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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly 11:16 - Feb 22 with 2057 viewsDeano69

And randomly pointing in various directions

Can’t run and change direction with your arm in the air.

Just found it very annoying yesterday but don’t recall it happening much in previous games?

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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 11:17 - Feb 22 with 1730 viewsStokieBlue

He only did it when he was already out of position and had no hope of intercepting.

Hopeful attempts at offside in those circumstances.

You probably noticed it more yesterday because he was out of position a lot more yesterday.

SB
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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 11:24 - Feb 22 with 1683 viewsPerublue

I noticed last season and it is definitely a regular Dara thing.

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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 13:16 - Feb 22 with 1556 viewsBonchosBicycle

He's always done it - certainly this season. I even commented something in chat yesterday along the lines of can we have less pointing and more defending.
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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 13:23 - Feb 22 with 1531 viewsalgy

It comes from going on all of those planes to away matches. He thinks he's on the ground staff directing them taxiing.

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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 13:45 - Feb 22 with 1489 viewsSharkey

When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 11:24 - Feb 22 by Perublue

I noticed last season and it is definitely a regular Dara thing.


do PL (i.e. VAR) players do this as much as Championship and below, I wonder?
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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 14:43 - Feb 22 with 1403 viewsGlasgowBlue

When his right back went missing so he had to move over to deal with Moore, leaving a gap where he would normally be.

Both Davis and Furlong were upfield when Wrexham broke. In the old days Harry Clarke would have stayed back when Davis was ion the attack. B urgess would have covered for Davis, Woolfy would have gone central and Harry Clarke would have tucked in as a third centreback.

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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 14:47 - Feb 22 with 1383 viewsFrimleyBlue

When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 14:43 - Feb 22 by GlasgowBlue

When his right back went missing so he had to move over to deal with Moore, leaving a gap where he would normally be.

Both Davis and Furlong were upfield when Wrexham broke. In the old days Harry Clarke would have stayed back when Davis was ion the attack. B urgess would have covered for Davis, Woolfy would have gone central and Harry Clarke would have tucked in as a third centreback.


Thanks Glasgow. I did wonder on the highlight why that gap was there.

Did furlong have a mare yesterday.. in most of the goals he looks way out of position.

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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 14:56 - Feb 22 with 1361 viewsGlasgowBlue

When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 11:17 - Feb 22 by StokieBlue

He only did it when he was already out of position and had no hope of intercepting.

Hopeful attempts at offside in those circumstances.

You probably noticed it more yesterday because he was out of position a lot more yesterday.

SB


I don't think he was calling for an offside. He was pointing to Windass who was unmarked if Moore had decided to pass.

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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 15:02 - Feb 22 with 1336 viewsStokieBlue

When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 14:56 - Feb 22 by GlasgowBlue

I don't think he was calling for an offside. He was pointing to Windass who was unmarked if Moore had decided to pass.


From memory, he did it a number of times yesterday.

It really was a shocker from him.

Interestingly (or not), Furlong also stuck his arm up to claim offside when it looked like he could have easily intercepted the ball and they should have scored but for a poor finish.

Strange game from the defence yesterday.

SB
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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 15:04 - Feb 22 with 1321 viewsFrimleyBlue

When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 15:02 - Feb 22 by StokieBlue

From memory, he did it a number of times yesterday.

It really was a shocker from him.

Interestingly (or not), Furlong also stuck his arm up to claim offside when it looked like he could have easily intercepted the ball and they should have scored but for a poor finish.

Strange game from the defence yesterday.

SB


We're the wrexham front line playing just off the shoulders of our defenders? I did wonder looking at some of the goals if they were going deep, coming back onside in the build up to goals and thats why we kept asking for offside.

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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 15:08 - Feb 22 with 1316 viewscbower

When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 14:43 - Feb 22 by GlasgowBlue

When his right back went missing so he had to move over to deal with Moore, leaving a gap where he would normally be.

Both Davis and Furlong were upfield when Wrexham broke. In the old days Harry Clarke would have stayed back when Davis was ion the attack. B urgess would have covered for Davis, Woolfy would have gone central and Harry Clarke would have tucked in as a third centreback.


Ah, that'll be the Harry Clarke who according to some had no positional sense, constantly left us exposed and let us down so much. They were, of course, very wrong. The job Clarke was being asked to do was very demanding as he was also expected to get forward as well as tucking in when Leif bombed on. There have been many games this season when I have found myself thinking Clarke could do a real job for this team but he seems very out in the cold, hence the loan to Charlton.

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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 15:35 - Feb 22 with 1258 viewsDJR

When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 14:47 - Feb 22 by FrimleyBlue

Thanks Glasgow. I did wonder on the highlight why that gap was there.

Did furlong have a mare yesterday.. in most of the goals he looks way out of position.


