| If Ashton left, where would he land? 13:15 - Apr 17 with 2167 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Noticed that the Huddersfield CEO left yesterday.
Ambitious club, back by an American billionaire. Would be a good fit for both. |  |
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| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 13:24 - Apr 17 with 1773 views | backwaywhen |
In your head ….. |  | | |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 13:25 - Apr 17 with 1770 views | Zx1988 |
Not sure he'd last five minutes with those straight-talking no-nonsense Yorkshire types.
They'd eat him for breakfast. | |
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| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 13:56 - Apr 17 with 1644 views | exeterblue10 |
The Office, Series 3 | | | |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 13:57 - Apr 17 with 1634 views | bsw72 |
I'm not sure why people think that Ashton will leave?
His performance will be measured by his bosses through club success over time, not a single issue, if we miss out on promotion then his position will be weaker but if we get promoted then his stock with club owners will be higher than ever - why get rid of him and go through the hassle of bringing in somone new?
CEO of a club with 3 promotions in 4 years, good squad and manager, stable financially.
His bosses will consider the mess caused by the Reform visit and how it was handled in the past already. |  | | |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 14:02 - Apr 17 with 1594 views | Blueschev |
Reform Parliamentary candidate for West Bromwich? |  | | |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 14:03 - Apr 17 with 1597 views | Zx1988 |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 13:57 - Apr 17 by bsw72 |
I'm not sure why people think that Ashton will leave?
His performance will be measured by his bosses through club success over time, not a single issue, if we miss out on promotion then his position will be weaker but if we get promoted then his stock with club owners will be higher than ever - why get rid of him and go through the hassle of bringing in somone new?
CEO of a club with 3 promotions in 4 years, good squad and manager, stable financially.
His bosses will consider the mess caused by the Reform visit and how it was handled in the past already. |
That doesn't sound as if it's the case.
One poster on here has said today that a talks with one of the sponsors are still ongoing, as a direct result of the Führage debacle.
Given the names that have been mentioned by Phil - Halo, University of Suffolk, and Ed Sheeran - it's probably a hefty sponsor, and losing them or having to agree lesser terms would probably be a very black mark on Ashton's copy-book. | |
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| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 14:18 - Apr 17 with 1517 views | tractorboy1978 |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 14:03 - Apr 17 by Zx1988 |
That doesn't sound as if it's the case.
One poster on here has said today that a talks with one of the sponsors are still ongoing, as a direct result of the Führage debacle.
Given the names that have been mentioned by Phil - Halo, University of Suffolk, and Ed Sheeran - it's probably a hefty sponsor, and losing them or having to agree lesser terms would probably be a very black mark on Ashton's copy-book. |
We will see how it all falls out and lands but I'd be amazed if Ashton goes in the summer. He's done a fantastic job for these investors by virtually every metric and is well embedded with them. Bare in mind his relationship with the 3 Lions and ORG dates back to before their investment here and they've said before they invested in him as well as the club.
He might have made a boo-boo but replacing a trusted CEO that has repeatedly delivered for them is not a decision they will take lightly with the plans they have for the club. [Post edited 17 Apr 14:19]
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| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 14:32 - Apr 17 with 1451 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 13:57 - Apr 17 by bsw72 |
I'm not sure why people think that Ashton will leave?
His performance will be measured by his bosses through club success over time, not a single issue, if we miss out on promotion then his position will be weaker but if we get promoted then his stock with club owners will be higher than ever - why get rid of him and go through the hassle of bringing in somone new?
CEO of a club with 3 promotions in 4 years, good squad and manager, stable financially.
His bosses will consider the mess caused by the Reform visit and how it was handled in the past already. |
Hence the use of 'if' rather than 'when'.
He's done OK, but no one is unsackable. His cover up showed his true character, and was an embarrassment to the club.
I think his best work is behind him. He has ridden on KM's coat tails. | |
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| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 14:41 - Apr 17 with 1419 views | RetroBlue |
He land on.the next big pay cheque / backers to spend their money at will... |  |
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| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 14:49 - Apr 17 with 1389 views | NthQldITFC |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 14:18 - Apr 17 by tractorboy1978 |
We will see how it all falls out and lands but I'd be amazed if Ashton goes in the summer. He's done a fantastic job for these investors by virtually every metric and is well embedded with them. Bare in mind his relationship with the 3 Lions and ORG dates back to before their investment here and they've said before they invested in him as well as the club.
