| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... 12:37 - Jul 14 with 2259 views | Ryorry |
Deleted that tweet, author was factually incorrect with his 'evidence'. Inter Miami (Messi's current club) have actually lost 3 & drawn 2 when Elfath was reffing, not won all their games under him as the author had stated. Just to replicate the officials for the game, they are -
https://www.espn.co.uk/footbal [Post edited 14 Jul 12:56]
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| 'Interesting' choice of ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 12:40 - Jul 14 with 1903 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Well,
France v Argentina is the final that FIFA want.
Mbape v Messi; its been pretty obvious.
FK FIFA |  |
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| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 12:54 - Jul 14 with 1749 views | MattinLondon |
Why have England been robbed?
Edit - tweet has been deleted so nothing to see. [Post edited 14 Jul 12:55]
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| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 12:54 - Jul 14 with 1741 views | Guthrum |
We'll just have to nullify any reffing problems by scoring goals and keeping the Argentines out. There's a limit to how much they can interfere with that. |  |
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| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 12:59 - Jul 14 with 1694 views | Ryorry |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 12:54 - Jul 14 by Guthrum |
We'll just have to nullify any reffing problems by scoring goals and keeping the Argentines out. There's a limit to how much they can interfere with that. |
Let's hope the VAR officials are competent and consistent! | |
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| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 13:21 - Jul 14 with 1571 views | smithy91 |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 12:59 - Jul 14 by Ryorry |
Let's hope the VAR officials are competent and consistent! |
Its all so predictable there will be some as yet unused or new made up rule to use VAR to ovverule an on field decision in favour of argentina, sadly...and will this referee remember he can card both teams this time?
I am just hoping we get a couple of first half goals and set ourselves up to counter which would likely make it comfortable for us, limit argentina opportunities and opportunities for VAR to step in as it would be too controversial....although I am not sure what deems as too controversial for FIFA anymore! [Post edited 14 Jul 13:22]
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| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 13:43 - Jul 14 with 1491 views | Devereuxxx |
I think the Messi stuff is a bit of a storm in a teacup, but no referee from the MLS has the experience, calibre, or pedigree to referee a World Cup semi final.
And beyond that the general standard and consistent of refereeing in the tournament has been appalling, mostly because you have referees not at the standard suddenly taking on the biggest game of their lives. |  | | |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 14:02 - Jul 14 with 1413 views | MattinLondon |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 13:43 - Jul 14 by Devereuxxx |
I think the Messi stuff is a bit of a storm in a teacup, but no referee from the MLS has the experience, calibre, or pedigree to referee a World Cup semi final.
And beyond that the general standard and consistent of refereeing in the tournament has been appalling, mostly because you have referees not at the standard suddenly taking on the biggest game of their lives. |
Think your first paragraph is a tad patronising.
Plus the refs, on balance, have been quite good in this WC - there will never be consistency as they are human. | | | |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 15:01 - Jul 14 with 1257 views | baxterbasics |
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| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 15:06 - Jul 14 with 1236 views | RamRob |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 15:01 - Jul 14 by baxterbasics |
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| 'Interesting' choice of ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 15:31 - Jul 14 with 1175 views | RIPbobby |
| 'Interesting' choice of ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 12:40 - Jul 14 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Well,
France v Argentina is the final that FIFA want.
Mbape v Messi; its been pretty obvious.
FK FIFA |
I would think Mr Trump wants England in the final. Surely what he wants wins. |  | | |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 15:58 - Jul 14 with 1133 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 14:02 - Jul 14 by MattinLondon |
Think your first paragraph is a tad patronising.
Plus the refs, on balance, have been quite good in this WC - there will never be consistency as they are human. |
Not patronizing at all. Mls is not a top level competition by a long margin. |  |
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| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 16:02 - Jul 14 with 1120 views | grow_our_own |
Messi and Infantino have already decided the result tomorrow according to this hidden camera footage:
https://www.tiktok.com/@skelet
Similar conversation to the one they had before the Egypt game. | | | |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 16:09 - Jul 14 with 1084 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 13:21 - Jul 14 by smithy91 |
Its all so predictable there will be some as yet unused or new made up rule to use VAR to ovverule an on field decision in favour of argentina, sadly...and will this referee remember he can card both teams this time?
