| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) 17:16 - Dec 26 with 2421 views | jasondozzell |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 19:02 - Dec 26 with 665 views | blueislander |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 18:52 - Dec 26 by pointofblue |
True, but that results in over-achievement and under-achievement, and the subsequent praise or criticism which will come because of it. |
I would agree that certain players,,and the team in general are not fulfilling their potential. Despite this we are very much in the promotion race. This is the positive I take, and would love to see supporters recognise this rather than rant about the money that has been spent Having sold players for very large sums, the selling clubs naturally drove hard bargains. |  | | |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 19:05 - Dec 26 with 658 views | JammyDodgerrr |
Drawn away at a top 6 rival, clean sheet, no injuries, Burns is back, basically all results went our way. Not even remotely a bad result. |  |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 19:07 - Dec 26 with 651 views | itfcsuth |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 18:48 - Dec 26 by Ryorry |
If the £££££££££ spent were the most important factor, there’d be no point in actually playing any games - might as well compare the balance sheets & award the automatic promotion slots to the two biggest net spenders. |
Whilst that is 100%.
The balance of that of course is that when you invested in a squad it is obviously to improve, especially when you invest heavily in the squad.
It’s not to go backwards, we are undoubtedly a worse team than 22/23, that is inevitably going to bring frustrations from fans when the investment was made to make us a better side than the one it replaced. |  | | |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 19:07 - Dec 26 with 647 views | pointofblue |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 19:02 - Dec 26 by blueislander |
I would agree that certain players,,and the team in general are not fulfilling their potential. Despite this we are very much in the promotion race. This is the positive I take, and would love to see supporters recognise this rather than rant about the money that has been spent Having sold players for very large sums, the selling clubs naturally drove hard bargains. |
Being harsh, the downside is we're struggling to break into the top two, or create a gap of any kind, on what is such a mediocre division this season.
Being positive - look at Leicester and Southampton's struggles. We're still third and right in the mix as we enter the new year. | |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 19:49 - Dec 26 with 602 views | SomethingBlue |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 18:21 - Dec 26 by blueoutlook |
We are a bunch of overpaid,overpriced lightweights. |
It really is a competition to find new ways to express hatred for our side at the moment, isn't it. It's possible to (a) think things can be better and (b) find the way people are talking absolutely extraordinary.
Not sure I've seen much like it in 35 years watching Town, given the context. It's deeply weird. | |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 19:55 - Dec 26 with 579 views | blueoutlook |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 19:01 - Dec 26 by BloomBlue |
Typical entitled fan 'we spent millions so we're entitled to win every game'
Same as Liverpool fans, we spent transfer recors on two strikers so we're entitled to expect them each to score 100 goals. |
It’s called expectation. If you spend that kind of money then you expect better. When we spent nothing years back you weren’t expecting anything but cr@p. Now we spend £150 million and it’s utter cr@p for the money. McKenna has nearly been rubbish for as long as he was any good as well whilst we are at it. |  | | |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 19:57 - Dec 26 with 566 views | blueoutlook |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 19:49 - Dec 26 by SomethingBlue |
It really is a competition to find new ways to express hatred for our side at the moment, isn't it. It's possible to (a) think things can be better and (b) find the way people are talking absolutely extraordinary.
Not sure I've seen much like it in 35 years watching Town, given the context. It's deeply weird. |
True though , no ? You can’t dress it up, it’s been bl0ody rubbish for the best part
of 20 months now and we have spent a small fortune producing sweet fa in that time. | | | |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 20:00 - Dec 26 with 553 views | SomethingBlue |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 19:57 - Dec 26 by blueoutlook |
True though , no ? You can’t dress it up, it’s been bl0ody rubbish for the best part
of 20 months now and we have spent a small fortune producing sweet fa in that time. |
I've seen rubbish and it's very far from this. We are third in the Championship with a decent chance of going up. The thirst to whip up drama and strife is very strange indeed. I guess it's just addled modern brains. | |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 20:07 - Dec 26 with 527 views | blueoutlook |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 20:00 - Dec 26 by SomethingBlue |
I've seen rubbish and it's very far from this. We are third in the Championship with a decent chance of going up. The thirst to whip up drama and strife is very strange indeed. I guess it's just addled modern brains. |
I’ve watched us since 1976 and yes, there has been some rubbish,but we never spent this kind of money to produce this much rubbish. Third only because the league is dire. The money our manger is on and the team cost is crazy for what we are being served up. 20 months of pretty poor stuff. McKenna has nearly been bad as long as he was good now. | | | |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 20:08 - Dec 26 with 516 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Neither are our fans ? The season is obviously not over.
