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What a surprise, its all part of the same State/Government system, they were never going to find against her. Same when Nadhim Zahawi didn't pay all his tax, surprise surprise they also found he was 'careless and not deliberate'. On the same level Zack Polanski, fails to pay his Council tax and apparently it was careless and not deliberate.
When it comes to Tax people in power are above the law. If it had been anyone outside of politics it will be classed as deliberate. You carelessly fail to pay your Tax and see what happens, I know more than one person who have had fines and bailiffs at their door. But in politics all you get is 'ok its a mistake you just pay X back and no fine'.
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Rayner cleared by HMRC on 08:20 - May 14 with 2117 views
I reckon she's known for a little while but has chosen to reveal it just as it looks like Streeting will throw his hat in the ring.
I don't think she really wants to be leader, and would prefer Burnham.
But this may be enough to cause Streeting to back off because there is no way he would win if she throws her hat in the ring. This would allow time for Burnham to get a seat.
Indeed, were it to be a three-way fight between Starmer, Streeting and Rayner, I think it is almost certain Starmer would win because second preference votes count. But this again might open up the field at a later time for Burnham.
Interestingly, I came across this from the Guardian which might end up being the best outcome because it would give Starmer time to prove himself, but allow for a fallback if it didn't work.
"His closest friends say that if the polls still show Labour is floundering on 15% in the polls in May 2028 and Burnham’s term in Greater Manchester is at an end, then an accommodation may be reached that Starmer will stand down.
One cabinet minister supporter of Starmer said: “If you get to the point, closer to the election, where he can’t win the election but somebody else could …. if he reaches a point that he’s clear in his own mind that it can’t be done then he’d make sure there was an orderly transition. But he’s not there yet.”
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Rayner cleared by HMRC on 08:58 - May 14 with 1985 views
I reckon she's known for a little while but has chosen to reveal it just as it looks like Streeting will throw his hat in the ring.
I don't think she really wants to be leader, and would prefer Burnham.
But this may be enough to cause Streeting to back off because there is no way he would win if she throws her hat in the ring. This would allow time for Burnham to get a seat.
Indeed, were it to be a three-way fight between Starmer, Streeting and Rayner, I think it is almost certain Starmer would win because second preference votes count. But this again might open up the field at a later time for Burnham.
Interestingly, I came across this from the Guardian which might end up being the best outcome because it would give Starmer time to prove himself, but allow for a fallback if it didn't work.
"His closest friends say that if the polls still show Labour is floundering on 15% in the polls in May 2028 and Burnham’s term in Greater Manchester is at an end, then an accommodation may be reached that Starmer will stand down.
One cabinet minister supporter of Starmer said: “If you get to the point, closer to the election, where he can’t win the election but somebody else could …. if he reaches a point that he’s clear in his own mind that it can’t be done then he’d make sure there was an orderly transition. But he’s not there yet.”
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What would happen if Starmer survives, when a large part of his cabinet has resigned, does he reinstate them, or pick a new cabinet.
Rayner cleared by HMRC on 08:03 - May 14 by Swansea_Blue
VAR going to look at it?
Already did. She took legal advice that suggested she'd win an appeal against the decision, but elected not to (I guess the legal fees would be pretty high!).
No offence committed.
Not sure I want her as PM, though.
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Rayner cleared by HMRC on 09:38 - May 14 with 1831 views
It's not clear at the moment that a large part (or even any apart from Streeting) are going to resign.
Indeed, there is some suggestion of hostility to Streeting, and that he was rather shunned by colleagues sitting alongside him yesterday.
An informal straw poll among my colleagues suggests that were Matt Handob and Jeremy Rhyming-Slang not miles out in front, he's be a strong contender for the title of 'most unpopular health secretary amongst professionals'.
I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
I reckon she's known for a little while but has chosen to reveal it just as it looks like Streeting will throw his hat in the ring.
I don't think she really wants to be leader, and would prefer Burnham.
But this may be enough to cause Streeting to back off because there is no way he would win if she throws her hat in the ring. This would allow time for Burnham to get a seat.
Indeed, were it to be a three-way fight between Starmer, Streeting and Rayner, I think it is almost certain Starmer would win because second preference votes count. But this again might open up the field at a later time for Burnham.
Interestingly, I came across this from the Guardian which might end up being the best outcome because it would give Starmer time to prove himself, but allow for a fallback if it didn't work.
"His closest friends say that if the polls still show Labour is floundering on 15% in the polls in May 2028 and Burnham’s term in Greater Manchester is at an end, then an accommodation may be reached that Starmer will stand down.
One cabinet minister supporter of Starmer said: “If you get to the point, closer to the election, where he can’t win the election but somebody else could …. if he reaches a point that he’s clear in his own mind that it can’t be done then he’d make sure there was an orderly transition. But he’s not there yet.”