I am just hoping we get a couple of first half goals and set ourselves up to counter which would likely make it comfortable for us, limit argentina opportunities and opportunities for VAR to step in as it would be too controversial....although I am not sure what deems as too controversial for FIFA anymore! [Post edited 14 Jul 13:22]
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I remember Egypt following that game plan and VAR found a way!
(I don't have a problem with the disallowed Egyptian goal, but similar effort wasn't put into finding fouls by Argentina when they scored) | | | |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 16:44 - Jul 14 with 1022 views | WD19 |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 13:43 - Jul 14 by Devereuxxx |
I think the Messi stuff is a bit of a storm in a teacup, but no referee from the MLS has the experience, calibre, or pedigree to referee a World Cup semi final.
And beyond that the general standard and consistent of refereeing in the tournament has been appalling, mostly because you have referees not at the standard suddenly taking on the biggest game of their lives. |
He was really poor in an earlier game I watched. Puffed out his chest and made it all about himself, then started to lose control and became really inconsistent. Wouldn't surprise me at all if there was a few big but entirely random statement decisions from him in the first 20 minutes. He is a worry. |  | | |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 17:08 - Jul 14 with 978 views | Zx1988 |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 14:02 - Jul 14 by MattinLondon |
Think your first paragraph is a tad patronising.
Plus the refs, on balance, have been quite good in this WC - there will never be consistency as they are human. |
I don't see where all this 'lesser league' stuff comes from.
The profile of the league within which they operate should have no bearing on the ability of an elite referee to know and apply the laws of the game.
It's a bit like claiming that Aubameyang could never have been a top-level striker, because he came from Gabon. | |
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| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 17:09 - Jul 14 with 977 views | wischip |
One thing's for certain, that these 2 semis and final are going to be the most analysed football matches ever in respect of refereeing and VAR decisions. We are all going to be looking for any accumulated advantages gained dubiously by 1 team vs another. |  | | |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 07:03 - Jul 15 with 699 views | Devereuxxx |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 14:02 - Jul 14 by MattinLondon |
Think your first paragraph is a tad patronising.
Plus the refs, on balance, have been quite good in this WC - there will never be consistency as they are human. |
The MLS consistently ranks below even the Championship in standard, lacks a degree of jeopardy because of the absence of relegation, and hasn't got a seriously competitive continental club competition.
Referring should be a meritocracy where the best referees get the biggest games. This is more FIFA pandering to the US by giving one of their refs a World Cup semi final despite not having the requisite back catalogue. | | | |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 07:29 - Jul 15 with 648 views | nrb1985 |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 17:08 - Jul 14 by Zx1988 |
I don't see where all this 'lesser league' stuff comes from.
The profile of the league within which they operate should have no bearing on the ability of an elite referee to know and apply the laws of the game.
It's a bit like claiming that Aubameyang could never have been a top-level striker, because he came from Gabon. |
Do you really not understand that the speed of the game tonight is going to be light years beyond what he refs week in week out in a pub league?
He will also have little to no experience in how to monitor the various mischiefs and dark arts those cnts on the other other team will employ nor will he be strong enough to withstand their frequent protestations.
Every time Messi goes down he’ll get a free kick and every single marginal decision will go their way.
Having a MLS ref to ref Messi, who is basically their meal ticket is a farce.
I will eat my hat if I’m wrong. [Post edited 15 Jul 7:30]
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| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 07:34 - Jul 15 with 628 views | MattinLondon |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 07:29 - Jul 15 by nrb1985 |
Do you really not understand that the speed of the game tonight is going to be light years beyond what he refs week in week out in a pub league?
He will also have little to no experience in how to monitor the various mischiefs and dark arts those cnts on the other other team will employ nor will he be strong enough to withstand their frequent protestations.
Every time Messi goes down he’ll get a free kick and every single marginal decision will go their way.
