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MP resigning so Burnham can stand 17:21 - May 14 with 11464 viewsNthQldITFC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/liv

Labour MP says he's resigning so Andy Burnham can stand

Labour MP Josh Simons has just issued a statement: "Today, I am putting the people I represent and the country I love first and will be resigning as MP for Makerfield.

I am standing aside so that Andy Burnham can return to his home."

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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 18:59 - May 14 with 1181 viewsBlueBadger

MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 17:51 - May 14 by BloomBlue

So... Streeting becomes PM for 3 - 4 months and then Burnham becomes PM?

Labour shooting self in foot.


Streeting isn't going to be PM.


I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:15 - May 14 with 1125 viewsgtsb1966

Im a union member. Do I get a vote?
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:22 - May 14 with 1100 viewsbluelagos

MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:15 - May 14 by gtsb1966

Im a union member. Do I get a vote?


Looks like it. Says the article was updated a week ago - so presume the procedures still apply.

https://www.instituteforgovern

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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:23 - May 14 with 1094 viewsgtsb1966

MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:22 - May 14 by bluelagos

Looks like it. Says the article was updated a week ago - so presume the procedures still apply.

https://www.instituteforgovern


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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:30 - May 14 with 1077 viewsPerublue

MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 17:36 - May 14 by DJR

Josh Simons is a Labour Together man and thus aligned with Wes Streeting.

In the local elections in the area, Reform won 24 out of 25 seats.

Maybe Simons is offering Burnham a poisoned chalice for a reason.

If not, his letter suggests a Damascene conversion.
[Post edited 14 May 17:39]


Absolutely… I’m going to QI myself … this is all very Shakespearean

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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:34 - May 14 with 1055 viewsDJR

MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:23 - May 14 by gtsb1966

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As you will see from the article your union has to be affiliated to the Labour party and you have to opt in.
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I wouldn't risk more than.... on 19:37 - May 14 with 1035 viewsDJR

I wouldn't risk more than.... on 17:48 - May 14 by BanksterDebtSlave

I think they probably should stand aside as a gesture of anti Reform unity and in the national interest.....but will they?


I am a member of Compass which supports co-operation and pacts between Labour, the Greens and the Lib Dem. Indeed, I was involved in a local election where the Greens stood aside for our Labour candidate. And Burnham is supportive of Compass and of PR.

https://www.compassonline.org.

I would expect the Greens to step aside. I am less sure about the Lib Dems.
[Post edited 14 May 19:44]
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:39 - May 14 with 1025 viewsPerublue

IF the NEC block him from standing it really would be an extinction level event for labour who are always shackled by their different and many factions.
On the odd occasion of fake togetherness and following a long Tory rule is generally the only time they’re electable.
I’d be amazed to see the Labour Party as it is ever getting back in again after this government… oddly I’ve always felt the tories would survive pretty much how they are given a few changes.

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I wouldn't risk more than.... on 19:40 - May 14 with 1010 viewsbluelagos

I wouldn't risk more than.... on 19:37 - May 14 by DJR

I am a member of Compass which supports co-operation and pacts between Labour, the Greens and the Lib Dem. Indeed, I was involved in a local election where the Greens stood aside for our Labour candidate. And Burnham is supportive of Compass and of PR.

https://www.compassonline.org.

I would expect the Greens to step aside. I am less sure about the Lib Dems.
[Post edited 14 May 19:44]


For me they might opt not to campaign much, but they'll put up a candidate.

Same for the Lib Dems.

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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:42 - May 14 with 1002 viewsgtsb1966

MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:34 - May 14 by DJR

As you will see from the article your union has to be affiliated to the Labour party and you have to opt in.


Just read it is. Im in the GMB union.
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:43 - May 14 with 981 viewsbluelagos

MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:42 - May 14 by gtsb1966

Just read it is. Im in the GMB union.


You're a borderline commie GTSB :-)

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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:47 - May 14 with 961 viewsDJR

MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:39 - May 14 by Perublue

IF the NEC block him from standing it really would be an extinction level event for labour who are always shackled by their different and many factions.
On the odd occasion of fake togetherness and following a long Tory rule is generally the only time they’re electable.
I’d be amazed to see the Labour Party as it is ever getting back in again after this government… oddly I’ve always felt the tories would survive pretty much how they are given a few changes.


