| Running towards adversity 09:47 - Mar 25 with 2981 views | RetroBlue |
So where is Mr Ashton in all this adversity?
His silence is deafening.....never slow to put himself up front in the good times is he. So come on Mark, let's hear from you. Its your club apparently!
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| Running towards adversity on 10:01 - Mar 25 with 2518 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
You've been complaining - in several posts - about all this stuff... and yet here you are adding another thread to it! |  |
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| Running towards adversity on 10:03 - Mar 25 with 2503 views | itfcsuth |
The club have issued a statement, reaffirming that the club is apolitical, and is an all inclusive football club.
Job done, nothing else required, nothing illegal has happened here. A political figure has been around the football club, which has happened many times before from different political parties. |  | | |
| Running towards adversity on 10:05 - Mar 25 with 2479 views | DanTheMan |
| Running towards adversity on 10:03 - Mar 25 by itfcsuth |
The club have issued a statement, reaffirming that the club is apolitical, and is an all inclusive football club.
Job done, nothing else required, nothing illegal has happened here. A political figure has been around the football club, which has happened many times before from different political parties. |
Actions > words.
Very easy to say you're all about diversity and inclusion until you actually have to stand up for those principles. |  |
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| Running towards adversity on 10:41 - Mar 25 with 2333 views | darkhorse28 |
What happens when an entire club is built around one giant (not elite) EGO.
Zero oversight is/was/and remains (no pun intended) the issue.
He’s been allowed to run us like his own vanity project.
This is OUR CLUB and it’s time to reclaim it. Players (existing and potential signings) coaches, managers. Sponsors, there are consequences that could destroy this club!!! It’s that serious.
And they won’t say why, we’ll just be fishing in a much smaller bind for our talent from now on!!!
Ashton is toxic - yet he always was, wanting us to sing ‘shit on the Villa
At the promotion party, speak a million words about who he is. What he is!!!
TOXIC.
In the summer he HAS to go and the owners, they’re clearly not capable of providing the oversight required, more senior football people who are actually elite required.
Go get Edu. Let’s be serious, rather than a national disgrace and laughing stock.
If Ashton stays…, we’ll be in terminal decline…, he’s made us untouchable. All so he can have a career after football!!! He was always like this. Many ignored it because it wasn’t a popular narrative, they have skin in this game too. We need SCRUTINY BEFORE someone blows the entire future of the club up.
Would imagine Marks trying to find a scapegoat to throw under the bus as we speak!!!! Won’t be the one man who makes EVERY decision at the club will it.
He HAS to go (in the summer). Season tickets too …, I don’t believe in not renewing etc BUT if that prick is still here, we’ll need to make a statement someone to the club that it is NOT OK |  | | |
| Running towards adversity on 11:07 - Mar 25 with 2230 views | OldFart71 |
I think some need something else to take their minds off trivial things.
Whilst many may point to things that Farage is, has done or might do. He is a leader of a political party. Just as Gerry Adams is/was part of Sinn Fein.
I don't see many complaining about an alleged sympathiser of the IRA, although admittedly and thankfully he didn't visit PR.
Also there are many that are supporters of Farage mainly because the two main political parties won't get a grip on issues that affect us all. You decide what they are ?
Those that are decrying Farage being allowed at PR are making a mountain out of a molehill.
What would the outcry have been had the Greens or Labour asked to use PR facilities and the club turned them down. They would have been accused of political bias.
In the world of business money is king whether we agree or not. If the Cobbold is redeveloped it will be used to make money outside of football.
Arms are supplied by Britain to countries where many are killed by those armaments, but if we don't supply them then someone else will. It is unfortunately a fact of life whether we like it or not. | | | |
| Running towards adversity on 11:11 - Mar 25 with 2207 views | itfcsuth |
| Running towards adversity on 10:05 - Mar 25 by DanTheMan |
Actions > words.
Very easy to say you're all about diversity and inclusion until you actually have to stand up for those principles. |
The club is a multi cultural football club, it had it's football for refugee programme, it supports community initiatives through it's foundation.
The club very much demonstrates and promotes inclusivity through the work it does, as it should and will continue to do. | | | |
| Running towards adversity on 11:12 - Mar 25 with 2182 views | waveneyblue |
| Running towards adversity on 10:41 - Mar 25 by darkhorse28 |
What happens when an entire club is built around one giant (not elite) EGO.
