| Morsy benched 18:40 - Jan 20 with 9174 views | Zx1988 |
PLEASE let's not applaud him on to the pitch if/when he gets subbed on. |  |
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| Morsy benched on 10:31 - Jan 21 with 1358 views | Libero |
| Morsy benched on 10:29 - Jan 21 by FifeITFC |
I assume that wasn't a problem for you when he was wearing a Town shirt? |
You assume incorrectly. |  | | |
| Morsy benched on 10:31 - Jan 21 with 1353 views | Libero |
| Morsy benched on 10:27 - Jan 21 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
His twitter was always an interesting read.... |
Indeed it was, as were his likes, etc. | | | |
| Morsy benched on 10:32 - Jan 21 with 1351 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Morsy benched on 10:29 - Jan 21 by FifeITFC |
I assume that wasn't a problem for you when he was wearing a Town shirt? |
I think it was a problem for a lot of us ?
I think a lot of people were justifiably disappointed when he opted not to wear the armband on retweeted certain things on to his twitter timeline from some questionable public figures. It was often discussed on here. |  |
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| His song wasn't sung when he came on on 10:39 - Jan 21 with 1310 views | Dyland |
| Morsy benched on 23:19 - Jan 20 by You_Bloo_Right |
Sorry disagree.
For any time an ex-player is on the pitch he is an opposition player. It really is that simple.
And "cheer up". Perhaps when those who berate the lack of atmosphere at the ground put as much effort into supporting the current team as those who sang Morsy's song when he came on. |
Maybe by the odd lemon here and there, but nothing audible. It was sung when he was warming up. He got another standing ovation when he came on, followed by "blue army", and the biggest cheer of perhaps the whole evening was reserved for when he got a yellow card. Tbh, if he'd got a second most rational fans would've found it hilarious. And nonetheless given another standing ovation as he lef tht pitch. Indeed, I may have even joined in the song if he was sent off, arf.
Whilst I agree with your general sentiment, Morsy is unique. He's a club legend and not just any "ex-player". |  |
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| Morsy benched on 10:45 - Jan 21 with 1264 views | Ryorry |
| Morsy benched on 10:30 - Jan 21 by Libero |
It’s been discussed to death before - it’s totally fine that you and the majority don’t consider Morsy’s actions to expose any level of homophobia, it’s your perogotive- but for me, hiding behind religion when he’s previously been fine to wear shirts with betting sponsorship on, shows a level of flexibility in his religion I.E he actively chooses how/when to apply elements of it (as is his perogotive) he made the active choice to draw the line with showing any kind of visibility/support of the LGBTQ community - that’s a discriminatory choice and as such, homophobic.
But each to their own, I forgot he was playing after everyone got all dewy eyed, until Young told him to f**ck off. [Post edited 21 Jan 10:37]
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I certainly remember one long thread about it, including several possible reasons why he may have chosen to not wear the rainbow armband, none of them down to homophobia.
You still haven’t provided any evidence to substantiate your allegation. |  |
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| Morsy benched on 10:51 - Jan 21 with 1213 views | Ryorry |
| Morsy benched on 23:19 - Jan 20 by You_Bloo_Right |
Sorry disagree.
For any time an ex-player is on the pitch he is an opposition player. It really is that simple.
And "cheer up". Perhaps when those who berate the lack of atmosphere at the ground put as much effort into supporting the current team as those who sang Morsy's song when he came on. |
It’ll be a sad day for football when there’s no longer any human or emotional connection in supporting a team/club. | |
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| Morsy benched on 10:52 - Jan 21 with 1221 views | Libero |
| Morsy benched on 10:45 - Jan 21 by Ryorry |
I certainly remember one long thread about it, including several possible reasons why he may have chosen to not wear the rainbow armband, none of them down to homophobia.
You still haven’t provided any evidence to substantiate your allegation. |
‘substantial evidence’ 😂 go find something else to do.
I’m sorry you don’t like my opinion, but I’m not under any obligation to ‘provide’ anything.
We just have different opinions, ce la vie. | | | |
| Morsy benched on 11:00 - Jan 21 with 1169 views | Ryorry |
| Morsy benched on 10:52 - Jan 21 by Libero |
‘substantial evidence’ 😂 go find something else to do.
I’m sorry you don’t like my opinion, but I’m not under any obligation to ‘provide’ anything.
We just have different opinions, ce la vie. |
“Dictionary
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substantiate
/səbˈstanʃieɪt/
verb
provide evidence to support or prove the truth of.
"they had found nothing to substantiate the allegations". “.
And actually, anyone making an allegation like that *is* under an obligation to provide evidence to support it, otherwise it’s just an unjustified slur/defamation. | |
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| Morsy benched on 12:08 - Jan 21 with 1100 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Morsy benched on 07:49 - Jan 21 by Kieran_Knows |
I was surprised last night, I have to say. Knowing this fan base, I thought we’d have spent 90 minutes singing his song. Instead he got a nice applause as he warmed up, little rendition of his song but as soon as he stepped foot on the pitch, I even heard people jeering him which I quite liked to be honest.
