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What a load of nonsense.
The push for positivity to suggest that we are anywhere near where we would want and need to be is utterly delusional.
We’ve spent £150m+ to go backwards as a football club over 2 years, I don’t think it’s unreasonable for supporters to have frustrations about that.
If you love the football club you want to see progression, not regression. |
But we've not gone backwards as a football club over the last two years surely. We've gone forwards. That's so clearly the case.
I just do not understand how people are forgetting what things were really like here for the best part of twenty years before that.
People saying we were terrible to watch today. It's insane - have they erased the Mick crab football period followed by Colin Quaner up front cut off from team mates?
We're 5 points off where we want to be! [Post edited 26 Dec 2025 23:07]
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But we've not gone backwards as a football club over the last two years surely. We've gone forwards. That's so clearly the case.
I just do not understand how people are forgetting what things were really like here for the best part of twenty years before that.
People saying we were terrible to watch today. It's insane - have they erased the Mick crab football period followed by Colin Quaner up front cut off from team mates?
We're 5 points off where we want to be! [Post edited 26 Dec 2025 23:07]
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Nobody has forgot any of that.
I think this narrative was ok for last season. First crack at the prem in 2 decades after a rapid rise. Club clearly not ready for the prem so being critical was a lot of the time misplaced.
This season I don’t think there is anything wrong with people on a fans forum discussing the performances which have largely been pretty poor ? Nobody should be declaring Armageddon but we cannot keep saying well we were really bad for 20 years so you can’t point out we’ve not been playing well. |  |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 23:06 - Dec 26 by jasondozzell |
But we've not gone backwards as a football club over the last two years surely. We've gone forwards. That's so clearly the case.
I just do not understand how people are forgetting what things were really like here for the best part of twenty years before that.
People saying we were terrible to watch today. It's insane - have they erased the Mick crab football period followed by Colin Quaner up front cut off from team mates?
We're 5 points off where we want to be! [Post edited 26 Dec 2025 23:07]
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How can we be perceived to have gone forwards. At this point 2 years ago we were a side that was truly on the up, a side the was an absolute joy to watch, we were exciting, we were connected to the team, the team were connected to each other, it was the absolute perfect mixture of everything you need to be a successful side, we had quality, chemistry, mentality and most importantly consistency.
We sat 2nd in the league squeezed between Leicester and Leeds, we sat 7 points ahead of Leeds on 52 points, 14 ahead of ourselves now, and more than anyone else in the division this year. The league is drastically worse this time around.
That team went on to secure promotion the Premier League, they literally broke the door down financially for this football club, changing the entire landscape of where this football club sits in the pyramid.
2 years later we are back in the Championship, we look a distinctly average side, a lack of cohesion, a lack of chemistry, a lack in mentality and ultimately more often than not a lack of quality, whilst making an investment of over £150m.
In its simplest form, we’ve spent £150m+ to be a worse team than a promoted League 1 side, I would suggest imo that is going backwards, and in dramatic fashion. |  | | |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 22:57 - Dec 26 by itfcsuth |
What a load of nonsense.
The push for positivity to suggest that we are anywhere near where we would want and need to be is utterly delusional.
We’ve spent £150m+ to go backwards as a football club over 2 years, I don’t think it’s unreasonable for supporters to have frustrations about that.
If you love the football club you want to see progression, not regression. |
Nonsense? Well that’s your view.
By what definition have we gone ‘backwards as a football club over 2 years’? Two years ago what was the club worth? What did the football ground look like or the training ground come to that? What were the players worth then? What are they worth now? The club is not regressing. The team may not be delivering what we all hoped for but if it was as easy as FM25 why employ McKenna when they can employ you or others with equal keyboard expertise?
The only important thing that’s gone backwards is the hatred of people towards it which has never been higher. They most certainly do not love the football club. Nor do those who boo off a subbed CF and riddle a keeper when his name is announced.
The disconnect between it and the likes of you, assuming you are a supporter and not following Leicester like that other poster, is total. Fine. It’s a free country. You enjoy your piling in. You are not alone.