Zero oversight is/was/and remains (no pun intended) the issue.
He’s been allowed to run us like his own vanity project.
This is OUR CLUB and it’s time to reclaim it. Players (existing and potential signings) coaches, managers. Sponsors, there are consequences that could destroy this club!!! It’s that serious.
And they won’t say why, we’ll just be fishing in a much smaller bind for our talent from now on!!!
Ashton is toxic - yet he always was, wanting us to sing ‘shit on the Villa
At the promotion party, speak a million words about who he is. What he is!!!
TOXIC.
In the summer he HAS to go and the owners, they’re clearly not capable of providing the oversight required, more senior football people who are actually elite required.
Go get Edu. Let’s be serious, rather than a national disgrace and laughing stock.
If Ashton stays…, we’ll be in terminal decline…, he’s made us untouchable. All so he can have a career after football!!! He was always like this. Many ignored it because it wasn’t a popular narrative, they have skin in this game too. We need SCRUTINY BEFORE someone blows the entire future of the club up.
Would imagine Marks trying to find a scapegoat to throw under the bus as we speak!!!! Won’t be the one man who makes EVERY decision at the club will it.
He HAS to go (in the summer). Season tickets too …, I don’t believe in not renewing etc BUT if that prick is still here, we’ll need to make a statement someone to the club that it is NOT OK |
Here it is,
Wondering when you would rise from your stable to add your twopennth.
Sadly, as the angstomiter is exploding, you will probably get some support for your repetitive tripe. [Post edited 25 Mar 11:14]
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| Running towards adversity on 11:16 - Mar 25 with 2151 views | muccletonjoe |
| Running towards adversity on 10:03 - Mar 25 by itfcsuth |
The club have issued a statement, reaffirming that the club is apolitical, and is an all inclusive football club.
Job done, nothing else required, nothing illegal has happened here. A political figure has been around the football club, which has happened many times before from different political parties. |
Thats probably what the club are thinking. Which is yet another mistake |  | | |
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| Running towards adversity on 11:21 - Mar 25 with 2086 views | portmanking |
| Running towards adversity on 10:05 - Mar 25 by DanTheMan |
Actions > words.
Very easy to say you're all about diversity and inclusion until you actually have to stand up for those principles. |
So the actions of the club prior to this meeting under Gamechanger have suggested they *don't* stand up for those principles? Or is it more the case that they've done so much good for the town and the wider county and this is simply one gross misjudgement that was hugely manipulated by the other party concerned? [Post edited 25 Mar 11:22]
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| Running towards adversity on 11:32 - Mar 25 with 2045 views | itfc1108 |
| Running towards adversity on 10:41 - Mar 25 by darkhorse28 |
What happens when an entire club is built around one giant (not elite) EGO.
Zero oversight is/was/and remains (no pun intended) the issue.
He’s been allowed to run us like his own vanity project.
This is OUR CLUB and it’s time to reclaim it. Players (existing and potential signings) coaches, managers. Sponsors, there are consequences that could destroy this club!!! It’s that serious.
And they won’t say why, we’ll just be fishing in a much smaller bind for our talent from now on!!!
Ashton is toxic - yet he always was, wanting us to sing ‘shit on the Villa
At the promotion party, speak a million words about who he is. What he is!!!
TOXIC.
In the summer he HAS to go and the owners, they’re clearly not capable of providing the oversight required, more senior football people who are actually elite required.
Go get Edu. Let’s be serious, rather than a national disgrace and laughing stock.
If Ashton stays…, we’ll be in terminal decline…, he’s made us untouchable. All so he can have a career after football!!! He was always like this. Many ignored it because it wasn’t a popular narrative, they have skin in this game too. We need SCRUTINY BEFORE someone blows the entire future of the club up.
Would imagine Marks trying to find a scapegoat to throw under the bus as we speak!!!! Won’t be the one man who makes EVERY decision at the club will it.
He HAS to go (in the summer). Season tickets too …, I don’t believe in not renewing etc BUT if that prick is still here, we’ll need to make a statement someone to the club that it is NOT OK |
I must say, I was quite envious when Derby got their new owner a couple of years ago.
I can't remember his name or what line of what business he made his money in, but he is a local business owner, and supporter, who has done very well for himself.
