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Andy Burnham gonna be any good for us en? (n/t) on 20:11 - Jul 20 by Swansea_Blue
Heaven forbid we have a minister with an interest in environmental matters as the Environment Sec. He’s a decent enough pick for FS as that’s going to be a tough gig, but I was hoping he’d stay as ES.
We’re succumbing to aggressive industry lobbying and fanatical anti-environment press pushing anti-green ideas and we really need to sort that out. Not having sustainable, local energy is core to many of our problems and costing us environmentally and financially. And we’ve go zero chance of hitting 30x30 conservation targets in the next 4 years unless there’s radical action there either.
Personally I would rather Miliband went to the back benches. His betrayal of the innocent Syrians who were murdered by Assad is shameful. Thankfully as FS he can be overruled by Burnham.
Don't cry because it's over; smile because it happened.
Andy Burnham gonna be any good for us en? (n/t) on 18:51 - Jul 20 by positivity
she'd have to be excellent in the first place to remain so!
If I could only have got rid of one it would have been that evil bitch. That’s not good news; I don’t think people have any idea how damaging that’s going to be (and how damaging she’s been already). I wish someone had the balls to tell the racists to feck off and just do what’s needed to protect the interests of the UK organisations and people.
Andy Burnham gonna be any good for us en? (n/t) on 20:15 - Jul 20 by GlasgowBlue
Personally I would rather Miliband went to the back benches. His betrayal of the innocent Syrians who were murdered by Assad is shameful. Thankfully as FS he can be overruled by Burnham.
it's not just the betrayal of the syrians, it was the event above all others that invigorated putin and empowered his expansionism which has led to where we are today.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Andy Burnham gonna be any good for us en? (n/t) on 20:33 - Jul 20 with 1179 views
Andy Burnham gonna be any good for us en? (n/t) on 20:21 - Jul 20 by lowhouseblue
it's not just the betrayal of the syrians, it was the event above all others that invigorated putin and empowered his expansionism which has led to where we are today.
From Oz Katerji
"Ed Miliband’s position on Syria in response to Assad’s nerve gas massacre in Ghouta had profoundly devastating consequences for the Syrian people, and he remains utterly unrepentant.
It is not just that he got it wrong, and gambled with Syrian lives for domestic political point scoring, it’s that he remains convinced he was acting in both the interest of the public and the people of Syria. Someone with those views is unfit for the office.
He has now been elevated to that role, and there is little any of the depressingly small number of people who actively tried to convince the Labour Party in 2013 to vote with the government can do about it.
But his refusal to even reevaluate his biggest moral failure is something I simply cannot forgive. It’s ok to get things wrong, even massively consequential things, if you can admit you got them wrong.
Britain now has a foreign secretary whose position remains to this day that there should have been no military consequences towards the Assad regime for using nerve gas on children.
That to me is unconscionable. I will not withdraw my support from the Labour Party because of one cabinet appointment I disagree with, no matter how strongly, but I won’t remain without voicing my disgust. A catastrophic decision he faced no consequences for whatsoever".
I remember at the time how livid David Cameron was with Miliband after initially indicating he would support the vote to join Obama's action against Assad, only to change his mind at the last minute.
Don't cry because it's over; smile because it happened.
Andy Burnham gonna be any good for us en? (n/t) on 20:33 - Jul 20 by GlasgowBlue
From Oz Katerji
"Ed Miliband’s position on Syria in response to Assad’s nerve gas massacre in Ghouta had profoundly devastating consequences for the Syrian people, and he remains utterly unrepentant.
It is not just that he got it wrong, and gambled with Syrian lives for domestic political point scoring, it’s that he remains convinced he was acting in both the interest of the public and the people of Syria. Someone with those views is unfit for the office.
He has now been elevated to that role, and there is little any of the depressingly small number of people who actively tried to convince the Labour Party in 2013 to vote with the government can do about it.