Where have I or the few posters that have yet to be driven away said that we are near where we want to be? None. Some, more sensible people offer suggestions, look at the club analytically and look for encouragement. Is that delusional? Others only appear on here when we don’t win and play well to offer only derision and hate.
Why use fees time and again to beat the players and management up with all the time? It’s not down to the players and it’s not your money that’s been spent. The figures thrown in the air are not even accurate but who cares eh? |  | | |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 23:23 - Dec 26 by itfcsuth |
How can we be perceived to have gone forwards. At this point 2 years ago we were a side that was truly on the up, a side the was an absolute joy to watch, we were exciting, we were connected to the team, the team were connected to each other, it was the absolute perfect mixture of everything you need to be a successful side, we had quality, chemistry, mentality and most importantly consistency.
We sat 2nd in the league squeezed between Leicester and Leeds, we sat 7 points ahead of Leeds on 52 points, 14 ahead of ourselves now, and more than anyone else in the division this year. The league is drastically worse this time around.
That team went on to secure promotion the Premier League, they literally broke the door down financially for this football club, changing the entire landscape of where this football club sits in the pyramid.
2 years later we are back in the Championship, we look a distinctly average side, a lack of cohesion, a lack of chemistry, a lack in mentality and ultimately more often than not a lack of quality, whilst making an investment of over £150m.
In its simplest form, we’ve spent £150m+ to be a worse team than a promoted League 1 side, I would suggest imo that is going backwards, and in dramatic fashion. |
I would say it's better to say it's going forwards off the pitch, slight step back on the pitch but with a promising future ahead
Many 'issues' at the moment, but we're third, you don't get to third if things are terrible. Is it like 23, no.
But, we're moving forwards, you can see things progressing in certain areas, some things aren't but that's where Jan should help us. |  |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 18:23 - Dec 26 by blueoutlook |
What ?! We spent a blo0dy fortune or have you forgotten? |
Money doesn’t guarantee performances. The league is littered with clubs who blew parachute payments, while we went up having spent very little (on transfers at least). So it seems your memory needs a bit of a nudge too ;)
It’s also a bit crass looking down on other clubs and expecting us to be superior purely because we have more money. It doesn’t feel very Ipswichy to me. Let’s realise we need to work harder if we want to go up and recognise other teams’ efforts if they’re doing better than us. |  |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 23:40 - Dec 26 by Swansea_Blue |
Money doesn’t guarantee performances. The league is littered with clubs who blew parachute payments, while we went up having spent very little (on transfers at least). So it seems your memory needs a bit of a nudge too ;)
It’s also a bit crass looking down on other clubs and expecting us to be superior purely because we have more money. It doesn’t feel very Ipswichy to me. Let’s realise we need to work harder if we want to go up and recognise other teams’ efforts if they’re doing better than us. |
” It’s also a bit crass looking down on other clubs and expecting us to be superior purely because we have more money. It doesn’t feel very Ipswichy to me. ”
Exactly this. By definition, this is what an entitled fan is, and we quite rightly derided in other clubs in the past. How have some of our ‘fans’ become this.
Today was a (slightly) disappointing result. It hasn’t left us in a particularly tough position - still everything to play for. |  | | |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 17:24 - Dec 26 by jasondozzell |
There's a literal marathon to go. 5 points is nothing. We've drawn at away against a top 6 side.
On we go! [Post edited 26 Dec 2025 17:28]
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It's Milwall ffs
What is their spend compared to ours?
1/20 th? |  | | |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 01:20 - Dec 27 with 665 views | reusersfreekicks |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 22:23 - Dec 26 by Churchman |
Yep. They ramp it up after every disastrous defeat like today. In summary:
1. Over priced, overpaid players
2. Useless manager that can only play one way
3. Ashton signings wasting money. Money money money, £600m hosed up the wall. That made up figure is just as accurate as some of the ‘mummy where’s my milky drink’ boys.
4. Players don’t care
5. Walking football
6. We’ve only beating teams through luck or they’re deadbeat teams. Worst Championship ever. Really? We’ve only been in it 1.5 seasons in the last 7 years or so and it was a much worse standard 10 years ago. I know, I saw it.
