| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? 18:06 - Jul 7 with 5427 views | redrickstuhaart |
The song was about Euro 96 being held in the UK. First major tournament since 66. It was never about the trophy coming home. Because England is not the trophy's home and never has been.
Will people please stop saying "is it coming home" etc. It makes no sense, and sounds stupidly arrogant to foreigners.
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| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 20:31 - Jul 7 with 1090 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
I don't think Madonna was "like a virgin touched for the very first time" either. |  |
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| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 20:33 - Jul 7 with 1095 views | Trequartista |
it's not meant to be taken literally. |  |
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| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 20:33 - Jul 7 with 1092 views | Wolfshead |
Interesting thread - i agree with your first sentence 100% and i disagree with your second sentence 100%...
Yes - it was for '96 and about football coming back to England
However - It makes 100% sense - it's a catchy football song and evokes memories. It's like singing World In Motion or Nessun Dorma.
People just need to accept it - if they see it as arrogant then that's their issue to deal with. | |
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| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 20:37 - Jul 7 with 1071 views | LuciBlue |
I always read it as football/the trophy is coming home with us, rather than it's coming back to it's place of origin. |  |
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| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 20:56 - Jul 7 with 1035 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 20:31 - Jul 7 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I don't think Madonna was "like a virgin touched for the very first time" either. |
I wasn’t that experienced back then, but she fooled me. |  |
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| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 21:01 - Jul 7 with 1018 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 20:33 - Jul 7 by Wolfshead |
Interesting thread - i agree with your first sentence 100% and i disagree with your second sentence 100%...
Yes - it was for '96 and about football coming back to England
However - It makes 100% sense - it's a catchy football song and evokes memories. It's like singing World In Motion or Nessun Dorma.
People just need to accept it - if they see it as arrogant then that's their issue to deal with. |
Nothing I said disagrees with what you said... | |
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| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 21:01 - Jul 7 with 1016 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 20:37 - Jul 7 by LuciBlue |
I always read it as football/the trophy is coming home with us, rather than it's coming back to it's place of origin. |
Thats the point. Thank you for demonstrating it! It isn't! [Post edited 7 Jul 21:02]
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| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 21:10 - Jul 7 with 991 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 18:59 - Jul 7 by redrickstuhaart |
That's precisely what I said...
Its constantly used in the other context though. Its coming home = we are winning and bringing the trophy back. And most people younger than about 45 seem to think thats the meaning. |
There really are worse things to be worrying about. |  |
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| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 21:12 - Jul 7 with 986 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 21:10 - Jul 7 by GlasgowBlue |
There really are worse things to be worrying about. |
Hi, you must be new around here. Favourite cheese? Pablo or Shefki? | |
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| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 21:20 - Jul 7 with 971 views | NBVJohn |
It’s become the go to phrase for absolute Cockwombles to loudly shout if they’re approached by a journalist with a microphone outside a fanzone of some description…..
It drives me mad. | | | |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 21:30 - Jul 7 with 943 views | Blue_Moses |
I think (like a lot of foreigners) you've misunderstood the song. It's about the eternal hope and optimism of England fans. The song actually talks about how crap we are most of the time. | | | |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 21:41 - Jul 7 with 931 views | Coastalblue |
It's coming home |  |
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| Football's coming home! (n/t) on 21:42 - Jul 7 with 925 views | Bloots |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 21:41 - Jul 7 by Coastalblue |
It's coming home |
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| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 21:52 - Jul 7 with 882 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 21:30 - Jul 7 by Blue_Moses |
I think (like a lot of foreigners) you've misunderstood the song. It's about the eternal hope and optimism of England fans. The song actually talks about how crap we are most of the time. |
Again- precisely my point.
The complaint is about the muppets thinking "its coming home" means the trophy is rightfully ours and we will win it... | |
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| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 22:12 - Jul 7 with 828 views | J2BLUE |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 21:52 - Jul 7 by redrickstuhaart |
Again- precisely my point.
The complaint is about the muppets thinking "its coming home" means the trophy is rightfully ours and we will win it... |
It's coming home bruh.
The world cup is coming home. |  | | |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 22:13 - Jul 7 with 822 views | AG26 |
Who gives a b0ll0cks what 'foreigners' think? Why should we care how fans of other teams view us? | | | |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 22:20 - Jul 7 with 801 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 21:52 - Jul 7 by redrickstuhaart |
Again- precisely my point.
The complaint is about the muppets thinking "its coming home" means the trophy is rightfully ours and we will win it... |
Evidence? | |
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| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 22:30 - Jul 7 with 765 views | Jon_456 |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 21:52 - Jul 7 by redrickstuhaart |
Again- precisely my point.