Aside from that, I love Morsy as much as the next person, but I thought he looked a bit of an old man out there last night. Looked slow in his play and didn’t think his passing was as crisp as it was when he was here. Appreciate he’s not played much football in 6 months, but I had expected a bit more from him when he came on. |
Agree, think it was the perfect balance last night to be honest. I applauded him when he came down the touchline, joined in his brief song and clapped him on. Some low key recognition for a player who did so much for us, which I'm sure was appreciated and it felt appropriate.
Thereafter he was wearing the wrong shirt on the pitch, its about the badge on the front and it was a big 3 points at stake for us. I also sarcastically cheered his shanked effort on goal and told him to fook off when he was getting in that little melee near the end. |  | | |
| Morsy benched on 12:36 - Jan 21 with 1050 views | TractorJack |
| Morsy benched on 12:08 - Jan 21 by _CliveBaker_ |
Agree, think it was the perfect balance last night to be honest. I applauded him when he came down the touchline, joined in his brief song and clapped him on. Some low key recognition for a player who did so much for us, which I'm sure was appreciated and it felt appropriate.
Thereafter he was wearing the wrong shirt on the pitch, its about the badge on the front and it was a big 3 points at stake for us. I also sarcastically cheered his shanked effort on goal and told him to fook off when he was getting in that little melee near the end. |
Was funny Ashley Young was having a right go at him, would love to know what he said. |  | | |
| Morsy benched on 12:44 - Jan 21 with 1005 views | Libero |
| Morsy benched on 11:00 - Jan 21 by Ryorry |
“Dictionary
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substantiate
/səbˈstanʃieɪt/
verb
provide evidence to support or prove the truth of.
"they had found nothing to substantiate the allegations". “.
And actually, anyone making an allegation like that *is* under an obligation to provide evidence to support it, otherwise it’s just an unjustified slur/defamation. |
I’ve given my explanation, you don’t like it - what are you gonna do?
Why are so many grown adults on here, so weird.
We just hold differing opinions. | | | |
| Morsy benched on 13:02 - Jan 21 with 937 views | stonojnr |
| Morsy benched on 22:44 - Jan 20 by ITFCson |
How was it (to the OP) not applauding him when 99% of the fans around you were?
To the 99% who applauded him - well done. A classy gesture |
Quite easy, you get to a certain age in life and recognise you're always surrounded by idiots 😉
I thought it was impressive how much some clapped for Sam, but gave no support to anyone on our team the whole game, whats up with that ? | | | |
| Morsy benched on 14:15 - Jan 21 with 841 views | Ryorry |
| Morsy benched on 12:44 - Jan 21 by Libero |
I’ve given my explanation, you don’t like it - what are you gonna do?
Why are so many grown adults on here, so weird.
We just hold differing opinions. |
It isn’t “weird” to want evidence that the person being accused of serious wrongdoing has actually done what they’re being accused of.
Or would you be happy for me to call you a “homophobe”, though I don’t have any evidence that you are? | |
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| Morsy benched on 16:22 - Jan 21 with 806 views | Libero |
| Morsy benched on 14:15 - Jan 21 by Ryorry |
It isn’t “weird” to want evidence that the person being accused of serious wrongdoing has actually done what they’re being accused of.
Or would you be happy for me to call you a “homophobe”, though I don’t have any evidence that you are? |
Congratulations, you’ve earned your spot on the div list. Ridiculous behaviour, I’ve given you my rationale, you don’t like it- you’re pursuing an argument that I don’t want.
You’re entitled to your view, I’m sorry mine caused you such upset. | | | |
| Morsy benched on 16:51 - Jan 21 with 755 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Morsy benched on 10:45 - Jan 21 by Ryorry |
I certainly remember one long thread about it, including several possible reasons why he may have chosen to not wear the rainbow armband, none of them down to homophobia.
You still haven’t provided any evidence to substantiate your allegation. |
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| Morsy benched on 17:55 - Jan 21 with 698 views | bartyg |
| Morsy benched on 14:15 - Jan 21 by Ryorry |
It isn’t “weird” to want evidence that the person being accused of serious wrongdoing has actually done what they’re being accused of.
Or would you be happy for me to call you a “homophobe”, though I don’t have any evidence that you are? |
Poor from you I'm afraid. People shouldn't be jumping through hoops given the evidence available publicly |  | | |
| Morsy benched on 18:01 - Jan 21 with 677 views | Ryorry |
| Morsy benched on 16:22 - Jan 21 by Libero |
Congratulations, you’ve earned your spot on the div list. Ridiculous behaviour, I’ve given you my rationale, you don’t like it- you’re pursuing an argument that I don’t want.
