 views | Cafe_Newman |
Walton
Furlong
O'Shea
Kipre
Greaves
Nunez
Cajuste
Walle Egeli
Akpom
Philogene
Hirst [Post edited 16 Dec 15:52]
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| Getting back to the football on 15:33 - Dec 16 with 458 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| Getting back to the football on 11:59 - Dec 16 by Cafe_Newman |
I disagree.
I don't believe it is a must win game.
I don't think it's wise to start with Young in a "must win" game.
I don't think "Young offers far more than Furlong going forward, not unless you're comparing Young from 2010 with Furlong today.
If Kieran picks this team, I think it will be because he feels it isn't a must win game, though he would never say that, of course.
I agree that Sindre should play if he's fit because it's an important to get back to winning ways.
I agree that Greaves should play whether that's in place of Davis or Kipre. |
It all depends on whether we think Sheff W are going to come and sit in a low block or not. We have seen several times this season that Furlong does not offer enough going forwards to play against a low block team. So we need a more attacking outlet, which is currently Young. Of course it would be H Clarke but he's still paying the price for his Sky Sports moon. | |
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| Getting back to the football on 15:58 - Dec 16 with 422 views | Cafe_Newman |
| Getting back to the football on 15:33 - Dec 16 by JammyDodgerrr |
It all depends on whether we think Sheff W are going to come and sit in a low block or not. We have seen several times this season that Furlong does not offer enough going forwards to play against a low block team. So we need a more attacking outlet, which is currently Young. Of course it would be H Clarke but he's still paying the price for his Sky Sports moon. |
I suspect Wednesday will employ the low block the whole match. I'd like to think that might free up our midfield a little more for Cajuste to run a bit and Nunez to feed Walle Egeli, Akpom and Philogene.
It certainly won't be a walk over and if O'Shea, Kipre or Greaves haven't scored from a set piece before 70 minutes, we can expect quite a frustrating day.
I certainly expect Young to get at least 20 minutes game time. | | | |
| Getting back to the football on 17:53 - Dec 16 with 350 views | MK1 |
Walton (Palmer if fit)
Furlong
Kipre
Greaves
Davis
Taylor
Matusiwa
Cajuste
Philogene
Nunez
Egeli
I want 3 in the middle. |  |
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| Getting back to the football on 18:55 - Dec 16 with 291 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Getting back to the football on 09:16 - Dec 16 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You don't drop Kipre just because Greaves cost more.
And you don't drop Matusiwa.
Re Taylor - "recently he's shown why he rarely got a start..." by recently, you mean one bad game!?
Walton
Furlong O'Shea Kipre Davis
Matusiwa Taylor
Egeli Nunez Philogene
Hirst
This team ought to get at Sheff Weds, get a few goals up, and THEN we can think about resting/saving people from bookings. |
Would be exactly my pick. Think it’s pretty much our strongest/best performing 11. Give them as much game time together as possible and help them gel.
I really hope we learned a lesson from the Charlton debacle. It could massively backfire if we rest a lot of players and disrespect Weds. They may be a bit cr@p, and nailed on for relegation, but fair play they still seem up for a fight and aren’t getting completely smashed every week. | | | |
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