The complaint is about the muppets thinking "its coming home" means the trophy is rightfully ours and we will win it... |
But it is and we will? | | | |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 22:47 - Jul 7 with 729 views | hoppy |
Chorus:
Three lions on a shirt, Jules Rimet still gleaming,
Thirty years of hurt, but never stopped me dreaming.
[Bridge]
England have done it in the last minute of extra time! What a save, Gordon Banks! Good old England, England that couldn’t play football! England have got it in the bag! I know it was then but it could happen again.
Jules Rimet gleaming is a reference to the trophy… 30 years had passed with no more success in winning, had never stopped the dreaming. The reality was that Euro 96 was hosted in England, so why would there need to be any dreaming about that? Dreaming is most likely about the winning of the trophy.
Likewise, in the bridge, “England have done it in the last minute” and have “got it in the bag” are clearly referring to winning it, rather than hosting it.. as is “but it could happen again” - there was no ‘could’ about hosting it… the dream was of could win it’ - which would also suggest it’s about the trophy.
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| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 22:50 - Jul 7 with 727 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
The song is about both, literally the tournament, metaphorically the trophy.
If you take the line on its own, you miss a lot of context. If uou consider the rest of the song, "all those oh so bears" "England's going to throw it away" it's about winning the thing and therefore the trophy.
You are wrong, and the law of the internet you must be cancelled by your own cancellation.
Ultimately that trophy is football, football is the trophy and it is comming, close to, home as I suspect it ends up in Paris once again |  |
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| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 22:54 - Jul 7 with 706 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 22:50 - Jul 7 by BlueandTruesince82 |
The song is about both, literally the tournament, metaphorically the trophy.
If you take the line on its own, you miss a lot of context. If uou consider the rest of the song, "all those oh so bears" "England's going to throw it away" it's about winning the thing and therefore the trophy.
You are wrong, and the law of the internet you must be cancelled by your own cancellation.
Ultimately that trophy is football, football is the trophy and it is comming, close to, home as I suspect it ends up in Paris once again |
No thats bollox. Its about the game coming home to where it was born.
It was never about the trophy belonging in England. That would be silly. Because it clearly doesn;t given the history clearly set out in a self deprecating way throughout the song. | |
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| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 22:59 - Jul 7 with 680 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 22:54 - Jul 7 by redrickstuhaart |
No thats bollox. Its about the game coming home to where it was born.
It was never about the trophy belonging in England. That would be silly. Because it clearly doesn;t given the history clearly set out in a self deprecating way throughout the song. |
It's not about it belonging to England, literally no one thinks that. Its about it comming home to England, tournament and trophy.
No where in that song does it suggest that either football or the trophy belong to England merley that it was taking place in England and we'd really like to win it (and belive that we will)
Again you are wrong. | |
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| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 00:20 - Jul 8 with 596 views | kikorangi |
Good point.
Also, it's gravity (and maybe other physics stuff) that's got the world in motion, not love.
AND - not everyone in England does like vindaloo.
Absolute minefield, this. | | | |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 02:48 - Jul 8 with 562 views | Kievthegreat |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 19:57 - Jul 7 by redrickstuhaart |
Its irritating.
I hate people being wrong.
Its also embarrassing because it appears so arrogant to our European neighbours.
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It's understandable in a way why many other countries find it arrogant. Many will only ever hear the repeated "it's coming home" refrain on the stands. They miss out on a huge amount of the meaning behind the song. If someone tells you it's an arrogant song, they've never listened to the actual song, just that line from the stands.
The song Three Lions is anything but arrogant. It's massively self-deprecating and about obsessive optimism in the face of reality. We know in all likelihood it's not coming home, we're not going to win, but all those years of hurt have never stopped us dreaming.
There's also the elephant in the room that LOADS of football chants are arrogant. We usually mock it for being cringey, but the Yanks "I believe that we will win" is massively arrogant, surely? Every club says they are the finest football team the world has ever seen, but that's just not possible. Some of those must be arrogant deluded fools?
I don't need to speak Spanish, Portuguese, German, French, etc... to know there will be songs in other languages that are all them winning and being better. Three Lions gets more pelters because it's extremely recognisable, uniquely English (albeit those presumably also arrogant German's like it too) and it's in the global Lingua Franca, so everyone can understand it superficially. |  | | |
| Can we just deal with this "coming home" nonsense once and for all? on 03:18 - Jul 8 with 552 views | TownieRob |
I read the entire thread before commenting as I thought the OP was satire.
Now having read through it. I have realised you are unfortunately serious.
Do yourself a favour, please don't celebrate any further success in the tournament (judging by this and other posts, I doubt you will be anyway..) | | | |
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