But his refusal to even reevaluate his biggest moral failure is something I simply cannot forgive. It’s ok to get things wrong, even massively consequential things, if you can admit you got them wrong.
Britain now has a foreign secretary whose position remains to this day that there should have been no military consequences towards the Assad regime for using nerve gas on children.
That to me is unconscionable. I will not withdraw my support from the Labour Party because of one cabinet appointment I disagree with, no matter how strongly, but I won’t remain without voicing my disgust. A catastrophic decision he faced no consequences for whatsoever".
I remember at the time how livid David Cameron was with Miliband after initially indicating he would support the vote to join Obama's action against Assad, only to change his mind at the last minute.
and he introduced the voting system that led to corbyn. two of the most consequential errors in that decade.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Andy Burnham gonna be any good for us en? (n/t) on 21:10 - Jul 20 with 1091 views
Time will tell but after the hoodwinking Starmer pulled, I’m very much in “Don’t tell me, show me.” camp. Unfortunately, he’s left Shabana Mahmood in post at the Home Office. Picture of her with a big smile on her face on the BBC website, no doubt ecstatic that she can continue persecuting immigrants; just like her family hoped she would when they came to this country…..
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Andy Burnham gonna be any good for us en? (n/t) on 21:37 - Jul 20 with 1041 views
Streeting is an interesting one … what was his game plan..there obviously was one going months back.. he’s in the cabinet in arguably the same level of hierarchy but not now his passion….I’m guessing it was a Tuchel semifinal type manoeuvre ?
Andy Burnham gonna be any good for us en? (n/t) on 20:33 - Jul 20 by GlasgowBlue
From Oz Katerji
"Ed Miliband’s position on Syria in response to Assad’s nerve gas massacre in Ghouta had profoundly devastating consequences for the Syrian people, and he remains utterly unrepentant.
It is not just that he got it wrong, and gambled with Syrian lives for domestic political point scoring, it’s that he remains convinced he was acting in both the interest of the public and the people of Syria. Someone with those views is unfit for the office.
He has now been elevated to that role, and there is little any of the depressingly small number of people who actively tried to convince the Labour Party in 2013 to vote with the government can do about it.
But his refusal to even reevaluate his biggest moral failure is something I simply cannot forgive. It’s ok to get things wrong, even massively consequential things, if you can admit you got them wrong.
Britain now has a foreign secretary whose position remains to this day that there should have been no military consequences towards the Assad regime for using nerve gas on children.
That to me is unconscionable. I will not withdraw my support from the Labour Party because of one cabinet appointment I disagree with, no matter how strongly, but I won’t remain without voicing my disgust. A catastrophic decision he faced no consequences for whatsoever".
I remember at the time how livid David Cameron was with Miliband after initially indicating he would support the vote to join Obama's action against Assad, only to change his mind at the last minute.
Interesting downvote VT. What do you dispute in the words posted?
Don't cry because it's over; smile because it happened.
Andy Burnham gonna be any good for us en? (n/t) on 14:42 - Jul 20 by GlasgowBlue
It needs a long term strategy. He only has three years left which isn't enough time. He needs to set out his case for re election so he can see his plans fulfilled.
Dragging this back up, I saw on YouGov today a question around this.
"Realistically, how long do you think a new Government needs in order to make significant improvements to the state of the country".
Then, in order of popularity:
1 year - 20% 6 months - 16% 2 years - 15% Don't know - 13% Straight away - 10% 3 years - 8% 5 years - 8% 4 years - 4% 10 years - 3% Longer than 10 - 2% 7 years - 1%
Nearly half the country (46%) thinks you could significantly fix the issues we face within a year.
Andy Burnham gonna be any good for us en? (n/t) on 07:33 - Jul 21 by bluelagos
He's put ID cards where they belong - in the bin.
Indeed, authoritarian and a criminal waste of money. Next to undo the classifying protestors as terrorists, bring back jury trials, and keep our civil liberties.
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Andy Burnham gonna be any good for us en? (n/t) on 10:47 - Jul 21 with 405 views
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