| The silent majority 10:20 - Mar 27 with 1385 views | muhrensleftfoot |
Of course I can’t be sure because the silent majority are “silent”, but almost everyone I’ve spoken to think this Farage business has been blown totally out of proportion. Yes the club was naive, but what a massive own goal it will be if the noisy keyboard warriors force the best CEO this club has ever had, to resign. |  | | |  |
| The silent majority on 10:23 - Mar 27 with 1310 views | urbanpenguin |
Wow, any more clichés you want to squeeze in? |  | | |
| The silent majority on 10:23 - Mar 27 with 1310 views | bartyg |
"People I socialise with hold similar opinions" more at 11, folks. |  |
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| The silent majority on 10:25 - Mar 27 with 1266 views | Pencilpete |
Plus anyone (like me) who dares to say this is called a fascist, a racist, a thicko by all the keyboard warriors on here ....
Oh and obviously if you think it's been blown out of proportion then you're clearly a Reform voter, a farage sympathiser and everything else they can think of as well
It's like a school playground |  | | |
| The silent majority on 10:25 - Mar 27 with 1271 views | Butterbing |
From Phil's article:
"Staff, the vast majority of whom were unaware of the visit, are said to have reacted angrily with some making complaints to the club’s human resources department.
The players are also understood to have been angry to have been associated with Reform without their knowledge and discussed the issue at training on Tuesday.
Prominent sponsors are also understood to have made contact to express their displeasure."
Yet your mates don't care so it's all OK. |  | | |
| The silent majority on 10:27 - Mar 27 with 1218 views | MattinLondon |
| The silent majority on 10:25 - Mar 27 by Pencilpete |
Plus anyone (like me) who dares to say this is called a fascist, a racist, a thicko by all the keyboard warriors on here ....
Oh and obviously if you think it's been blown out of proportion then you're clearly a Reform voter, a farage sympathiser and everything else they can think of as well
It's like a school playground |
And you know what also happens in a school playground - kids make stuff up. |  | | |
| The silent majority on 10:28 - Mar 27 with 1215 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
You should speak to better people then. |  | | |
| The silent majority on 10:31 - Mar 27 with 1184 views | LeightonBuzzardBlue |
| The silent majority on 10:25 - Mar 27 by Butterbing |
From Phil's article:
"Staff, the vast majority of whom were unaware of the visit, are said to have reacted angrily with some making complaints to the club’s human resources department.
The players are also understood to have been angry to have been associated with Reform without their knowledge and discussed the issue at training on Tuesday.
Prominent sponsors are also understood to have made contact to express their displeasure."
Yet your mates don't care so it's all OK. |
Spot on.
The fans displeasure won't help Ashton, but the players / staff / sponsors being unhappy is the reason why he'll lose his job |  | | |
| The silent majority on 10:31 - Mar 27 with 1180 views | N2_Blue |
Nearly everyone I've spoken to are the opposite and are disgusted, and that's a mixture of Town fans and non-Town fans.
The best CEO we've ever had? Appointing Mckenna was a masterstroke but everything else could be scrutinised. He's secured good investment, but once we were on an upward curve that's not particularly difficult in football.
Player recruitemnt (which i also know falls on McKenna) has been quite hit and miss.
Ground developments etc. - it's pretty easy to spend other people's money.
And look at what all previous clubs say about him.
He's done a lot of good, no denying that but Ipswich Town will still be able to thrive without Mark Ashton and hopefully the club can learn and never be in the postion of where the CEO and Chairman are effectively the same person - that's been a huge huge mistake unfortunately. Things have never been the same since O'Leary left. |  |
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| The silent majority on 10:39 - Mar 27 with 1088 views | Guthrum |
The silent majority does not really exist. It is a fiction dreamt up by Richard Nixon* to faux-confirm backing for his escalation of the Vietnam War.
* Now he awas an honest and straightforward fellow ... |  |
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| The silent majority on 10:49 - Mar 27 with 1005 views | thebooks |
One positive thing about this about this debacle is that most people on here have been (rightly) appalled by the whole thing, regardless of apparent political views  |  | | |
| The silent majority on 10:50 - Mar 27 with 992 views | keighleyblue |
Good to know you speak for the 'silent majority' whose opinions seem to be the only ones that count. |  | | |
| The silent majority on 10:50 - Mar 27 with 978 views | darkhorse28 |
Best CEO we ever had - there’s a reason most of them never operated in the third division, and in a 35 year career Ashton has had one elite season, and it was the wirst in the clubs history.
Are you sure, as a measure, that’s best?
Honestly, there’s low IQ and then there’s this. These are measures, football has levels.
Not understanding how football works might explain how you don’t understand commercial reality either. This has nothing to do with party politics, or shouldn’t, it’s so divisive and why 100% of other clubs and bakers avoid it - precisely because the commercial impact is profound.
No club in English football has lower brand equity and commercial value than WE do right now. Not because of THE party, because of how tribal and reductive ALL party politics.
So how did the best CEO take a club worth £500 million, make it impossible to sell, ensure many of its managers, coaches, players want to leave because they’re all now worth less off th pitch than they were last week, and make joining our club, commercially, not politically, impossible to join!!
