| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs 15:35 - May 15 with 7390 views | itfcjoe |
https://www.mfc.co.uk/news/202
"In these circumstances, the only appropriate response is a sporting sanction which would prevent Southampton FC from participating in the EFL Championship play-off final." |  |
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| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 15:38 - May 15 with 4422 views | Vic |
Good and I hope they are successful. |  |
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| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 15:40 - May 15 with 4384 views | GlasgowBlue |
I read a rumour that Southampton were going to get a six point deduction, suspended until the are back in the Championship and a £4.5 million fine. None of which benefit Boro in the slightest. |  |
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| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 15:43 - May 15 with 4352 views | RonFearonsHair |
From a personal perspective I'm so relieved we made it over the line and aren't a part of this circus. |  | | |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 15:43 - May 15 with 4340 views | Zx1988 |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 15:40 - May 15 by GlasgowBlue |
I read a rumour that Southampton were going to get a six point deduction, suspended until the are back in the Championship and a £4.5 million fine. None of which benefit Boro in the slightest. |
I wonder if Boro going public here suggests that they may have heard similar with regards to a 'non-helpful' punishment being lined up for Soton?
It's pretty poor from the EFL that Middlesbrough have been barred from being part of the process here. [Post edited 15 May 15:44]
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| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 15:46 - May 15 with 4309 views | Ryorry |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 15:40 - May 15 by GlasgowBlue |
I read a rumour that Southampton were going to get a six point deduction, suspended until the are back in the Championship and a £4.5 million fine. None of which benefit Boro in the slightest. |
"suspended until the are back in the Championship" ...
Thar'd be bloody ridiculous - if they're allowed to play in the final & beat Hull. there's a possibility they'd *never* be back in the 2nd tier. so would never be punished - indeed, would make an approc £195.5m profit from cheating.  |  |
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| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 15:51 - May 15 with 4206 views | BseaBlue |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 15:46 - May 15 by Ryorry |
"suspended until the are back in the Championship" ...
Thar'd be bloody ridiculous - if they're allowed to play in the final & beat Hull. there's a possibility they'd *never* be back in the 2nd tier. so would never be punished - indeed, would make an approc £195.5m profit from cheating. |
Doesn't exactly deter people from cheating does it? As the poster above says, why they would exclude Boro from the process when they have evidence etc is seriously questionable. |  | | |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 15:54 - May 15 with 4135 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 15:46 - May 15 by Ryorry |
"suspended until the are back in the Championship" ...
Thar'd be bloody ridiculous - if they're allowed to play in the final & beat Hull. there's a possibility they'd *never* be back in the 2nd tier. so would never be punished - indeed, would make an approc £195.5m profit from cheating. |
Did you watch them last season in the Premier League? | |
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| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 15:57 - May 15 with 4090 views | Ryorry |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 15:54 - May 15 by GlasgowBlue |
Did you watch them last season in the Premier League? |
That was then, this is now. There aren't any guarantees is the point.
"Justice delayed (or put on the backboiler forever) is justice denied". | |
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| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:00 - May 15 with 4026 views | bartyg |
Reads to me like they've heard that won't be happening and are trying to get it back into the court of public opinion. |  |
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| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:00 - May 15 with 4020 views | soupytwist |
I think that they're right to do that. EFL don't exactly seem to be proceeding towards a decision very quickly and this should give them the kick up the backside they seem to need to sort it out. |  | | |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:01 - May 15 with 3990 views | StokieBlue |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:00 - May 15 by bartyg |
Reads to me like they've heard that won't be happening and are trying to get it back into the court of public opinion. |
Seems like a very sensible thing to do.
EFL won't do much unless they are really pushed, small fine, small points deduction if and when Saints are back in the EFL.
If they manage to stay up next year then that cheating will have benefitted them to the tune of 400m+ with parachute payments.
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| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:04 - May 15 with 3959 views | GeoffSentence |
if both clubs end up in the championship next season there will be some needle in their fixtures next season. |  |
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| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:06 - May 15 with 3914 views | jas0999 |
No way Southampton should be allowed to compete. They broke the rules. | | | |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:10 - May 15 with 3875 views | _CliveBaker_ |
I hope Saints are booted out but I can't see it happening.
I'd love Hull to win the final, whoever they play. |  | | |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:11 - May 15 with 3839 views | algy |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 15:54 - May 15 by GlasgowBlue |
Did you watch them last season in the Premier League? |
I did when they played us at Portman Road. They beat us. Wasn't much of an achievement, thirteen other teams did the same. | | | |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:22 - May 15 with 3735 views | itfc1108 |
I know it's easy to say and to write off £200 million of somebody else's money, but if I were the Southampton owner, I would concede the semi final to Middlesbrough.