You’re entitled to your view, I’m sorry mine caused you such upset. |
Really happy you've "div listed" me, great result, cheers 👍
The day that evidence is no longer required before someone is judged & found guilty of something is, or would be, a tragic one in any any country of the world.
I'm absolutely fine with standing by that principle even if you're not (am actually quite shocked that you're not, I genuinely had you down as a decent person at heart even if we disagreed on some things. But hey, guess you won't see this anyway!)  | |
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| Morsy benched on 19:13 - Jan 21 with 614 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Morsy benched on 17:55 - Jan 21 by bartyg |
Poor from you I'm afraid. People shouldn't be jumping through hoops given the evidence available publicly |
What evidence? |  |
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| Morsy benched on 05:31 - Jan 22 with 521 views | Benters |
| Morsy benched on 16:51 - Jan 21 by GlasgowBlue |
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Oh yes that got a few on here messed up they weren’t sure which way to turn.
In their perfect worlds they think any one playing for town should be saint like.
His religious beliefs told him not to wear the armband,I think it was up to him to do what he liked.
Good luck to him he was a great player for us. |  |
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| Morsy benched on 09:09 - Jan 22 with 460 views | baxterbasics |
| Morsy benched on 00:31 - Jan 21 by Libero |
Yep, this - I didn’t want to applaud him, but I don’t begrudge anyone else choosing to applaud the homophobe. Their choice, innit! |
Maybe you are right about him, maybe you are not.
Either way I find it strange how quick we often are to just reduce someone's entire personality to one thing, attitude or event. Morsy? Homophobe. JK Rowling? Transphobe. The Royal Family? Nonce protectors. Someone says something in support of Israel? Genocide enabler. As if nothing any of these people do or achieve outside of that matters anymore.
I don't know what Sam's true feelings about the LGBT folks are. I don't need to. I can still appreciate and thank him for his contribution to our club. He probably would not appreciate my take on Israel/Palestine, but hopefully he would still respect me as a fan who paid to watch him play a few times.
I swear 90% of the conflict and abuse we see online would stop if people could just get over having to categorise everyone as 'team bad guy' or 'team good guy' on such limited data. [Post edited 22 Jan 9:43]
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| Morsy benched on 09:17 - Jan 22 with 447 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Morsy benched on 09:09 - Jan 22 by baxterbasics |
Maybe you are right about him, maybe you are not.
Either way I find it strange how quick we often are to just reduce someone's entire personality to one thing, attitude or event. Morsy? Homophobe. JK Rowling? Transphobe. The Royal Family? Nonce protectors. Someone says something in support of Israel? Genocide enabler. As if nothing any of these people do or achieve outside of that matters anymore.
I don't know what Sam's true feelings about the LGBT folks are. I don't need to. I can still appreciate and thank him for his contribution to our club. He probably would not appreciate my take on Israel/Palestine, but hopefully he would still respect me as a fan who paid to watch him play a few times.
I swear 90% of the conflict and abuse we see online would stop if people could just get over having to categorise everyone as 'team bad guy' or 'team good guy' on such limited data. [Post edited 22 Jan 9:43]
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Massive straw man. I haven't seen anyone reducing Morsy; personality to one thing in the way you suggest.
They have, quite reasonably, expressed discomfort at his stance on the rainbow armband stuff. | |
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| Morsy benched on 09:17 - Jan 22 with 433 views | Ryorry |
| Morsy benched on 16:51 - Jan 21 by GlasgowBlue |
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Err - “thanks” - sort of - that thread is a 36-pager!
I’m currently on p7, might get to the last one by the end of the month … 😂
(So far, no actual evidence on there from anyone that SM is a “homophobe”). | |
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| Morsy benched on 09:19 - Jan 22 with 435 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Morsy benched on 09:17 - Jan 22 by Ryorry |
Err - “thanks” - sort of - that thread is a 36-pager!
I’m currently on p7, might get to the last one by the end of the month … 😂
(So far, no actual evidence on there from anyone that SM is a “homophobe”). |
Well- he actively declined to wear the stuff in support of LGBTQ, which is a statement in itself. | |
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| Morsy benched on 09:21 - Jan 22 with 416 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Morsy benched on 09:17 - Jan 22 by redrickstuhaart |
Massive straw man. I haven't seen anyone reducing Morsy; personality to one thing in the way you suggest.
They have, quite reasonably, expressed discomfort at his stance on the rainbow armband stuff. |
Libs has called him a homophobe. That's the point. That's the reduction. | |
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| Morsy benched on 09:24 - Jan 22 with 418 views | Libero |
| Morsy benched on 09:17 - Jan 22 by redrickstuhaart |
Massive straw man. I haven't seen anyone reducing Morsy; personality to one thing in the way you suggest.
They have, quite reasonably, expressed discomfort at his stance on the rainbow armband stuff. |
Quite right. | | | |
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