Douglas Alexander, the Secretary of State for Scotland, has just said on Sky that Burnham won't be blocked.
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:47 - May 14 with 955 viewsgtsb1966

MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:43 - May 14 by bluelagos

You're a borderline commie GTSB :-)


Ive always been in a union. You just never know when you will need them. Thankfully I haven't needed them in 40 years but you can guarantee the day i left something would go wrong.
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:51 - May 14 with 936 viewsDJR

MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:47 - May 14 by gtsb1966

Ive always been in a union. You just never know when you will need them. Thankfully I haven't needed them in 40 years but you can guarantee the day i left something would go wrong.


It's even worth being a retired member of a union.

Whilst I did it for solidarity, I've managed to be kept fully up to date with all the shenanigans surrounding the delays in my wife receiving her civil service pension.
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:53 - May 14 with 922 viewsbluelagos

MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:47 - May 14 by gtsb1966

Ive always been in a union. You just never know when you will need them. Thankfully I haven't needed them in 40 years but you can guarantee the day i left something would go wrong.


That's how it starts - join a union and soon you'll be joining the tooting popular front mate.

(Fair dos - think anyone who chooses not to join a union is a bit silly - if only for the reason you give)

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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 22:46 - May 14 with 851 viewsPlums

MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:53 - May 14 by bluelagos

That's how it starts - join a union and soon you'll be joining the tooting popular front mate.

(Fair dos - think anyone who chooses not to join a union is a bit silly - if only for the reason you give)


I've never joined a union despite admiring their origins, I've never looked or listened to a modern union leader and thought they could speak for me better than I can. They also seem to pick the wrong fights more often than not i.e. those that won't gain public support and are introspective.

As an example, my wife was a teacher for many years, buried under horrendous workloads and compliance pressure and yet the unions were banging on about pensions and pay in a recession.

Great in principle, poor in practice - unless as you say you need them for what is quasi-legal help.

It's 106 miles to Portman Road, we've got a full tank of gas, half a round of Port Salut, it's dark... and we're wearing blue tinted sunglasses.
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 06:22 - May 15 with 734 viewsgtsb1966

MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 22:46 - May 14 by Plums

I've never joined a union despite admiring their origins, I've never looked or listened to a modern union leader and thought they could speak for me better than I can. They also seem to pick the wrong fights more often than not i.e. those that won't gain public support and are introspective.

As an example, my wife was a teacher for many years, buried under horrendous workloads and compliance pressure and yet the unions were banging on about pensions and pay in a recession.

Great in principle, poor in practice - unless as you say you need them for what is quasi-legal help.


Ive worked for 4 companies in my 44 years of working. One company recognised the union and we had good pay and working conditions and other benefits. They were a brilliant company and I was there 31 years. On the other hand I've also seen what a company can be like who dont recognise a union. The other three all dont and two of those would push their legal requirements to the limit including health and safety. For instance one company would only use a 3.5ton van so they didn't have to have drivers on a tachometer even though they really needed at least a 7.5ton vehicle. One day i was definitely carrying too much and my route for that day was Sudbury-Oxford-Poole-Penzance and then back to Bristol for an overnight stop before heading back to Sudbury in the morning. Suffice to say I only did that once. All that for minimum wage too!!.
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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 06:26 - May 15 with 728 viewsBenters

MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 06:22 - May 15 by gtsb1966

Ive worked for 4 companies in my 44 years of working. One company recognised the union and we had good pay and working conditions and other benefits. They were a brilliant company and I was there 31 years. On the other hand I've also seen what a company can be like who dont recognise a union. The other three all dont and two of those would push their legal requirements to the limit including health and safety. For instance one company would only use a 3.5ton van so they didn't have to have drivers on a tachometer even though they really needed at least a 7.5ton vehicle. One day i was definitely carrying too much and my route for that day was Sudbury-Oxford-Poole-Penzance and then back to Bristol for an overnight stop before heading back to Sudbury in the morning. Suffice to say I only did that once. All that for minimum wage too!!.


How much weight do you think you had in the van?

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I wouldn't risk more than.... on 06:40 - May 15 with 691 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

I wouldn't risk more than.... on 19:37 - May 14 by DJR

I am a member of Compass which supports co-operation and pacts between Labour, the Greens and the Lib Dem. Indeed, I was involved in a local election where the Greens stood aside for our Labour candidate. And Burnham is supportive of Compass and of PR.

https://www.compassonline.org.