All these different people and funds, and stakeholders we have really confuse me.
I've never liked all of this corporate stuff that goes on in football today, and some is necessary, but Ashton courts most of it [Post edited 25 Mar 11:35]
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| Running towards adversity on 13:52 - Mar 25 with 1899 views | DanTheMan |
| Running towards adversity on 11:21 - Mar 25 by portmanking |
So the actions of the club prior to this meeting under Gamechanger have suggested they *don't* stand up for those principles? Or is it more the case that they've done so much good for the town and the wider county and this is simply one gross misjudgement that was hugely manipulated by the other party concerned? [Post edited 25 Mar 11:22]
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But they get positive publicity from these things, they look good. That's why lots of corporations will do them. You only need to look at what they old did in American when Trump came in, immediately abandoning those apparently important principles when it became convienent.
Or on a football note, look at Mr. LGBTQ+ Henderson who was proudly a supporter for them right up until there was some more money to be made.
Making the hard decisions is where it matters. Ones where you might actually have to defend your principles. | |
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| Running towards adversity on 17:46 - Mar 25 with 1781 views | ITFCSG |
The least he could do is to explain the signed shirt.
Having an autographed shirt handed to him by Farage stating "To Mark" speaks volumes. If Ashton wants to support Reform in his private capacity he is very well entitled to like any other private citizen of this country but by using his position of ITFC CEO to de facto endorse Farage with the whole shirt signing video and indulging Reform to use the Club for their propaganda then he can just f00k off.
Address the issue or step down. | | | |
| Running towards adversity on 17:47 - Mar 25 with 1762 views | Zx1988 |
| Running towards adversity on 13:52 - Mar 25 by DanTheMan |
But they get positive publicity from these things, they look good. That's why lots of corporations will do them. You only need to look at what they old did in American when Trump came in, immediately abandoning those apparently important principles when it became convienent.
Or on a football note, look at Mr. LGBTQ+ Henderson who was proudly a supporter for them right up until there was some more money to be made.
Making the hard decisions is where it matters. Ones where you might actually have to defend your principles. |
What was it someone once said?
Doing the right thing when nobody's looking? | |
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| Running towards adversity on 17:53 - Mar 25 with 1704 views | bazza |
The more People Bang on about it, the more life is breathed in to it, and the more publicity reform gets, also There’s 6000 fans waiting for season tickets apparently .. he won’t care about a few people saying they will boycott the club on a fans forum. You’re just a number lad, time for it
To become fish and chip paper. |  | | |
| Running towards adversity on 17:54 - Mar 25 with 1683 views | GeoffSentence |
| Running towards adversity on 11:07 - Mar 25 by OldFart71 |
I think some need something else to take their minds off trivial things.
Whilst many may point to things that Farage is, has done or might do. He is a leader of a political party. Just as Gerry Adams is/was part of Sinn Fein.
I don't see many complaining about an alleged sympathiser of the IRA, although admittedly and thankfully he didn't visit PR.
Also there are many that are supporters of Farage mainly because the two main political parties won't get a grip on issues that affect us all. You decide what they are ?
Those that are decrying Farage being allowed at PR are making a mountain out of a molehill.
What would the outcry have been had the Greens or Labour asked to use PR facilities and the club turned them down. They would have been accused of political bias.
In the world of business money is king whether we agree or not. If the Cobbold is redeveloped it will be used to make money outside of football.
Arms are supplied by Britain to countries where many are killed by those armaments, but if we don't supply them then someone else will. It is unfortunately a fact of life whether we like it or not. |
The club are being used to support a political party during an election campaign.
That's bad enough.
Then claiming to be apolitical despite the overt political campaigning that they have allowed and not objected to is deceitful. |  |
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| Running towards adversity on 18:02 - Mar 25 with 1614 views | RedX |
Do some Town supporters really want Ashton to leave because of this?
Pure nonsense. |  | | |
| Running towards adversity on 18:08 - Mar 25 with 1576 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Running towards adversity on 18:02 - Mar 25 by RedX |
Do some Town supporters really want Ashton to leave because of this?
Pure nonsense. |
It's becoming apparent that no matter who is directly responsible for this, there's a good number who are desperate for it to be all Ashton's fault and put him in bed (figuratively), with Farage. |  |
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| Running towards adversity on 18:29 - Mar 25 with 1465 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Running towards adversity on 17:46 - Mar 25 by ITFCSG |
The least he could do is to explain the signed shirt.