7. Get rid of McKenna
8. Get rid of Ashton
9. We should sell Egeli, Clarke and Philogene at any price and cut our losses
10. Not interested in rebuilding the club’s infrastructure, just want a team that wins 5-0 every week like two seasons ago and plays like Brazil 1970
Sane supporters are being driven off this forum by nappy cr@pping entitled people. We might have decent numbers turning out, but too high a percentage of our support, especially the keyboard warriors, are clueless. We have some of the worst support in the country and don’t tell me it’s worse at other clubs. It isn’t and the outright cowardly nastiness shown to some players and collectively couldn’t be more depressing and less helpful if it tried.
No memory of how long it took to build the 22/23, no idea how football works. Just hatred and venting bile. Anything encouraging or positive? Not here, not this club. What a dreadful environment for existing players and if you were playing for another club and your agent was approached, why would you come here if there was chance of a good club like Portsmouth or Stoke as an alternative?
You are right. It’s very weird seeing so many people on here hating this club and wanting it to fail. I’ve followed ITFC a very long time and never seen anything near this. And I’ve seen what’s really bad, including the near loss of this club just a few years ago.
Robson, Ramsey and the Cobbolds must be turning in their graves. |
Hyperbole x2000
eg where has anyone mentioned 600m
A very extreme view of things that serves no one | | | |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 23:06 - Dec 26 by jasondozzell |
But we've not gone backwards as a football club over the last two years surely. We've gone forwards. That's so clearly the case.
I just do not understand how people are forgetting what things were really like here for the best part of twenty years before that.
People saying we were terrible to watch today. It's insane - have they erased the Mick crab football period followed by Colin Quaner up front cut off from team mates?
We're 5 points off where we want to be! [Post edited 26 Dec 2025 23:07]
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To compare the current team with that of MM who had no resources is obviously ridiculous | | | |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 07:10 - Dec 27 with 590 views | ITFCSG |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 21:52 - Dec 26 by BloomBlue |
Once again you haven't answered the question.
Instead you just type a load of b0ll0cks.
You said you want all out attacking entertaining football, as normalnyoj then tweak it. I'll ask the question again, If we played all out attacking entertaining football and lost every game, would you moan?
Let me think, do bears shlt in the woods???
What most fans want is a team winning games. |
You are stating an impossible scenario that will never happen, just for the sake of living an argument.
That saying if we played like sh1t and win games I don’t think people would bother that much but of course plenty will still want to be entertained every match. What’s the point of going to a match and have zero matchday experience watching a team walk the ball across the pitch sideways and backwards?
And FYI. At present we are playing like sh1t and NOT winning games. Or at least as many as it is commensurate with the highest paid manager and most expensive squad in the entire EFL. So there. | | | |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 23:36 - Dec 26 by Churchman |
Nonsense? Well that’s your view.
By what definition have we gone ‘backwards as a football club over 2 years’? Two years ago what was the club worth? What did the football ground look like or the training ground come to that? What were the players worth then? What are they worth now? The club is not regressing. The team may not be delivering what we all hoped for but if it was as easy as FM25 why employ McKenna when they can employ you or others with equal keyboard expertise?
The only important thing that’s gone backwards is the hatred of people towards it which has never been higher. They most certainly do not love the football club. Nor do those who boo off a subbed CF and riddle a keeper when his name is announced.
The disconnect between it and the likes of you, assuming you are a supporter and not following Leicester like that other poster, is total. Fine. It’s a free country. You enjoy your piling in. You are not alone.
Where have I or the few posters that have yet to be driven away said that we are near where we want to be? None. Some, more sensible people offer suggestions, look at the club analytically and look for encouragement. Is that delusional? Others only appear on here when we don’t win and play well to offer only derision and hate.
Why use fees time and again to beat the players and management up with all the time? It’s not down to the players and it’s not your money that’s been spent. The figures thrown in the air are not even accurate but who cares eh? |
By what definition have we gone ‘backwards as a football club over 2 years’? - League position, playing style, ppg and points per £ spent.