I would sack the manager, or whoever is responsible, apologise sincerely to my players and fans, and try again next year.
It's the only way to come out with any credit from the situation.
There will be terrible hatred towards them now, whichever league they are in, and the players will be on the receiving end of most of it, from the terraces.
No fine or points deduction will be enough for anybody.
This way, might mean they can move on from it in time. | | | |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:24 - May 15 with 3668 views | StokieBlue |
The Saints forum is quite something.
They seem to think Boro are totally overreacting, their statement is a disgrace and their fans are children.
Not sure they have read the room on this one.
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| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:25 - May 15 with 3653 views | GeoffSentence |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:22 - May 15 by itfc1108 |
I know it's easy to say and to write off £200 million of somebody else's money, but if I were the Southampton owner, I would concede the semi final to Middlesbrough.
I would sack the manager, or whoever is responsible, apologise sincerely to my players and fans, and try again next year.
It's the only way to come out with any credit from the situation.
There will be terrible hatred towards them now, whichever league they are in, and the players will be on the receiving end of most of it, from the terraces.
No fine or points deduction will be enough for anybody.
This way, might mean they can move on from it in time. |
Aside from 'Boro, the rest of the league will forget it pretty quickly. It will soon just be nothing more than a vehicle for niggles between fans.
Not a chance that Southampton, or any other club, would voluntarily walk away from those sort of riches. | |
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| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:25 - May 15 with 3644 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:24 - May 15 by StokieBlue |
The Saints forum is quite something.
They seem to think Boro are totally overreacting, their statement is a disgrace and their fans are children.
Not sure they have read the room on this one.
SB |
To be fair I heard one on the radio saying if guilty they should be withdrawn from the playoffs. He might be in the minority though. | | | |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:30 - May 15 with 3557 views | You_Bloo_Right |
Tickets allocated to clubs.
Doesn't that suggest that one of the previously touted penalties the Independent tribunal could have applied (excluding Southampton from the final) has been ruled out? |  |
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| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:33 - May 15 with 3485 views | StokieBlue |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:30 - May 15 by You_Bloo_Right |
Tickets allocated to clubs.
Doesn't that suggest that one of the previously touted penalties the Independent tribunal could have applied (excluding Southampton from the final) has been ruled out? |
It would seem so. Doubt they are going to sell tickets then refund them.
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| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:39 - May 15 with 3417 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:24 - May 15 by StokieBlue |
The Saints forum is quite something.
They seem to think Boro are totally overreacting, their statement is a disgrace and their fans are children.
Not sure they have read the room on this one.
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The same Saints fans who turned up at both St Mary's and The Riverside wearing camouflage gear and wearing binoculars?
The same Saints who's captain made a binocular gesture to Boro players after winning the 2nd leg?
Those Saints? Putting that on their forum? Well, colour me shocked. |  |
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| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:42 - May 15 with 3399 views | Ftnfwest |
If that happens then it should just be awarded to Hull, so no final. All this was in the public domain before the first leg so if this statement is Boro's stance then they shouldn't have given the semi legitimacy by playing it at all. They're now trying to have two attempts at getting to the final but i think they've passed over that chance. Frankly should have won the first game comfortably anyway. |  | | |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:58 - May 15 with 3209 views | Illinoisblue |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:06 - May 15 by jas0999 |
No way Southampton should be allowed to compete. They broke the rules. |
They did very clearly break the rules. This situation is entirely their own doing. But... it appears there are no established punishments in place for when the rules are broken. Even more bizarre is the EFL rule that you can "spy" on other teams so long as it's 72 hours before a game. Just ban it altogether. |  |
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| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 17:00 - May 15 with 3198 views | Illinoisblue |
| Middlesbrough formally request that Southampton are removed from the POs on 16:42 - May 15 by Ftnfwest |
If that happens then it should just be awarded to Hull, so no final. All this was in the public domain before the first leg so if this statement is Boro's stance then they shouldn't have given the semi legitimacy by playing it at all. They're now trying to have two attempts at getting to the final but i think they've passed over that chance. Frankly should have won the first game comfortably anyway. |
Hull and their fans are the real victims here. Unable to properly prep for a massive game, and fans unsure if they can or should make hotel/travel arrangements. | |
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