Having an autographed shirt handed to him by Farage stating "To Mark" speaks volumes. If Ashton wants to support Reform in his private capacity he is very well entitled to like any other private citizen of this country but by using his position of ITFC CEO to de facto endorse Farage with the whole shirt signing video and indulging Reform to use the Club for their propaganda then he can just f00k off.
Address the issue or step down. |
Sorry, where's this video of Ashton having a shirt signed by Farage and then handed to him? | |
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| Running towards adversity on 19:48 - Mar 25 with 1229 views | RetroBlue |
| Running towards adversity on 10:01 - Mar 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You've been complaining - in several posts - about all this stuff... and yet here you are adding another thread to it! |
I dont think I've once mentioned the politician's name or his party. Ive actually been trying to not give them the publicity they are craving. But all people like you do is criticise me for doing so.
Im a bit confused as to why you'd criticise a fan who is not impressed with the club's involvement in this farce, and have left themselves wide open for national adverse publicity. You okay with it all then?
Furthermore, its Interesting that you criticise my post "where's the football gone", saying " just as well", because on your opinion I'm negative....but you've actually up voted a fair number of my posts in the past. So I cant be getting it all wrong! | |
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| Running towards adversity on 20:01 - Mar 25 with 1124 views | waveneyblue |
| Running towards adversity on 18:08 - Mar 25 by Cheltenham_Blue |
It's becoming apparent that no matter who is directly responsible for this, there's a good number who are desperate for it to be all Ashton's fault and put him in bed (figuratively), with Farage. |
Oh yes, its an Ashton haters (of which bizarrely there seem to be quite a few) wet dream.
As i mentioned earlier, even Darkhorse is getting upvotes. | | | |
| Running towards adversity on 20:02 - Mar 25 with 1122 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Running towards adversity on 19:48 - Mar 25 by RetroBlue |
I dont think I've once mentioned the politician's name or his party. Ive actually been trying to not give them the publicity they are craving. But all people like you do is criticise me for doing so.
Im a bit confused as to why you'd criticise a fan who is not impressed with the club's involvement in this farce, and have left themselves wide open for national adverse publicity. You okay with it all then?
Furthermore, its Interesting that you criticise my post "where's the football gone", saying " just as well", because on your opinion I'm negative....but you've actually up voted a fair number of my posts in the past. So I cant be getting it all wrong! |
Well this post is all over the place.
Um, I haven't criticised you for mentioning the politician's name or his party. Nor have I criticised you for not being impressed with the club's involvement in this farce. So a couple of straw men there.
I'm criticising the fact that you didn't want all these political threads... and then started a political thread.
And whether or not I've uparrowed you in the past is neither here nor there. Your posting, in recent months if not the whole of this season, has been largely negative, from memory. | |
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| Running towards adversity on 20:03 - Mar 25 with 1113 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Running towards adversity on 18:29 - Mar 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Sorry, where's this video of Ashton having a shirt signed by Farage and then handed to him? |
A down arrow from ITFC2021, maybe you can link me to this video? | |
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| Running towards adversity on 20:14 - Mar 25 with 1044 views | RedX |
The left crowd are a very unforgiven crowd. They’ll now hound Ashton until the day he leaves the club. | | | |
| Running towards adversity on 21:12 - Mar 25 with 887 views | waveneyblue |
| Running towards adversity on 20:03 - Mar 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
A down arrow from ITFC2021, maybe you can link me to this video? |
They've been dishing out down arrows like confetti.
Interesting behaviour | | | |
| Running towards adversity on 21:30 - Mar 25 with 809 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Running towards adversity on 18:08 - Mar 25 by Cheltenham_Blue |
It's becoming apparent that no matter who is directly responsible for this, there's a good number who are desperate for it to be all Ashton's fault and put him in bed (figuratively), with Farage. |
I personally feel that even if it was a planet blue worker who arranged it all. M/A is the self chosen CEO & Chairman who's job he's incredibly highly paid for, should know what is happening in within the company he is running.
Sacked no imo
But the owners should 100% imo be making sure they bring in a chairman who can hold Ashton to account over action/inactions.
Having a chairman may also on the football front lead to a much better planned recruitment process.
So they may yet be a positive to all this shame. |  |
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