Two years ago what was the club worth? - Unless the club is actively looking to sell to an even richer investor this point is moot
What did the football ground look like or the training ground come to that? - Better looking ground, I bet most fans would rather see better results and performances than a nicer looking ground. Stadium MK is nice and new with plenty of facilities. Why not support the franchise then? You think Brighton or Bournemouth fans bother whether the next UFC fight, Ed Sheeran concert or England game is going to be played at their grounds? Ffs we are first and foremost a football club not the O2 arena. Priorities all wrong by Ashton. As for training facilities yes important but improved training facilities doesn’t really seem to translate into improvement in the first team players as of now. Besides the U21s.
What were the players worth then? What are they worth now? F me I guarantee you we will never recoup the cost for the majority of the dross we signed. No one on earth would pay even half of what we paid for McAteer. Who is going to pay £15 million for Greaves? Even Clarke and Philogene you think any other club would pay £40 million for the pair? Any other club going to pay Johnson’s massive wages? Even Nunez, the budgies were flogging him around and no club thought he was worth £8-10 million. Only MA did. Jury still out for Egeli.
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Hyperbole x2000
eg where has anyone mentioned 600m
A very extreme view of things that serves no one |
Well the figures bandies about are made up guesswork so I made one up. Why not?
I was expressing the ludicrous views I’ve seen on here from the dismals spewed out after every defeat like yesterday (yes it was a draw but anything less than a 3-0 win and on here the hysterics begin and out they come from under their damp duvets). They are not extreme, just what is on here.
The latest evidence mantra is ‘weakest division in years’. Based on what? Used to beat up my team with, there is no true evidence of that and not one misery has stated that Sunderland and Leeds are doing well because it’s the weakest Premier in years. There is actually more truth in the latter than the former with Wolves and West Ham, neither of whose fans hate their club as much as many on here.
You could rightly argue that the relegated teams are not doing as well as they should but also the poorer teams are better organised. The league is competitive but the standard is no different to the games I saw last year or 23/24 in my view.
We are also seeing ‘not trying’. I go to games and watch closely. It just isn’t true and if it was I’d be calling it out just as I did when they gave up under Cook and after he left at Charlton. | | | |
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Money doesn’t guarantee performances. The league is littered with clubs who blew parachute payments, while we went up having spent very little (on transfers at least). So it seems your memory needs a bit of a nudge too ;)
It’s also a bit crass looking down on other clubs and expecting us to be superior purely because we have more money. It doesn’t feel very Ipswichy to me. Let’s realise we need to work harder if we want to go up and recognise other teams’ efforts if they’re doing better than us. |
Agree it doesn’t guarantee it, Southampton spent a lot as well but are sitting even worse than us (albeit improving since Still went). But if it wasn’t a huge advantage, then why not just stick all the money in the bank or infrastructure than invest it in the team? I suspect the owners will be somewhat disappointed on the return on investment from this squad. We simply don’t look capable of putting a run together to get automatics. I was hoping we’d click at some point but we are half way through the season and still limping along.
In our previous promotion season we’d be absolutely miles off the top two, as others said we are being made to look better because there are no outstanding teams and every one is taking points off everyone. For me playoffs would still be a failure given the financial advantage we have. I also have no confidence that this squad has the grit and determination, and consistency to actually succeed in the playoffs. | | | |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 01:12 - Dec 27 by reusersfreekicks |
It's Milwall ffs
What is their spend compared to ours?
1/20 th? |
It probably is a 20th, so then you are going to open other cans that your not allowed to arnt you,
Questioning,
I think frimley has it correct the infrastructure behind the football team has made great strides but the footballing side ATM has regressed, |  | | |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 23:23 - Dec 26 by itfcsuth |
How can we be perceived to have gone forwards. At this point 2 years ago we were a side that was truly on the up, a side the was an absolute joy to watch, we were exciting, we were connected to the team, the team were connected to each other, it was the absolute perfect mixture of everything you need to be a successful side, we had quality, chemistry, mentality and most importantly consistency.
We sat 2nd in the league squeezed between Leicester and Leeds, we sat 7 points ahead of Leeds on 52 points, 14 ahead of ourselves now, and more than anyone else in the division this year. The league is drastically worse this time around.
That team went on to secure promotion the Premier League, they literally broke the door down financially for this football club, changing the entire landscape of where this football club sits in the pyramid.