That doesn’t change the fact that we aren’t very good and have hardly played well this season. Aside from Cov who are miles off the standard of Leeds Leicester Ipswich Saints Burnley of the last few years imo there is such a lack of quality in this division.
We may well get top 2 this season and I hope we do but i don’t understand this clamour for relentless positivity after another subpar performance. [Post edited 26 Dec 20:22]
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 20:10 - Dec 26 with 502 views | SomethingBlue |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 20:07 - Dec 26 by blueoutlook |
I’ve watched us since 1976 and yes, there has been some rubbish,but we never spent this kind of money to produce this much rubbish. Third only because the league is dire. The money our manger is on and the team cost is crazy for what we are being served up. 20 months of pretty poor stuff. McKenna has nearly been bad as long as he was good now. |
For what we have spent we should be in the top three or four I agree. I'd also like us to be a few points better off and would also question some of the recruitment. It is not all rosy by a long chalk.
But I'd also question the utter obsession with money and what stuff has cost. Very modern indeed. It'd be quite nice to step back and consider that we are watching a promotion chasing Town side for the second time in three seasons and are going to have a real crack at it. Wasn't something we'd bargained for four years ago! Yet people seem angrier than ever. I can't get away from finding it very weird. | |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 20:17 - Dec 26 with 472 views | blueoutlook |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 20:10 - Dec 26 by SomethingBlue |
For what we have spent we should be in the top three or four I agree. I'd also like us to be a few points better off and would also question some of the recruitment. It is not all rosy by a long chalk.
But I'd also question the utter obsession with money and what stuff has cost. Very modern indeed. It'd be quite nice to step back and consider that we are watching a promotion chasing Town side for the second time in three seasons and are going to have a real crack at it. Wasn't something we'd bargained for four years ago! Yet people seem angrier than ever. I can't get away from finding it very weird. |
My problem is Im from the era where we didn’t spend any money,so seeing this sort of money spent and what we are being served up on the pitch I find unacceptable. I saw the great teams,they weren’t paid anything like today but they had passion. Looking at this lot they haven’t got that at all. That’s what really grinds my gears. They don’t play for the badge or seem to even have any urgency. I could put up with it if I saw a bit of heart,but I don’t see it. And don’t get me started on the captain, no leadership there I can see on the pitch at all! | | | |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 20:20 - Dec 26 with 467 views | ITFCSG |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 20:10 - Dec 26 by SomethingBlue |
For what we have spent we should be in the top three or four I agree. I'd also like us to be a few points better off and would also question some of the recruitment. It is not all rosy by a long chalk.
But I'd also question the utter obsession with money and what stuff has cost. Very modern indeed. It'd be quite nice to step back and consider that we are watching a promotion chasing Town side for the second time in three seasons and are going to have a real crack at it. Wasn't something we'd bargained for four years ago! Yet people seem angrier than ever. I can't get away from finding it very weird. |
That's the reality of the modern game.
What is most infuriating is we seem to spend tens, if not hundred + million buying players that seem no better than the ones they replaced.
Plus people watch football to be entertained. The majority of performances this season has been sideways and backwards walking football that basically gives supporters little to get excited about. Don't believe? Get a neutral to watch a game (preferable one that is away) and see what they say | | | |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 20:44 - Dec 26 with 416 views | BloomBlue |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 20:20 - Dec 26 by ITFCSG |
That's the reality of the modern game.
What is most infuriating is we seem to spend tens, if not hundred + million buying players that seem no better than the ones they replaced.
Plus people watch football to be entertained. The majority of performances this season has been sideways and backwards walking football that basically gives supporters little to get excited about. Don't believe? Get a neutral to watch a game (preferable one that is away) and see what they say |
So if we played nonstop attacking football, lost 3-0 every game but it was fantastic entertainment you would be happy and wouldn't moan?
Let me think about that, do bears shlt in the woods.... |  | | |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 20:57 - Dec 26 with 396 views | pointofblue |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 20:44 - Dec 26 by BloomBlue |
So if we played nonstop attacking football, lost 3-0 every game but it was fantastic entertainment you would be happy and wouldn't moan?