If you look at this from about 20 seconds in, you will see O'Shea is next to Moore when Taylor loses the header but loses concentration and his man and let's Moore get a head start.

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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 16:04 - Feb 22 with 1200 viewsitfcserbia

When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 15:35 - Feb 22 by DJR

If you look at this from about 20 seconds in, you will see O'Shea is next to Moore when Taylor loses the header but loses concentration and his man and let's Moore get a head start.

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I thought yesterday was the worst game Furlong has played for us. But that first goal is completely Dara. He lost sight of Moore, was too slow to catch up with him (200lbs 33 year old) and pointed to Kipre to go off (which is the biggest mind*uck cause there was noone else there except Moore). Walton didn't help either but for me it's Dara's goal.

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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 16:07 - Feb 22 with 1179 viewsRadlett_blue

When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 11:17 - Feb 22 by StokieBlue

He only did it when he was already out of position and had no hope of intercepting.

Hopeful attempts at offside in those circumstances.

You probably noticed it more yesterday because he was out of position a lot more yesterday.

SB


O'Shea had an absolute shocker. Arguably culpable for 4 of Wrexham's goals.

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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 16:23 - Feb 22 with 1135 viewslazyblue

When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 11:17 - Feb 22 by StokieBlue

He only did it when he was already out of position and had no hope of intercepting.

Hopeful attempts at offside in those circumstances.

You probably noticed it more yesterday because he was out of position a lot more yesterday.

SB


He did it as pulled out of position as no right back and wanted someone to cover him, nothing to do with offside.
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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 16:35 - Feb 22 with 1093 viewsStokieBlue

When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 16:23 - Feb 22 by lazyblue

He did it as pulled out of position as no right back and wanted someone to cover him, nothing to do with offside.


Fair point but there was already cover there, what there wasn't was O'Shea getting closer to Moore to stop the shot.

He did it multiple other times as well I believe as did Furlong.

SB
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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 17:21 - Feb 22 with 1034 viewsBenters

I’ve watched the highlights a few times doing that with your arm is odd.

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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 17:25 - Feb 22 with 1027 viewsDJR

When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 17:21 - Feb 22 by Benters

I’ve watched the highlights a few times doing that with your arm is odd.


I think he was trying to indicate to Kipre that if he went where he pointed, he would have a stunning view of Moore's goal.
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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 17:29 - Feb 22 with 1006 viewsBenters

When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 17:25 - Feb 22 by DJR

I think he was trying to indicate to Kipre that if he went where he pointed, he would have a stunning view of Moore's goal.



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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 18:02 - Feb 22 with 939 viewsredrickstuhaart

When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 15:35 - Feb 22 by DJR

If you look at this from about 20 seconds in, you will see O'Shea is next to Moore when Taylor loses the header but loses concentration and his man and let's Moore get a head start.

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That would be forgiveable, perhaps, if he's actually then put pressure on Moore rather than slowing down and pointing.

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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 18:03 - Feb 22 with 937 viewsquad

Agreed, he was pointing to someone else to cover his position.

I think that he thought the angle was far too tight for Moore to score from, so he kinda let him go, thinking Walton would have had the near post covered, unfortunately he was wrong. Moore did leather it though to be fair.
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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 18:05 - Feb 22 with 932 viewsmrshallisfit

When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 15:02 - Feb 22 by StokieBlue

From memory, he did it a number of times yesterday.

It really was a shocker from him.

Interestingly (or not), Furlong also stuck his arm up to claim offside when it looked like he could have easily intercepted the ball and they should have scored but for a poor finish.

Strange game from the defence yesterday.

SB


If by strange you mean shi#e, then yes. Moore and co. ripped our defence a new one yesterday.
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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 18:06 - Feb 22 with 928 viewsRetroBlue

Watching woolfie maybe?

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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 18:12 - Feb 22 with 907 viewsDJR

When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 18:02 - Feb 22 by redrickstuhaart

That would be forgiveable, perhaps, if he's actually then put pressure on Moore rather than slowing down and pointing.


To paraphrase Lady Brackett in the Importance of Being Earnest.

"To make one mistake in the lead up to a goal, Mr. Worthing, may be regarded as a misfortune; to make two looks like carelessness,"

I did actually think that Kipre would have been the best person to challenge Moore given the position he was coming from but he was waved away. And it is curious to me that both Walton and O'Shea didn't seem to anticipate that Moore could shoot.

But I suppose these things happen in football, and let's hope yesterday was the day when all our misfortunes came together, and that we've used up all our mistakes for the season.

The club will certainly be taking a very close look over what happened, but it has to be said that Moore's performance yesterday was one of the best from a striker I have seen in person for a long time.
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When did O’Shea start raising his arm constantly on 21:49 - Feb 22 with 725 viewsGarv

He's telling Kipre what position to be in, and trying not to over commit and limit Moore's options for a pass or pull back. He shouldn't be scoring from there, that's on Walton.

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