2 years later we are back in the Championship, we look a distinctly average side, a lack of cohesion, a lack of chemistry, a lack in mentality and ultimately more often than not a lack of quality, whilst making an investment of over £150m.
In its simplest form, we’ve spent £150m+ to be a worse team than a promoted League 1 side, I would suggest imo that is going backwards, and in dramatic fashion. |
“Backwards in dramatic fashion”! Oh the horror!! | |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 09:20 - Dec 27 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Agree it doesn’t guarantee it, Southampton spent a lot as well but are sitting even worse than us (albeit improving since Still went). But if it wasn’t a huge advantage, then why not just stick all the money in the bank or infrastructure than invest it in the team? I suspect the owners will be somewhat disappointed on the return on investment from this squad. We simply don’t look capable of putting a run together to get automatics. I was hoping we’d click at some point but we are half way through the season and still limping along.
In our previous promotion season we’d be absolutely miles off the top two, as others said we are being made to look better because there are no outstanding teams and every one is taking points off everyone. For me playoffs would still be a failure given the financial advantage we have. I also have no confidence that this squad has the grit and determination, and consistency to actually succeed in the playoffs. |
23/24 was a significant outlier, which makes comparisons with it distorted. This season's points distribution is what a 'normal' Championship has looked like at this point over the past 15 years. | | | |
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“Backwards in dramatic fashion”! Oh the horror!! |
The extent to which our fanbase catastrophises our situation after every bump in the road is remarkable. We've struggled a bit for consistency, but you'd think we were stuck in midtable or worse, rather than 3rd in the table.
It is absolutely true that some of our summer business hasn't worked out, and our way form isn't good enough at all, but we're well placed and it really does need to be repeated that the season last for 46 games, not 23 (or even the last game), and overreacting to every result must get exhausting. |  |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 12:44 - Dec 27 by Dubtractor |
The extent to which our fanbase catastrophises our situation after every bump in the road is remarkable. We've struggled a bit for consistency, but you'd think we were stuck in midtable or worse, rather than 3rd in the table.
It is absolutely true that some of our summer business hasn't worked out, and our way form isn't good enough at all, but we're well placed and it really does need to be repeated that the season last for 46 games, not 23 (or even the last game), and overreacting to every result must get exhausting. |
I used to love coming on here after a game and talking about it.
Now we if don't mind it's it's just not worth the effort. If we do win, we have never played well enough, or scored enough goals, or kept a clean sheet, or it could have been so different if X had scored for them when he had the chance etc etc. |  |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 12:56 - Dec 27 with 363 views | pointofblue |
Personal opinion is it's about balance. People have a right to criticise and question the club's actions since promotion. They have got a lot wrong, on and off the pitch (I may have to leave the house in half an hour to ensure I can access my seat, on time, in the SBR for the Oxford match) and some of it seems avoidable, rather than hindsight.
But some of the negative reaction is over the top. I think it's fair to say we're not where we should be on the pitch, but there is no question off it we're in a far better place than we were in 2023/24. And others do raise a valid point that as recently as February 2023, the fanbase was close to mutiny with Morsy, IIRC, falling out with supporters at Bristol Rovers after a dour 0-0 draw. That was with the squad of whom many of us are now lauding and missing, remembering the connection we had.
I think it was McKenna who said the only way this connection is built is by winning. Those players who have managed to make a mark - Philogene, Egeli, Kipre, Matusiwa, to an extent O'Shea - do have more support than those who haven't hit the ground running. And a lot of criticism has been directed towards those who were here before, particularly Hirst but still, to a degree, Davis.
It is easy to look at the table, see Coventry so far ahead, and wonder where it all went wrong, but we are still in a good position heading into January and can make this season a successful one. But it is also easy to have the eighteen months from March 2024 blind us from criticising as well. Things could still be better both on and off the pitch. Mistakes have been made. We're in a dogfight when we could and arguably, with the personal talent at our disposal, have a similar lead to Coventry. The board, coaching staff and players know where expectation lies, however, and that this is our best chance to win promotion. And they'll be doing everything in their power to achieve it. | |
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I used to love coming on here after a game and talking about it.