Let me think about that, do bears shlt in the woods.... |
Are they the only options? Be entertaining and lose 3-0 or be dull and scrape wins? | |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 21:15 - Dec 26 with 363 views | ITFCSG |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 20:44 - Dec 26 by BloomBlue |
So if we played nonstop attacking football, lost 3-0 every game but it was fantastic entertainment you would be happy and wouldn't moan?
Let me think about that, do bears shlt in the woods.... |
B0ll0cks. As a parachute club playing non-stop attacking football in the Championship there is no way we'd lose 3-0 every game.
And its not as if our walking football is churning out fantastic results commensurate with having the highest paid manager and most expensive squad in the entire EFL.
What most supporters want to see besides exciting football is players having passion for the club and team. Having leaders on the pitch and shoving it in the opponent's faces. Looking at the current team, we have none. Plenty of players seem happy just to turn up and go through the motions week in week out. | | | |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 21:18 - Dec 26 with 350 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 20:08 - Dec 26 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Neither are our fans ? The season is obviously not over.
That doesn’t change the fact that we aren’t very good and have hardly played well this season. Aside from Cov who are miles off the standard of Leeds Leicester Ipswich Saints Burnley of the last few years imo there is such a lack of quality in this division.
We may well get top 2 this season and I hope we do but i don’t understand this clamour for relentless positivity after another subpar performance. [Post edited 26 Dec 20:22]
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Louder for those at the back, no one is giving up, we all see how crap the league is. We also see our a lot of our subpar performances. So will probably talk about them! [Post edited 26 Dec 21:19]
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 21:20 - Dec 26 with 343 views | itfc48 |
Their next 3 games should have been made a lot harder…
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 21:52 - Dec 26 with 286 views | BloomBlue |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 21:15 - Dec 26 by ITFCSG |
B0ll0cks. As a parachute club playing non-stop attacking football in the Championship there is no way we'd lose 3-0 every game.
And its not as if our walking football is churning out fantastic results commensurate with having the highest paid manager and most expensive squad in the entire EFL.
What most supporters want to see besides exciting football is players having passion for the club and team. Having leaders on the pitch and shoving it in the opponent's faces. Looking at the current team, we have none. Plenty of players seem happy just to turn up and go through the motions week in week out. |
Once again you haven't answered the question.
Instead you just type a load of b0ll0cks.
You said you want all out attacking entertaining football, as normalnyoj then tweak it. I'll ask the question again, If we played all out attacking entertaining football and lost every game, would you moan?
Let me think, do bears shlt in the woods???
What most fans want is a team winning games. | | | |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 22:05 - Dec 26 with 260 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 17:24 - Dec 26 by BloomBlue |
A lot less entitled fans than Town. |
Yeah because we are in exactly the same positions as a football club! | |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 22:09 - Dec 26 with 256 views | itfcsuth |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 20:08 - Dec 26 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Neither are our fans ? The season is obviously not over.
That doesn’t change the fact that we aren’t very good and have hardly played well this season. Aside from Cov who are miles off the standard of Leeds Leicester Ipswich Saints Burnley of the last few years imo there is such a lack of quality in this division.
We may well get top 2 this season and I hope we do but i don’t understand this clamour for relentless positivity after another subpar performance. [Post edited 26 Dec 20:22]
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Very good post, capsulises my thoughts as to where we are currently in a single post.
The standard is awful this year (Cov aside), and we are extremely lucky for that to be the case. The league is shít this year, we’ve just been one of the better shít teams so far. | | | |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 22:20 - Dec 26 with 234 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 22:09 - Dec 26 by itfcsuth |
Very good post, capsulises my thoughts as to where we are currently in a single post.
The standard is awful this year (Cov aside), and we are extremely lucky for that to be the case. The league is shít this year, we’ve just been one of the better shít teams so far. |
Indeed!
I actually watched Boro second half today and their fans were a bit frustrated and groany as well, they looked poor. Their expectations were not like ours either.
If this keeps up someone random like Watford might on a run and get second. | |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 22:23 - Dec 26 with 218 views | Churchman |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 19:49 - Dec 26 by SomethingBlue |
It really is a competition to find new ways to express hatred for our side at the moment, isn't it. It's possible to (a) think things can be better and (b) find the way people are talking absolutely extraordinary.
Not sure I've seen much like it in 35 years watching Town, given the context. It's deeply weird. |
Yep. They ramp it up after every disastrous defeat like today. In summary:
1. Over priced, overpaid players
2. Useless manager that can only play one way
3. Ashton signings wasting money. Money money money, £600m hosed up the wall. That made up figure is just as accurate as some of the ‘mummy where’s my milky drink’ boys.