Thinking that’s ’elite’ does explain how you fell in love with Marks ego.
Agents, coaches, managers. Players…, sponsors - OWNERS .., when they get hit in the pocket, there are consequences.., if they don’t act, those consequences will be a slow but significant commercial decline.
Considering Ashton is struggling to be a success with THREE times the resources of everyone else in the league, ca I suggest he might struggle when he had half their resources?
If you want to put your party politics in front of your football team, that’s fine, you do you!
Remember this though - you made that choice, and it was a choice you never had to make, football ist about politics, it never was, or should be.
YOU made this choice…, to destroy OUR football club for what …, for politics.., nobody wins.., nobody.
A club destroyed because your ego is bigger than your IQ.., imagine throwing your club under the bus to play party political games .., we’re a nations laughing stock of a club.., not because of Nigel, but because yno club in history has been this THICK, STUPiD, REDUCTIVE, and I’m professional .., none.., ever.
You call that elite. The whole football world laughs .., me, I cry. Our club meant something, it was a football club, I’d buy you a pint, a pie, laugh with you, share and make memories and share OUR passion.
I couldn’t care less what your politics are, once we cross that threshold it has zero importance to me.., I just want to support our team with you!
You’ve trashed that if you support playing politics with football, if you don’t see the consequences for revenue, player ID and retention, managers ID and retention, REVENUE - if you don’t get that, then I don’t want to support th same club as you!
Not because of politics. But because youre so THICK AS PIG SHIT you’re destroying our club! OUR club, not Ashton FC, OURS.
This is about judgement, revenue, our ability to be a succesful club NOT party politics. Left and Right want to make it about politics, and it’s not.
These actions have killed our brand, our club, our future. Wake up!!
ASHTON OUT - and you can feck off with him .., tell Watford, Wycombe. And 35 years of (mostly) failure he’s the best in the business. | | | |
| The silent majority on 10:52 - Mar 27 with 962 views | Herbivore |
Everyone I've spoken to is pretty miffed and sees this as massively tarnishing our reputation. That's why it's not a good idea to base your view on what most people think off "my mate says....". |  |
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| The silent majority on 10:53 - Mar 27 with 947 views | positivity |
the only keyboard warriors are the vanishingly small (and decreasing) angry men trying to concoct new weird ways of supporting ashton (against the views of the fans, the local media, and his own staff and players who've complained to hr about him) | |
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| The silent majority on 10:58 - Mar 27 with 875 views | bluester |
| The silent majority on 10:25 - Mar 27 by Pencilpete |
Plus anyone (like me) who dares to say this is called a fascist, a racist, a thicko by all the keyboard warriors on here ....
Oh and obviously if you think it's been blown out of proportion then you're clearly a Reform voter, a farage sympathiser and everything else they can think of as well
It's like a school playground |
Has anyone actually called you a fascist or a racist? | | | |
| The silent majority on 11:01 - Mar 27 with 848 views | EatonBlue |
I am in agreement with you. Yes, it was a huge error of judgement but not a resigning issue in my opinion. And there is not a better CEO out there. That said, an apology is needed sooner rather than later and it should come from the Club's Owners. The important thing now is to focus on a successful finish to the season for both the mens and womens teams. |  | | |
| The silent majority on 11:04 - Mar 27 with 797 views | StokieBlue |
| The silent majority on 11:01 - Mar 27 by EatonBlue |
I am in agreement with you. Yes, it was a huge error of judgement but not a resigning issue in my opinion. And there is not a better CEO out there. That said, an apology is needed sooner rather than later and it should come from the Club's Owners. The important thing now is to focus on a successful finish to the season for both the mens and womens teams. |
You're not bothered about the outright lying to fans then?
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| The silent majority on 12:23 - Mar 27 with 574 views | lazyblue |
It has , spoke to friends family in ipswich who support town from 10years to 40 years and none of us are at all bothered about this . | | | |
| The silent majority on 12:46 - Mar 27 with 493 views | Charlie_pl_baxter |
| The silent majority on 11:01 - Mar 27 by EatonBlue |
I am in agreement with you. Yes, it was a huge error of judgement but not a resigning issue in my opinion. And there is not a better CEO out there. That said, an apology is needed sooner rather than later and it should come from the Club's Owners. The important thing now is to focus on a successful finish to the season for both the mens and womens teams. |
Why should the owners apologize for something they didn't do? That said if/when Ashton goes I'd expect then to apologize on behalf of the club at that point. |  |
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| The silent majority on 12:51 - Mar 27 with 452 views | witchdoctor |
| The silent majority on 12:23 - Mar 27 by lazyblue |
It has , spoke to friends family in ipswich who support town from 10years to 40 years and none of us are at all bothered about this . |
that’s my take as well.. |  | | |
| The silent majority on 12:52 - Mar 27 with 439 views | SuperBlue1998 |
In all honestly I think the thing that's escalated it (or "blown it out of proportion" if you'd prefer) is the response and cover up - not the initial fans' reaction. With a more astute statement or apology I think he'd keep his job pretty easily. It's untenable now | | | |
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