| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market 15:16 - Dec 27 with 4632 views | kizaitfc |
Not a bad position to be in!
Some fans seem self entitled to think we should be top, just look at the other two that got relegated we 7 points ahead of them. Look at two of the teams relegated the year before one playing in league 1 and the other sat in 19th.
We are a good transfer window away from setting up an exciting 5 months, let's get behind them! |  |
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| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 17:37 - Dec 27 with 1081 views | MattinLondon |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 17:20 - Dec 27 by jasondozzell |
Respect your opinion but from my point of view it's totally totally insane.
"I think that we will go up automatically but the fact still remain that the players are underperforming and should be doing better."
Can you imagine that sentence at any point in the last 20 years?!!!!!
So you think we'll go up automatically but you're underwhelmed. |
Can you imagine that sentence at any point in the last 20 years?!!!!!
No, I can’t but that’s irrelevant. The club has spent a lot of money and with that expectations are significantly increased - is that so hard to understand or to even think of as sane?
All teams have disappointing results but this season, again in regard for the money spent, results have been shocking. The club should be at least ten points better off.
As I said I think we will go up automatically but it’s the following season which fills me with dread as I don’t think there are many who will be able to perform in the PL. Possibly Davis and Matusiwa but that’s not really something to be concerned with today. |  | | |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 18:05 - Dec 27 with 1031 views | Illinoisblue |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 15:45 - Dec 27 by SitfcB |
Joel Piroe has to be ‘on the list’ surely. |
Prioe would be nice. We also need an Enciso or Sarmiento kind of player. Someone who can create a little bit of magic. Nunez is that player. Add another one and we might be able to make the Milwall keeper have to make a save 😄 |  |
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| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 18:11 - Dec 27 with 1015 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 18:05 - Dec 27 by Illinoisblue |
Prioe would be nice. We also need an Enciso or Sarmiento kind of player. Someone who can create a little bit of magic. Nunez is that player. Add another one and we might be able to make the Milwall keeper have to make a save 😄 |
I loved Enciso.
He wanted his own ball but he was good fun to watch. Loved a shot from anywhere |  |
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| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 18:28 - Dec 27 with 963 views | blueoutlook |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 17:18 - Dec 27 by TheBoyBlue |
We have become what many of us mocked Norwich fans for being when they were in a similar position. They were entitled, calling for the manager's head when they weren't walking the league, berating players that at the time we could only dream of attracting.
We have a really strong squad and in my opinion we're just missing a confident striker who can finish the chances we create. As you say, in a good position. |
We are missing so much more than that. You can see it just watching the team. |  | | |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 20:53 - Dec 27 with 888 views | Broadbent23 |
We are the biggest prize in the Championship to be shot at every week. Our form has been up and down dependant on how the opposition sets up. We are in third place with a strong squad with another 23 games to play. What's not to like. This has been a tough season with a lot of talking points concerning various players. No one supporting Town will ever win the pools trying to predict our results. Our promotion years were a journey, this season is a battle; so we need all our supporters to get on board and not to criticise, but to encourage our under achievers. So Coventry away contingent, find a way to get us three points. | |
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| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 21:14 - Dec 27 with 855 views | itfcsuth |
Our position and points are ok, the reality is we should be better, we would want to be much closer to the pace setters.
Our performances are far from ok, lacks real balance, connection, consistency and far too often lacking in quality.
If that makes me entitled then so be it, but we made significant investment made in the squad, for this very reason, to be as strong as possible to bounce back - but the performance levels remain nowhere near what we would want to see - KMc has specifically stated this himself on numerous occasions, the entitled little sod. |  | | |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 21:15 - Dec 27 with 851 views | Swansea_Blue |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 18:28 - Dec 27 by blueoutlook |
We are missing so much more than that. You can see it just watching the team. |
I disagree. Even not firing on all cylinders we’re:
- 3rd for goals scored
- 3rd for expected goals
- 3rd for shots on target
- crucially, 1st for big chances created and also 1st (worst) for big chances missed - that’s our problem, right there
- joint second best for goals conceded
- 24th (best) for expected goals conceded
- 3rd for clean sheets
It can look bad because we have so much possession and it often comes to nothing. But despite that we’re still doing a lot more than most other teams in the league. We need someone to bury more of all the chances we’re creating. We’re very close. |  |
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| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 21:28 - Dec 27 with 818 views | waveneyblue |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 21:15 - Dec 27 by Swansea_Blue |
I disagree. Even not firing on all cylinders we’re:
- 3rd for goals scored
- 3rd for expected goals
- 3rd for shots on target
- crucially, 1st for big chances created and also 1st (worst) for big chances missed - that’s our problem, right there
- joint second best for goals conceded
- 24th (best) for expected goals conceded
- 3rd for clean sheets
It can look bad because we have so much possession and it often comes to nothing. But despite that we’re still doing a lot more than most other teams in the league. We need someone to bury more of all the chances we’re creating. We’re very close. |
No, no.. Stats are pure lies.
