| Selling Jaden 13:52 - Jul 9 with 3797 views | BelsteadCav | There’s no doubting the boys talent, but if we could get 30m+ I’d sell him. Especially as Oh Neil likes hard working teams. We can’t have any passengers this season as I think it’s going to be even tougher than last time |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 14:26 - Jul 9 with 821 views | N2_Blue |
| Selling Jaden on 13:59 - Jul 9 by TRUE_BLUE123 | I do question sometimes if people actually watch Ipswich play when they say stuff like this. Why would O'Neil liking hard working teams be a black mark against Jaden Philogene, who is one of our hardest working players and best players off the ball. That is arguably his best attribute. If you have concerns about his size or how he will measure up against elite full backs that's a different conversation but hard work is not an issue. |
100% this. The stupid assumption by people that clearly don't actually watch all games but seemingly feel quailified to make comment on performace of our players will know that Jaden is actually one of the hardest working players for us. It doesn't always come off offensivley for us but when it does he is a game changer and that extra something that we will really need next season. Yes, let's sell our better players!!?? If folk think 30 million is going to suddenly deliver us a better player they are much mistaken. We've just shelled out 20+ million on a player we literally have no idea what he will do. It's the game we need to take but i'd rather have Jaden on our books than take a punt. Jayden hasn't had a chance at PL level yet, nothing can be assessed on the pervious PL campaign as he was basically injured. We also need a little bit of continuity...we need to hold on to a few core players and i'd rather the ones we did are the better ones of which Jaden is clearly one. We don't really need to raise funds to improvee the squad. Selling any saleable assest will be a requirement if we are relagated to ensure we're in line with financial fair play but we are able to invest significantly this season without selling our best assets. |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 14:27 - Jul 9 with 805 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Selling Jaden on 14:24 - Jul 9 by BelsteadCav | It’s not half the forum, it’s the same 5/6 people all the time |
Pop him on ignore, best thing I ever did. |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 14:28 - Jul 9 with 798 views | BlueBadger |
| Selling Jaden on 14:22 - Jul 9 by BelsteadCav | I think he’s big enough to look after himself Doesn’t need his lap dogs attacking as well |
Hey, I'm just joining in the jolly bantz on a public forum. |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 14:29 - Jul 9 with 784 views | SE1blue |
| Selling Jaden on 14:22 - Jul 9 by TRUE_BLUE123 | He commented it multiple times. I actually though at times last season the bad games that Jaden had were when he struggled on the ball and couldn't get in to the game or create enough. But even in those games he would give you something off the ball [Post edited 9 Jul 14:22]
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Same feelings. Like Hutchinson, we’d miss him a lot if he goes. |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 14:30 - Jul 9 with 773 views | SheffordBlue |
| Selling Jaden on 14:12 - Jul 9 by BelsteadCav | So the argument on the pitch didn’t happen? Kieran telling Azor we’ll sort it in the changing room didn’t hapoen? |
For me the argument on the pitch seemed to be more about when and where Philogene was trying to win a foul. In that game the ref had a high bar for physical contact and Philogene (and others in the match) didn't adjust well to it - they kept going to ground trying to win fouls that the ref wasn't giving. In other games that tactic worked well where the the ref had a lower bar for physical contact. It didn't seem to be anything to do with his effort levels which I think are consistently high and were fairly regularly remarked on by McKenna. |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 14:31 - Jul 9 with 762 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Selling Jaden on 14:26 - Jul 9 by N2_Blue | 100% this. The stupid assumption by people that clearly don't actually watch all games but seemingly feel quailified to make comment on performace of our players will know that Jaden is actually one of the hardest working players for us. It doesn't always come off offensivley for us but when it does he is a game changer and that extra something that we will really need next season. Yes, let's sell our better players!!?? If folk think 30 million is going to suddenly deliver us a better player they are much mistaken. We've just shelled out 20+ million on a player we literally have no idea what he will do. It's the game we need to take but i'd rather have Jaden on our books than take a punt. Jayden hasn't had a chance at PL level yet, nothing can be assessed on the pervious PL campaign as he was basically injured. We also need a little bit of continuity...we need to hold on to a few core players and i'd rather the ones we did are the better ones of which Jaden is clearly one. We don't really need to raise funds to improvee the squad. Selling any saleable assest will be a requirement if we are relagated to ensure we're in line with financial fair play but we are able to invest significantly this season without selling our best assets. |
I think ultimately if money we deem appropriate comes in and Jaden wants to go, the clubs hand does feel kind of forced. But as you say, we have soooo much to do this summer. The LW Position is the one I would feel most confident just leaving alone and going with Clarke and Jaden. If we can go and get a proper threat for that right hand side as well (if that is the system GO will play) that should also give more space for our left side who were doubled up most of last season. |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 14:32 - Jul 9 with 765 views | BelsteadCav |
| Selling Jaden on 14:27 - Jul 9 by Wallingford_Boy | Pop him on ignore, best thing I ever did. |
How can you reply to me if you’ve got me on ignore 🤣 Oh you mean the twtds mafia lol |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 14:33 - Jul 9 with 751 views | BelsteadCav |