He might have made a boo-boo but replacing a trusted CEO that has repeatedly delivered for them is not a decision they will take lightly with the plans they have for the club. [Post edited 17 Apr 14:19]
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Musing out loud, my reaction to Fuhragegate was on the very angry end of the spectrum, but that anger has eased a fair bit now. In those first few days I was desperate, I mean truly fkn desperate on behalf of my football club, for Ashton to come out and say "I'm sorry, I made a big mistake, this is what I'm going to do to compensate for it and to make sure it doesn't happen again"
Obviously that didn't happen, and I thought that the bloke's deceit, weasel words and cowardly hiding away from the issue were irredeemable betrayals of trust and indeed of the club motto promoted so strongly by himself.
But I found myself just now wondering if there is still a way back for Ashton here. It slightly mirrors a personal issue I've had with someone whose character I know well, and whose deteriorating behaviour to everyone around him I clearly see as the inevitable direction of travel of a narcissist whose reflection looks less and less real to himself. No redemption there, because I know the character so well over such a long period of time.
I suppose because the Ashton situation is not personal to me, I'm wondering if he can redeem himself here? It would take a massive apology, a real openness about what happened and why he couldn't come clean about it straight away. (It would also take the appointment of a chairman to oversee his role in the future.) The question I ask myself is "would I be massively naive to think that I could trust Ashton to continue to run our football club?" I don't know if I truly know the answer to that question. |  |
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| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 14:50 - Apr 17 with 1381 views | J2BLUE |
Somewhere they have the money and ambition to want to do what we did.
Birmingham. Wrexham.
Or other big clubs in the division. Derby etc. |  |
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| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 15:02 - Apr 17 with 1321 views | positivity |
be fun if he went back to brizzle | |
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| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 15:08 - Apr 17 with 1289 views | ghostofescobar |
On his feet. |  |
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| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 15:09 - Apr 17 with 1283 views | exeterblue10 |
Ashton Villa obvs | | | |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 15:14 - Apr 17 with 1260 views | Keno |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 15:09 - Apr 17 by exeterblue10 |
Ashton Villa obvs |
Isnt there a team with an entrance way named after him? |  |
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| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 15:18 - Apr 17 with 1240 views | NthQldITFC |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 15:14 - Apr 17 by Keno |
Isnt there a team with an entrance way named after him? |
Brentford? | |
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| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 15:27 - Apr 17 with 1201 views | tractorboy1978 |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 14:49 - Apr 17 by NthQldITFC |
Musing out loud, my reaction to Fuhragegate was on the very angry end of the spectrum, but that anger has eased a fair bit now. In those first few days I was desperate, I mean truly fkn desperate on behalf of my football club, for Ashton to come out and say "I'm sorry, I made a big mistake, this is what I'm going to do to compensate for it and to make sure it doesn't happen again"
Obviously that didn't happen, and I thought that the bloke's deceit, weasel words and cowardly hiding away from the issue were irredeemable betrayals of trust and indeed of the club motto promoted so strongly by himself.
But I found myself just now wondering if there is still a way back for Ashton here. It slightly mirrors a personal issue I've had with someone whose character I know well, and whose deteriorating behaviour to everyone around him I clearly see as the inevitable direction of travel of a narcissist whose reflection looks less and less real to himself. No redemption there, because I know the character so well over such a long period of time.
I suppose because the Ashton situation is not personal to me, I'm wondering if he can redeem himself here? It would take a massive apology, a real openness about what happened and why he couldn't come clean about it straight away. (It would also take the appointment of a chairman to oversee his role in the future.) The question I ask myself is "would I be massively naive to think that I could trust Ashton to continue to run our football club?" I don't know if I truly know the answer to that question. |
I think the only reason they would push him out would be if him being here were to mean it hits us financially in a meaningful way. Which I just don't see it doing. They will sell out season tickets this summer (even with a price increase) and it won't affect the vast majority of people's spending patterns on merchandise when push comes to shove.
Maybe a few sponsors draw a line and say they won't put money in. That is chicken feed though, especially if we go up. There will be no lack of sponsors for a PL club.
It would be a bigger issue for them if they replace him and the next CEO isn't as competent when it comes to running the club day to day and managing the vast number of projects they have on-going. He is an experienced, well respected operator in the industry even if many fans don't take to him. | | | |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 18:27 - Apr 17 with 982 views | RetroBlue |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 15:27 - Apr 17 by tractorboy1978 |
I think the only reason they would push him out would be if him being here were to mean it hits us financially in a meaningful way. Which I just don't see it doing. They will sell out season tickets this summer (even with a price increase) and it won't affect the vast majority of people's spending patterns on merchandise when push comes to shove.
Maybe a few sponsors draw a line and say they won't put money in. That is chicken feed though, especially if we go up. There will be no lack of sponsors for a PL club.