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Starmer is fundamentally a decent man, albeit hardly my fav politician, so that sounds very plausible.
I do think he's doing a good job internationally, so we need him to stay in place for that stability, if nothing else. Re-nationalising the steel industry may give him a bit of a boost now.
It's not clear at the moment that a large part (or even any apart from Streeting) are going to resign.
Indeed, there is some suggestion of hostility to Streeting, and that he was rather shunned by colleagues sitting alongside him yesterday.
I was watching it live and it looked to me that it was more a case of Streeting heading off during Starmer's response to Badenoch, or soon after. The emptying of the chamber as Ed Davey got up to speak was quite sad.
I reckon she's known for a little while but has chosen to reveal it just as it looks like Streeting will throw his hat in the ring.
I don't think she really wants to be leader, and would prefer Burnham.
But this may be enough to cause Streeting to back off because there is no way he would win if she throws her hat in the ring. This would allow time for Burnham to get a seat.
Indeed, were it to be a three-way fight between Starmer, Streeting and Rayner, I think it is almost certain Starmer would win because second preference votes count. But this again might open up the field at a later time for Burnham.
Interestingly, I came across this from the Guardian which might end up being the best outcome because it would give Starmer time to prove himself, but allow for a fallback if it didn't work.
"His closest friends say that if the polls still show Labour is floundering on 15% in the polls in May 2028 and Burnham’s term in Greater Manchester is at an end, then an accommodation may be reached that Starmer will stand down.
One cabinet minister supporter of Starmer said: “If you get to the point, closer to the election, where he can’t win the election but somebody else could …. if he reaches a point that he’s clear in his own mind that it can’t be done then he’d make sure there was an orderly transition. But he’s not there yet.”
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I agree about Rayner. I think she would prefer to pull strings and fashion or influence policies rather than have to take the inevitable hard decisions that might be at odds with her political principles and her position as the darling of the left. Deputy p.m was ideal for her.
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Rayner cleared by HMRC on 10:23 - May 14 with 1568 views
Rayner cleared by HMRC on 08:17 - May 14 by BloomBlue
What a surprise, its all part of the same State/Government system, they were never going to find against her. Same when Nadhim Zahawi didn't pay all his tax, surprise surprise they also found he was 'careless and not deliberate'. On the same level Zack Polanski, fails to pay his Council tax and apparently it was careless and not deliberate.
When it comes to Tax people in power are above the law. If it had been anyone outside of politics it will be classed as deliberate. You carelessly fail to pay your Tax and see what happens, I know more than one person who have had fines and bailiffs at their door. But in politics all you get is 'ok its a mistake you just pay X back and no fine'.
Totally agree - fines for late returns or HMRC errors for us plebs, £40k misplaced for an MP - no problem.
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Rayner cleared by HMRC on 11:18 - May 14 with 1439 views
I reckon she's known for a little while but has chosen to reveal it just as it looks like Streeting will throw his hat in the ring.
I don't think she really wants to be leader, and would prefer Burnham.
But this may be enough to cause Streeting to back off because there is no way he would win if she throws her hat in the ring. This would allow time for Burnham to get a seat.
Indeed, were it to be a three-way fight between Starmer, Streeting and Rayner, I think it is almost certain Starmer would win because second preference votes count. But this again might open up the field at a later time for Burnham.
Interestingly, I came across this from the Guardian which might end up being the best outcome because it would give Starmer time to prove himself, but allow for a fallback if it didn't work.
"His closest friends say that if the polls still show Labour is floundering on 15% in the polls in May 2028 and Burnham’s term in Greater Manchester is at an end, then an accommodation may be reached that Starmer will stand down.
One cabinet minister supporter of Starmer said: “If you get to the point, closer to the election, where he can’t win the election but somebody else could …. if he reaches a point that he’s clear in his own mind that it can’t be done then he’d make sure there was an orderly transition. But he’s not there yet.”
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"Kevin Schofield, political editor at HuffPost UK, says a Wes Streeting leadership challenge is now looking more unlikely.
'Looking increasingly unlikely that Wes Streeting will challenge Keir Starmer today.
Some in his team are not convinced he has the 81 supporters locked in to formally launch a contest.
Suspicion that Angela Rayner’s announcement this morning that she’s been cleared by HMRC is also making Streeting think twice.'"
On the other hand.
"Wes Streeting’s allies have been briefing journalists. This is from Alex Wickham at Bloomberg, but other lobby correspondents are being given the same message.
'Supporters of Wes Streeting claim he has the numbers BUT they say “things are shifting”
They claim MPs who signed the loyalty letter told the PM last night he has to go
They claim cabinet ministers are going in to Downing Street today tell Starmer to go
They claim Darren Jones is telling MPs the PM is going to go.,"
I am not sure I believe the latter but if Streeting doesn't put in a leadership bid, Starmer will surely have to sack him.