Having a MLS ref to ref Messi, who is basically their meal ticket is a farce.
I will eat my hat if I’m wrong. [Post edited 15 Jul 7:30]
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The ref has a lot of experience
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
English players are and will cheat as much as the Argentinians - Kane goes down a lot.
Your post is bollox. | | | |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 07:41 - Jul 15 with 605 views | nrb1985 |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 07:34 - Jul 15 by MattinLondon |
The ref has a lot of experience
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
English players are and will cheat as much as the Argentinians - Kane goes down a lot.
Your post is bollox. |
England will cheat just as much as the Argentinians…
How long have you been watching football son? New to it are we?
Also, as has been pointed out to you, he has a lot of experience - in a pub league.
I’ve also got loads of experience playing in a pub league - maybe I should play up top for England tonight.
Only bollox been spoken here is yours sadly. | | | |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 07:54 - Jul 15 with 575 views | Zx1988 |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 07:41 - Jul 15 by nrb1985 |
England will cheat just as much as the Argentinians…
How long have you been watching football son? New to it are we?
Also, as has been pointed out to you, he has a lot of experience - in a pub league.
I’ve also got loads of experience playing in a pub league - maybe I should play up top for England tonight.
Only bollox been spoken here is yours sadly. |
You alright mate? You seem to be getting surprisingly aggressive over something as trivial as a referee appointment.
The chap from El Salvador didn't do too bad a job last night, and his league is of a lower standard than MLS. | |
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| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 07:59 - Jul 15 with 550 views | nrb1985 |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 07:54 - Jul 15 by Zx1988 |
You alright mate? You seem to be getting surprisingly aggressive over something as trivial as a referee appointment.
The chap from El Salvador didn't do too bad a job last night, and his league is of a lower standard than MLS. |
No I’m not.
I hate FIFA and my loathing for the Argentine national team isn’t far behind. | | | |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 08:04 - Jul 15 with 542 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 07:29 - Jul 15 by nrb1985 |
Do you really not understand that the speed of the game tonight is going to be light years beyond what he refs week in week out in a pub league?
He will also have little to no experience in how to monitor the various mischiefs and dark arts those cnts on the other other team will employ nor will he be strong enough to withstand their frequent protestations.
Every time Messi goes down he’ll get a free kick and every single marginal decision will go their way.
Having a MLS ref to ref Messi, who is basically their meal ticket is a farce.
I will eat my hat if I’m wrong. [Post edited 15 Jul 7:30]
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Your contempt for the MSL seems to be based in ignorance. The ref for last night’s semi final is from El Salvador. According to the Opta Power Rankings, MLS is frequently ranked as one of the top 15 leagues in the world. The Primera División de El Salvador sits much lower in continental rankings.
Tonight’s ref may turn out to be utter tosh. But that won’t be due to him refereeing in a “pub league”. [Post edited 15 Jul 8:05]
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| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 08:16 - Jul 15 with 502 views | nrb1985 |
| Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 08:04 - Jul 15 by GlasgowBlue |
Your contempt for the MSL seems to be based in ignorance. The ref for last night’s semi final is from El Salvador. According to the Opta Power Rankings, MLS is frequently ranked as one of the top 15 leagues in the world. The Primera División de El Salvador sits much lower in continental rankings.
Tonight’s ref may turn out to be utter tosh. But that won’t be due to him refereeing in a “pub league”. [Post edited 15 Jul 8:05]
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Top 15 is hardly a boast is it ffs? We are talking about reffing one of the absolute elite games in global football here. A WC semi final with two teams who don't really like each other much.
I have seen a reasonable amount of MLS, not loads but probably just as much as the casual fan, and even seen a couple of games live in NYC.
The best player pre Messi was Carlos Vela...
I don't need some Opta guff to tell me it's not really up to the same level as England v Argentina in a world cup semi final.
Are you confidently, hand on heart, telling me you wouldn't feel more comfortable with a ref with Champions League experience? Of which I think there was two. [Post edited 15 Jul 8:17]
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