It would be a bigger issue for them if they replace him and the next CEO isn't as competent when it comes to running the club day to day and managing the vast number of projects they have on-going. He is an experienced, well respected operator in the industry even if many fans don't take to him. |
He's arrogant | |
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| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 19:00 - Apr 17 with 930 views | Dubtractor |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 15:18 - Apr 17 by NthQldITFC |
Brentford? |
Top darts. |  |
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| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 19:07 - Apr 17 with 900 views | 66notout |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 13:57 - Apr 17 by bsw72 |
I'm not sure why people think that Ashton will leave?
His performance will be measured by his bosses through club success over time, not a single issue, if we miss out on promotion then his position will be weaker but if we get promoted then his stock with club owners will be higher than ever - why get rid of him and go through the hassle of bringing in somone new?
CEO of a club with 3 promotions in 4 years, good squad and manager, stable financially.
His bosses will consider the mess caused by the Reform visit and how it was handled in the past already. |
Stable financially? Please show your workings. [Post edited 17 Apr 19:08]
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| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 20:18 - Apr 17 with 779 views | Guthrum |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 14:49 - Apr 17 by NthQldITFC |
Musing out loud, my reaction to Fuhragegate was on the very angry end of the spectrum, but that anger has eased a fair bit now. In those first few days I was desperate, I mean truly fkn desperate on behalf of my football club, for Ashton to come out and say "I'm sorry, I made a big mistake, this is what I'm going to do to compensate for it and to make sure it doesn't happen again"
Obviously that didn't happen, and I thought that the bloke's deceit, weasel words and cowardly hiding away from the issue were irredeemable betrayals of trust and indeed of the club motto promoted so strongly by himself.
But I found myself just now wondering if there is still a way back for Ashton here. It slightly mirrors a personal issue I've had with someone whose character I know well, and whose deteriorating behaviour to everyone around him I clearly see as the inevitable direction of travel of a narcissist whose reflection looks less and less real to himself. No redemption there, because I know the character so well over such a long period of time.
I suppose because the Ashton situation is not personal to me, I'm wondering if he can redeem himself here? It would take a massive apology, a real openness about what happened and why he couldn't come clean about it straight away. (It would also take the appointment of a chairman to oversee his role in the future.) The question I ask myself is "would I be massively naive to think that I could trust Ashton to continue to run our football club?" I don't know if I truly know the answer to that question. |
I still trust Ashton to run the football club - it's clearly something he's very good at.
Question is more if I (and other fans) would trust that there are no more events of this sort. If he stays, I would want stronger oversight - intall a separate Chairman to keep things on the straight and narrow.
For those of us not fans of Farage, the lack of proper explanation has left concerns over the attitudes of some at the top of the club's administration. I don't want him to start taking ITFC down the route of Reform policy (e.g. anti-immigrant rhetoric, not paying taxes, reducing charitable involvement). Before all this, I wouldn't have dremt of doubting Ashton's commitment to inclusivity and community outreach. Now there is a seed of doubt. |  |
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| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 20:27 - Apr 17 with 727 views | Swansea_Blue |
CEO of the Football Lads Alliance?
Edit - you probably want a serious suggestion too. I wouldn’t be surprised if he looked to do a Sheepy and work his way into the leagues/FA setup somehow. As another example, Trevor Birch who was CEO over this way is now head of the EFL. [Post edited 17 Apr 20:31]
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| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 20:55 - Apr 17 with 684 views | WeWereZombies |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 20:27 - Apr 17 by Swansea_Blue |
CEO of the Football Lads Alliance?
Edit - you probably want a serious suggestion too. I wouldn’t be surprised if he looked to do a Sheepy and work his way into the leagues/FA setup somehow. As another example, Trevor Birch who was CEO over this way is now head of the EFL. [Post edited 17 Apr 20:31]
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So the administrations that are being called into question by legislation for a Football Regulator would appoint someone who appears to be meeting a dodgy 'politician' about derailing football regulation ? I think the EFL, FA and Premier League might steer clear of such an obvious own goal in terms of winding up the Government that they rely upon to allow their operation. And then there is the question of appointing someone who could be seen as having no political bias... |  |
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| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 22:42 - Apr 17 with 558 views | football |
He isn't going anywhere, One mistake but he has done so much good for the club that outshines one mistake | | | |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 22:56 - Apr 17 with 512 views | Swansea_Blue |
| If Ashton left, where would he land? on 20:55 - Apr 17 by WeWereZombies |
So the administrations that are being called into question by legislation for a Football Regulator would appoint someone who appears to be meeting a dodgy 'politician' about derailing football regulation ? I think the EFL, FA and Premier League might steer clear of such an obvious own goal in terms of winding up the Government that they rely upon to allow their operation. And then there is the question of appointing someone who could be seen as having no political bias... |
Well, yes. I’m not saying he’d be successful but I wouldn’t be surprised if his aspirations are towards governance at a higher level than clubs. Although for the most likely option, I doubt he’s going anywhere. | |
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