I would expect the Greens to step aside. I am less sure about the Lib Dems.
[Post edited 14 May 19:44]


I’ll be stunned if they do, a key part of their recent surge is down to attracting disillusioned Labour voters and they need to be able to continue to do so if they want to kick on further

Given Burnham is probably the one realistic leader that could get Labour back on track and bring those voters back, it would be suicidal for the Greens to completely open the door and stand down

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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 06:43 - May 15 with 681 viewsgtsb1966

MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 06:26 - May 15 by Benters

How much weight do you think you had in the van?


When I got back to Bristol I looked at my delivery sheet and I was 220kg overweight. In hindsight I shouldn't have even taken the van out. I quit the next day
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I wouldn't risk more than.... on 07:16 - May 15 with 639 viewsDubtractor

I wouldn't risk more than.... on 06:40 - May 15 by C_HealyIsAPleasure

I’ll be stunned if they do, a key part of their recent surge is down to attracting disillusioned Labour voters and they need to be able to continue to do so if they want to kick on further

Given Burnham is probably the one realistic leader that could get Labour back on track and bring those voters back, it would be suicidal for the Greens to completely open the door and stand down


Sort of agree, but this post from Zackers suggests he does want Labour to have the 'right' kind of leader.

The next Labour leader must move decisively away from the status quo to beat Reform. That means giving power and wealth to working class people. It means a democratic revolution, rent controls and public ownership of water. It means someone who isn't Wes Streeting.

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I wouldn't risk more than.... on 07:30 - May 15 with 616 viewsNthQldITFC

I wouldn't risk more than.... on 07:16 - May 15 by Dubtractor

Sort of agree, but this post from Zackers suggests he does want Labour to have the 'right' kind of leader.

The next Labour leader must move decisively away from the status quo to beat Reform. That means giving power and wealth to working class people. It means a democratic revolution, rent controls and public ownership of water. It means someone who isn't Wes Streeting.

— Zack Polanski (@zackpolanski.bsky.social) 2026-05-13T20:03:36.866Z


If anything shows the difference between Zack Polanski and the likes of, well you know who, it's this sort of thing. Here's a man who puts what's best for this country above what's best for himself or his crew.

What's best for you and me and all of the ordinary people who don't receive lovely £5m 'gifts' or corporate backhanders for facilitating theft from the public purse, that is.

Now how can you smear that...

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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 07:32 - May 15 with 618 viewsNewcyBlue

MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 19:15 - May 14 by gtsb1966

Im a union member. Do I get a vote?


I think it’s just for an affiliated union, of which there are 11.

Nautilus, a union for seafarers are not on the list. They’re the only union my company have a crew bargaining agreement with, so I’m stuck paying £30 a month for a union that represented our South African Officers and accepted fire and rehire on much worse conditions.

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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 22:46 - May 14 by Plums

I've never joined a union despite admiring their origins, I've never looked or listened to a modern union leader and thought they could speak for me better than I can. They also seem to pick the wrong fights more often than not i.e. those that won't gain public support and are introspective.

As an example, my wife was a teacher for many years, buried under horrendous workloads and compliance pressure and yet the unions were banging on about pensions and pay in a recession.

Great in principle, poor in practice - unless as you say you need them for what is quasi-legal help.


"I've never... thought they could speak for me better than I can."

Good luck taking on a major corporation on your own!

You also seem to have had one bad experience of a union and have tarred them all with the same brush.

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MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 07:46 - May 15 with 533 viewsDJR

MP resigning so Burnham can stand on 22:46 - May 14 by Plums

I've never joined a union despite admiring their origins, I've never looked or listened to a modern union leader and thought they could speak for me better than I can. They also seem to pick the wrong fights more often than not i.e. those that won't gain public support and are introspective.

As an example, my wife was a teacher for many years, buried under horrendous workloads and compliance pressure and yet the unions were banging on about pensions and pay in a recession.

Great in principle, poor in practice - unless as you say you need them for what is quasi-legal help.


If you look at the front page of the NEU website, teacher workload is front and centre stage.

https://neu.org.uk/

Of course unions can't work miracles, and with schools having to cut the number of teaching assistants when incidents of bad behaviour and pupils with SEND are on the rise, the burden on teachers becomes ever more difficult.
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