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Rayner cleared by HMRC on 11:51 - May 14 with 1184 views
"Kevin Schofield, political editor at HuffPost UK, says a Wes Streeting leadership challenge is now looking more unlikely.
'Looking increasingly unlikely that Wes Streeting will challenge Keir Starmer today.
Some in his team are not convinced he has the 81 supporters locked in to formally launch a contest.
Suspicion that Angela Rayner’s announcement this morning that she’s been cleared by HMRC is also making Streeting think twice.'"
On the other hand.
"Wes Streeting’s allies have been briefing journalists. This is from Alex Wickham at Bloomberg, but other lobby correspondents are being given the same message.
'Supporters of Wes Streeting claim he has the numbers BUT they say “things are shifting”
They claim MPs who signed the loyalty letter told the PM last night he has to go
They claim cabinet ministers are going in to Downing Street today tell Starmer to go
They claim Darren Jones is telling MPs the PM is going to go.,"
I am not sure I believe the latter but if Streeting doesn't put in a leadership bid, Starmer will surely have to sack him.
That Streeting is doing this shows a lack of self-awareness and a lack of putting the party or country first. He has no chance of taking Labour forward and making 2029 a meaningful contest. He will be less popular than Starmer. That the only people who rate him are disillusioned Tory voters speaks volumes. He can't honestly think he's got what it takes to steer Labour in a direction that can win hearts and minds, it smacks of rank self-interest and ambition over doing the right thing. There's no point in getting rid of Starmer to replace him with another centre right automaton.
"Kevin Schofield, political editor at HuffPost UK, says a Wes Streeting leadership challenge is now looking more unlikely.
'Looking increasingly unlikely that Wes Streeting will challenge Keir Starmer today.
Some in his team are not convinced he has the 81 supporters locked in to formally launch a contest.
Suspicion that Angela Rayner’s announcement this morning that she’s been cleared by HMRC is also making Streeting think twice.'"
On the other hand.
"Wes Streeting’s allies have been briefing journalists. This is from Alex Wickham at Bloomberg, but other lobby correspondents are being given the same message.
'Supporters of Wes Streeting claim he has the numbers BUT they say “things are shifting”
They claim MPs who signed the loyalty letter told the PM last night he has to go
They claim cabinet ministers are going in to Downing Street today tell Starmer to go
They claim Darren Jones is telling MPs the PM is going to go.,"
I am not sure I believe the latter but if Streeting doesn't put in a leadership bid, Starmer will surely have to sack him.
If Streeting has the cojones to be PM he needs to act now, whether he wins or not is a moot point but ultimately he needs to grab the bull by the horns and make something happen if this is what he thinks is the right thing to do; or this moment will pass and he'll regret it forever
Rayner cleared by HMRC on 12:14 - May 14 by itfcjoe
If Streeting has the cojones to be PM he needs to act now, whether he wins or not is a moot point but ultimately he needs to grab the bull by the horns and make something happen if this is what he thinks is the right thing to do; or this moment will pass and he'll regret it forever
'Wes Streeting has resigned as health secretary published at 13:01 13:01 Breaking Wes Streeting has resigned from Keir Starmer's government.
In a letter shared on X he says he has "lost confidence" in Starmer's leadership and it would be "dishonourable and unprincipled" to remain in government.'
Rayner cleared by HMRC on 08:17 - May 14 by BloomBlue
What a surprise, its all part of the same State/Government system, they were never going to find against her. Same when Nadhim Zahawi didn't pay all his tax, surprise surprise they also found he was 'careless and not deliberate'. On the same level Zack Polanski, fails to pay his Council tax and apparently it was careless and not deliberate.
When it comes to Tax people in power are above the law. If it had been anyone outside of politics it will be classed as deliberate. You carelessly fail to pay your Tax and see what happens, I know more than one person who have had fines and bailiffs at their door. But in politics all you get is 'ok its a mistake you just pay X back and no fine'.
I think comparing Zahawi who actively fiddled quite literally MILLIONS of pounds from HMRC, to Rayner who was looking to pass a property on to her disabled son via a trust to help secure his future, is somewhat disingenuous.
What Zahawi did was illegal, what Rayner did is questionable but totally legal and an exercise that many do in many different situations.
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Rayner cleared by HMRC on 08:32 - May 16 with 681 views
Rayner cleared by HMRC on 08:45 - May 16 by wischip
Well she got the ‘one rule for them, one rule for us’ bit right. She’s clearly in the one rule for them club now. These politicians are all on the gravy train and all the same.
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Rayner cleared by HMRC on 09:59 - May 16 with 538 views
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