We are awful, Mullet and co will be along in a minute to explain just how bad we are and how we are idiots to think otherwise.
We should listen to them |  | | |
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| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 22:20 - Dec 27 with 756 views | Blue_Heath |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 17:15 - Dec 27 by Illinoisblue |
You do have to wonder about the happiness of the squad. In no particular order:
Greaves. Big money buy, rarely plays.
Szmodics. Frequently injured, or recovering from injury. Now ill.
Akpom. Barely involved. Probably wondering why he moved here
Jack Clarke. Supersub but probably looking at Sunderland and thinking about what might have been
Harry Clarke. From local hero promotion winner to injured, loaned out, not even on bench.
Mcateer. Being buried under that 12m price tag |
Add Johnson and now Palmer as well as Young. | |
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| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 22:25 - Dec 27 with 757 views | goperryrevs |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 21:15 - Dec 27 by Swansea_Blue |
I disagree. Even not firing on all cylinders we’re:
- 3rd for goals scored
- 3rd for expected goals
- 3rd for shots on target
- crucially, 1st for big chances created and also 1st (worst) for big chances missed - that’s our problem, right there
- joint second best for goals conceded
- 24th (best) for expected goals conceded
- 3rd for clean sheets
It can look bad because we have so much possession and it often comes to nothing. But despite that we’re still doing a lot more than most other teams in the league. We need someone to bury more of all the chances we’re creating. We’re very close. |
And top of the expected points table. https://footystats.org/england/championship/xpts
But apparently we're utterly woeful, rather than just not quite clicking but still in the top 3. | | | |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 22:34 - Dec 27 with 734 views | J2BLUE |
I hate to name individuals but we're eight goals below XG and our four main culprits are Hirst, Azon, Szmodics and Akpom. We badly need a finisher.
Naturally our two outperforming xG are Philogene and Clarke who play in the same position which says it all.
The recruitment wasn't great and we need to rebalance but there is plenty to be optimistic about. No one is pretending it has gone to plan or that everything is perfect. [Post edited 27 Dec 2025 23:06]
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| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 23:36 - Dec 27 with 652 views | itfcsuth |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 22:34 - Dec 27 by J2BLUE |
I hate to name individuals but we're eight goals below XG and our four main culprits are Hirst, Azon, Szmodics and Akpom. We badly need a finisher.
Naturally our two outperforming xG are Philogene and Clarke who play in the same position which says it all.
The recruitment wasn't great and we need to rebalance but there is plenty to be optimistic about. No one is pretending it has gone to plan or that everything is perfect. [Post edited 27 Dec 2025 23:06]
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Are we 8 goals below our xG?
We are 8 points below our expected points, whatever that means, but our xG is pretty neutral. We’ve scored as many as we’ve been expected to. | | | |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 23:37 - Dec 27 with 648 views | itfcsuth |
You don’t get promoted for topping the expected points table. | | | |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 23:55 - Dec 27 with 608 views | itfcsuth |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 21:15 - Dec 27 by Swansea_Blue |
I disagree. Even not firing on all cylinders we’re:
- 3rd for goals scored
- 3rd for expected goals
- 3rd for shots on target
- crucially, 1st for big chances created and also 1st (worst) for big chances missed - that’s our problem, right there
- joint second best for goals conceded
- 24th (best) for expected goals conceded
- 3rd for clean sheets
It can look bad because we have so much possession and it often comes to nothing. But despite that we’re still doing a lot more than most other teams in the league. We need someone to bury more of all the chances we’re creating. We’re very close. |
Just watch the us with your eyes, that will tell you much more than any statistic ever can. | | | |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 23:59 - Dec 27 with 603 views | Godzilla |
Yes, this month looks interesting, what with who our rivals are playing, will be intersting come the end of Jan to take stock. |  | | |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 00:07 - Dec 28 with 594 views | FrimleyBlue |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 23:55 - Dec 27 by itfcsuth |
Just watch the us with your eyes, that will tell you much more than any statistic ever can. |
It doesn't really
The missed chances stat us key
How many of those missed chances turn a draw into a win or a loss into maybe something different if we'd scored first
Think hirst is on 10. Azon on 9
19 clear cut chances between two strikers missed let alone those for the likes of Sammy s v southampton. Mcateer. Nunez have both missed sitters.
So sure watching games will show you its been painful at times. But when painful at times we could and should have more points than we currently do. |  |
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| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 00:11 - Dec 28 with 590 views | J2BLUE |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 23:36 - Dec 27 by itfcsuth |
Are we 8 goals below our xG?
We are 8 points below our expected points, whatever that means, but our xG is pretty neutral. We’ve scored as many as we’ve been expected to. |
What is your source? Mine is whoscored.com the best site for stats out there IMO | |
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| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 00:18 - Dec 28 with 580 views | Vaughan8 |
It says the expected wins etc are based on the xG. Its just in a different format.
We know we miss a ton of chances. Its all very well saying we get chances but no-one to finish them means we don't improve. We really need a forward who can start weighing in with some goals. | | | |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 00:19 - Dec 28 with 579 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Stop banging on about entitlement it’s exhausting, it’s been a disappointing first half of the season that’s all anyone is saying, it’s very bunched up but we are along way off top spot and second is luckily in touch.