Now we if don't mind it's it's just not worth the effort. If we do win, we have never played well enough, or scored enough goals, or kept a clean sheet, or it could have been so different if X had scored for them when he had the chance etc etc. |
I do think the desperation for 3 points unfortunately for many reduces the ability to see certain things about games
Yesterday as a championship away fixture was a solid performance.
It was against a top 6 side. 1pm boxing day kickoff away to millwall is never an easy game. We reduced them to perhaps 10 minutes of their own control.
Our issue was clear In that our end product wasn't great. But that doesn't mean we didnt have any nice moments of football. There was some lovely quick 1 2s going on and some nice patterns between davis. Philogene and kipre at some points.
Our subs didnt work and I think km will be looking at this as we were starting to really threaten and he kind of ruined that momentum with those subs. But thats also on those who can on. Clarkes watched philogene all game. He could see the openings and where they came from. But he was pretty bad imo.
Onto Coventry. Want a win. Really not expecting one. A draw will do as long as we can win against oxford. | |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 13:02 - Dec 27 by FrimleyBlue |
I do think the desperation for 3 points unfortunately for many reduces the ability to see certain things about games
Yesterday as a championship away fixture was a solid performance.
It was against a top 6 side. 1pm boxing day kickoff away to millwall is never an easy game. We reduced them to perhaps 10 minutes of their own control.
Our issue was clear In that our end product wasn't great. But that doesn't mean we didnt have any nice moments of football. There was some lovely quick 1 2s going on and some nice patterns between davis. Philogene and kipre at some points.
Our subs didnt work and I think km will be looking at this as we were starting to really threaten and he kind of ruined that momentum with those subs. But thats also on those who can on. Clarkes watched philogene all game. He could see the openings and where they came from. But he was pretty bad imo.
Onto Coventry. Want a win. Really not expecting one. A draw will do as long as we can win against oxford. |
I hated the subs yesterday. McAteer was putting in his best performance for us in the second half and was subbed. Philogene was starting to turn the screw and was subbed. I didn't get them at the time and don't get them now. As you say, both ruined momentum. | |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 13:48 - Dec 27 with 296 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 13:44 - Dec 27 by pointofblue |
I hated the subs yesterday. McAteer was putting in his best performance for us in the second half and was subbed. Philogene was starting to turn the screw and was subbed. I didn't get them at the time and don't get them now. As you say, both ruined momentum. |
The mcateer one puzzled me
With philogenes you think ok like for like ish. Should be ok
But mcateer was getting space. He was whilst badly getting balls into the box the more he was getting youd hope the calmer hed get with them
But km upset the balance by having egeli come on and tucking in. We then had furlong passing balls into his feet on halfway... completely changed the way our right side worked | |
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| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 19:02 - Dec 27 with 225 views | itfcsuth |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 23:37 - Dec 26 by FrimleyBlue |
I would say it's better to say it's going forwards off the pitch, slight step back on the pitch but with a promising future ahead
Many 'issues' at the moment, but we're third, you don't get to third if things are terrible. Is it like 23, no.
But, we're moving forwards, you can see things progressing in certain areas, some things aren't but that's where Jan should help us. |
Off the pitch, the infrastructure has been absolutely outstanding, the work being done in many areas that we see is brilliant, that is undoubted.
Everybody at the club deserves all the praise for that, from the top down.
But there are multiple factors to a successful football club, and of course the main one is on field performances/results.
The future is still bright, I have no doubt we will get to where we want to be, and I’m not saying you are, but there is no benefit in pretending where we are now is where we want or need to be, there is an awful lot of work to be done. | | | |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 19:05 - Dec 27 with 224 views | itfcsuth |
| I doubt Boro fans are declaring the season over after drawing to Rovers (n/t) on 12:36 - Dec 27 by SomethingBlue |
“Backwards in dramatic fashion”! Oh the horror!! |
We are 13 points after the halfway stage as to where our L1 side were, a newly promoted side, in a much tougher season, whilst spending over £150m in the interim.
It’s a backwards step in points return, a backwards step in squad unity, cohesion, mentality, quality and balance, and significant drop of in consistent performance levels. | | | |
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