| Selling Jaden on 14:28 - Jul 9 by BlueBadger | Hey, I'm just joining in the jolly bantz on a public forum. |
Using the word “ bantz” makes your comment null and void I’m afraid |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 14:51 - Jul 9 with 699 views | Trequartista | I would more worry that he is quite lightweight for the Premier League, but I've never seen any evidence that he doesn't work hard. I don't think he would have been picked in a McKenna team if he didn't track back. |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 15:12 - Jul 9 with 632 views | jayessess | If Philogene is worth £30m+ I would have thought that would be the kind of player we need in our squad. Not easy for us to acquire lots of players with that kind of value. |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 15:16 - Jul 9 with 619 views | BelsteadCav |
| Selling Jaden on 15:12 - Jul 9 by jayessess | If Philogene is worth £30m+ I would have thought that would be the kind of player we need in our squad. Not easy for us to acquire lots of players with that kind of value. |
Ashton always talks about trading and profit |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 15:26 - Jul 9 with 598 views | N2_Blue |
| Selling Jaden on 14:33 - Jul 9 by BelsteadCav | Using the word “ bantz” makes your comment null and void I’m afraid |
You just talk BS and your commenst regarding Jaden are lazy and show you either don't watch games or don't understand what you're watching. As multiple posters have suggested, Jaden may have deficiencies in his game, but working hard is not one of them. Unfortunately the forum become a worse place when you came back. Suppose you've got a lot more time on your hands now than Cavendish has retired. Aren't there any big cats to go off spotting? |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 15:29 - Jul 9 with 586 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Selling Jaden on 15:26 - Jul 9 by N2_Blue | You just talk BS and your commenst regarding Jaden are lazy and show you either don't watch games or don't understand what you're watching. As multiple posters have suggested, Jaden may have deficiencies in his game, but working hard is not one of them. Unfortunately the forum become a worse place when you came back. Suppose you've got a lot more time on your hands now than Cavendish has retired. Aren't there any big cats to go off spotting? |
What a delightful post! Any need to be quite so personal?! |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 15:33 - Jul 9 with 580 views | RetroBlue | I think Clarke offers much more than Philogene . I dont think we'd miss Philogene if he left ... he only seemed to perform at home anyway, and if defences blocked his cutting in on his Rt leg , he didnt offer much else as a threat in my humble opinion. Much better out there I think. |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 15:49 - Jul 9 with 554 views | FrimleyBlue | I think hes one of the hardest working forwards actually. When you compare him to egeli for example its night and day between tracking back and getting stuck in. Clarkes a funny one too. Some games hes relentless whilst others he stands watching the ball. The reason i feel wed be happy to sell is simply if we have no requirement for his inverted role. |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 15:55 - Jul 9 with 531 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Selling Jaden on 15:16 - Jul 9 by BelsteadCav | Ashton always talks about trading and profit |
Thats fine, but I dont think you build a club by selling your best players for what would be a marginal profit at that level. Toulouse selling us a player at £25m when they bought him 10 months ago for £3m is how proper player trading is done. |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 16:01 - Jul 9 with 518 views | Benters |
| Selling Jaden on 14:27 - Jul 9 by Wallingford_Boy | Pop him on ignore, best thing I ever did. |
Who? |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 16:01 - Jul 9 with 521 views | BelsteadCav |
| Selling Jaden on 15:49 - Jul 9 by FrimleyBlue | I think hes one of the hardest working forwards actually. When you compare him to egeli for example its night and day between tracking back and getting stuck in. Clarkes a funny one too. Some games hes relentless whilst others he stands watching the ball. The reason i feel wed be happy to sell is simply if we have no requirement for his inverted role. |
It’s tough when our 2 best attackers play in the same position Interesting about Walle. I hope we see him in the centre |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 16:14 - Jul 9 with 490 views | Illinoisblue | Has selling our best players ever worked for us? |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 16:16 - Jul 9 with 483 views | WolfieAtTheBack | The only reason I would not sell him is that by selling him we need to find a further player of equal and/or better quality. If we announce 10 new players the next couple of weeks and someone offers on him they will take it. |  | |  |
| Selling Jaden on 16:21 - Jul 9 with 452 views | Leaky | So just because he has changed his agent everyone assumes his leaving. I think I'll give the internet a rest for a while. |  | |  |
| Selling Jaden on 16:37 - Jul 9 with 432 views | Wright1 | If you think he "isn't committed", "hasn't bought in" or "doesn't work hard" then there is a very good chance you are carrying some prejudice conscious or unconscious. |  | |  |
| Selling Jaden on 17:07 - Jul 9 with 388 views | BelsteadCav |
| Selling Jaden on 16:14 - Jul 9 by Illinoisblue | Has selling our best players ever worked for us? |
Possibly not lol |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 18:13 - Jul 9 with 347 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Selling Jaden on 16:14 - Jul 9 by Illinoisblue | Has selling our best players ever worked for us? |
Sold dyer got promoted Sold hutchinson got promoted |  |
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| Selling Jaden on 18:55 - Jul 9 with 297 views | J2BLUE |
| Selling Jaden on 14:00 - Jul 9 by BelsteadCav | He was after Matusiwa had a go at him. I’m hoping he can prove me wrong |
McKenna made a point of saying it was just two passionate players working hard for the team who got a bit frustrated. |  | |  |
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