We are currently on for under an 80 point return. Last year you needed 100 odd to go up so we are fortunate the league is what it is. |  |
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| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 00:22 - Dec 28 with 569 views | Vaughan8 |
One of our main issues is points from losing positions. We let the first goal in, we don't win and probably barely get a draw.
Its evident that we struggle to break teams down. The complete opposite to 2 years ago. [Post edited 28 Dec 2025 1:07]
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| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 00:33 - Dec 28 with 538 views | Bigalhunter |
It’s that ‘good transfer window’ bit that bothers me.
We’ve spaffed more money up the wall in the last 18 months than we had in the last hundred odd years of our existence.
It’s this blindly optimistic belief that if you keep chucking enough cash at the squad, KM will cobble together another miracle, that can very quickly become unsustainable.
There has to be some sensible accountability for the wasteful expenditure since last Xmas before we casually let KM or MA throw the last of the parachute jelly at the wall and wonder why it isn’t sticking. |  |
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| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 00:38 - Dec 28 with 529 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 00:33 - Dec 28 by Bigalhunter |
It’s that ‘good transfer window’ bit that bothers me.
We’ve spaffed more money up the wall in the last 18 months than we had in the last hundred odd years of our existence.
It’s this blindly optimistic belief that if you keep chucking enough cash at the squad, KM will cobble together another miracle, that can very quickly become unsustainable.
There has to be some sensible accountability for the wasteful expenditure since last Xmas before we casually let KM or MA throw the last of the parachute jelly at the wall and wonder why it isn’t sticking. |
If we don’t go up, then not having a proven goal scoring 9 at this level for over half a season will be almost unforgivable considering what we have spent. Even if Hirst was having a better season it’s not unusual for him to be injured this time of year. Let’s hope something comes good in January but I do worry for us if we can’t find one.
People hated the idea of Moore or McBurnie but I’d imagine we would be second now with either of them. | |
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| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 00:46 - Dec 28 with 496 views | J2BLUE |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 00:38 - Dec 28 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
If we don’t go up, then not having a proven goal scoring 9 at this level for over half a season will be almost unforgivable considering what we have spent. Even if Hirst was having a better season it’s not unusual for him to be injured this time of year. Let’s hope something comes good in January but I do worry for us if we can’t find one.
People hated the idea of Moore or McBurnie but I’d imagine we would be second now with either of them. |
If we get to the end of the window without what we need then serious questions need to be asked. Don't think anyone is arguing with that. We just don't want to hold an inquest now with half a season to go where we still have a very good chance. Before anyone says we don't just engage your brains for a minute. We keep hearing how bleak everything is yet we're five points off second (you may not like hearing it but it's a fact).
We had a bad start over 10 games. In the 13 since then we've taken 25 points (another fact, so don't give me your gut feelings). Yet we're in some sort of crisis. Boro still to come at home. A huge transfer window ahead. | |
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| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 00:54 - Dec 28 with 478 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 00:46 - Dec 28 by J2BLUE |
If we get to the end of the window without what we need then serious questions need to be asked. Don't think anyone is arguing with that. We just don't want to hold an inquest now with half a season to go where we still have a very good chance. Before anyone says we don't just engage your brains for a minute. We keep hearing how bleak everything is yet we're five points off second (you may not like hearing it but it's a fact).
We had a bad start over 10 games. In the 13 since then we've taken 25 points (another fact, so don't give me your gut feelings). Yet we're in some sort of crisis. Boro still to come at home. A huge transfer window ahead. |
Like everything in life, you’ll analyze as you go along. Especially when you’ve had multiple windows to address and appears we are relying on January again. It would be a bit quiet on here if we had to wait for the end of the season to give any opinion!
I think we have a good chance of automatic promotion still but also think we are quite lucky to be in that conversation for the reasons stated. I’ve been fairly underwhelmed thus far, along with a lot of our fans. Fully behind them and hope we can find what we need over the next few weeks but this entitlement thing is getting on my nerves. I doubt anyone in the building is doing somersaults or is super thrilled with where we are at the half way mark but of course will all understand it’s still right in front of us.
That’s actually the most frustrating thing, whether individual games or the bigger picture. It’s begging for another team to put a run together and separate from the mediocrity. Hopefully it’s us sooner rather than later. [Post edited 28 Dec 2025 0:56]
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| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 01:02 - Dec 28 with 462 views | Bigalhunter |
| 3rd in the table and potentially strongest in Jan market on 21:28 - Dec 27 by waveneyblue |
No, no.. Stats are pure lies.
We are awful, Mullet and co will be along in a minute to explain just how bad we are and how we are idiots to think otherwise.
We should listen to them |
Shush now sweetcheeks, the grown-ups want to have a sensible conversation.
You lost all credibility when you stumbled in, swinging your handbag after the ‘Boro game and it turned out you hadn’t even watched it..
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