4. Players don’t care
5. Walking football
6. We’ve only beating teams through luck or they’re deadbeat teams. Worst Championship ever. Really? We’ve only been in it 1.5 seasons in the last 7 years or so and it was a much worse standard 10 years ago. I know, I saw it.
7. Get rid of McKenna
8. Get rid of Ashton
9. We should sell Egeli, Clarke and Philogene at any price and cut our losses
10. Not interested in rebuilding the club’s infrastructure, just want a team that wins 5-0 every week like two seasons ago and plays like Brazil 1970
Sane supporters are being driven off this forum by nappy cr@pping entitled people. We might have decent numbers turning out, but too high a percentage of our support, especially the keyboard warriors, are clueless. We have some of the worst support in the country and don’t tell me it’s worse at other clubs. It isn’t and the outright cowardly nastiness shown to some players and collectively couldn’t be more depressing and less helpful if it tried.
No memory of how long it took to build the 22/23, no idea how football works. Just hatred and venting bile. Anything encouraging or positive? Not here, not this club. What a dreadful environment for existing players and if you were playing for another club and your agent was approached, why would you come here if there was chance of a good club like Portsmouth or Stoke as an alternative?
You are right. It’s very weird seeing so many people on here hating this club and wanting it to fail. I’ve followed ITFC a very long time and never seen anything near this. And I’ve seen what’s really bad, including the near loss of this club just a few years ago.
Robson, Ramsey and the Cobbolds must be turning in their graves. |  | | |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 22:57 - Dec 26 with 145 views | itfcsuth |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 22:23 - Dec 26 by Churchman |
Yep. They ramp it up after every disastrous defeat like today. In summary:
1. Over priced, overpaid players
2. Useless manager that can only play one way
3. Ashton signings wasting money. Money money money, £600m hosed up the wall. That made up figure is just as accurate as some of the ‘mummy where’s my milky drink’ boys.
4. Players don’t care
5. Walking football
6. We’ve only beating teams through luck or they’re deadbeat teams. Worst Championship ever. Really? We’ve only been in it 1.5 seasons in the last 7 years or so and it was a much worse standard 10 years ago. I know, I saw it.
7. Get rid of McKenna
8. Get rid of Ashton
9. We should sell Egeli, Clarke and Philogene at any price and cut our losses
10. Not interested in rebuilding the club’s infrastructure, just want a team that wins 5-0 every week like two seasons ago and plays like Brazil 1970
Sane supporters are being driven off this forum by nappy cr@pping entitled people. We might have decent numbers turning out, but too high a percentage of our support, especially the keyboard warriors, are clueless. We have some of the worst support in the country and don’t tell me it’s worse at other clubs. It isn’t and the outright cowardly nastiness shown to some players and collectively couldn’t be more depressing and less helpful if it tried.
No memory of how long it took to build the 22/23, no idea how football works. Just hatred and venting bile. Anything encouraging or positive? Not here, not this club. What a dreadful environment for existing players and if you were playing for another club and your agent was approached, why would you come here if there was chance of a good club like Portsmouth or Stoke as an alternative?
You are right. It’s very weird seeing so many people on here hating this club and wanting it to fail. I’ve followed ITFC a very long time and never seen anything near this. And I’ve seen what’s really bad, including the near loss of this club just a few years ago.
Robson, Ramsey and the Cobbolds must be turning in their graves. |
What a load of nonsense.
The push for positivity to suggest that we are anywhere near where we would want and need to be is utterly delusional.
We’ve spent £150m+ to go backwards as a football club over 2 years, I don’t think it’s unreasonable for supporters to have frustrations about that.
If you love the football club you want to see progression, not regression. | | | |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 23:00 - Dec 26 with 138 views | waveneyblue |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 19:49 - Dec 26 by SomethingBlue |
It really is a competition to find new ways to express hatred for our side at the moment, isn't it. It's possible to (a) think things can be better and (b) find the way people are talking absolutely extraordinary.
Not sure I've seen much like it in 35 years watching Town, given the context. It's deeply weird. |
You would think, but to try to express that view to the knuckle draggers that fill social media is impossible.
Im with you, Ive been a fan for nearly 40 years and Ive never known it like this.
But, as im pretty sure youve said before... its the modern way of thinking, I want it all, I want it now .... adding being sh1t thick to the mix and here we are. |  | | |
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