| Going under the radar 09:57 - Aug 18 with 4755 views | nick141 |
Jonathan Wilson on Libero podcast this morning said 'none of the three clubs are getting anywher close to Sunderland's expenditure' last year. He's normally well informed. This, combined with the fact my non-ipswich friends didn't realise how much we're spending makes me think that we are very much going under the radar.
I think they could be a bit surprised when they see our team at the end of august!
For what it's worth, i don't mind it! [Post edited 18 Aug 9:57]
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| Going under the radar on 10:02 - Aug 18 with 4082 views | hsg78 |
I love it. | | | |
| Going under the radar on 10:06 - Aug 18 with 3970 views | Blue_Heath |
| Going under the radar on 10:02 - Aug 18 by hsg78 |
I love it. |
Got an email this morning where so called experts did their relegation predictions. Every single one had us to go down.
Ultimately 4th bottom is fine but if we could do a Sunderland that would be amazing. | |
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| Going under the radar on 10:08 - Aug 18 with 3924 views | Matt_Netherlands |
| Going under the radar on 10:06 - Aug 18 by Blue_Heath |
Got an email this morning where so called experts did their relegation predictions. Every single one had us to go down.
Ultimately 4th bottom is fine but if we could do a Sunderland that would be amazing. |
I’d bit rogue hand off for 17th on goals scored right now.
I’m loving the signings we’re making / have made, but in reality we were absolutely miles off it last time we were in the prem, so we’re playing catch up really. That’s not me being negative, just gives me the fear slightly when I hear anyone reference anything other than scraping survival! |  | | |
| It was noticeable yesterday…. on 10:09 - Aug 18 with 3914 views | Bloots |
….that us spending £50m on two players was barely reported on but Frank Lampard’s Coventry spending £9m on that lump from Forest was all over the TV and radio.
Plus I had the misfortune of seeing Clinton Morrison on SSN yesterday. I genuinely think that my dog knows more about football than he does.
All irrelevant obviously, but amusing nonetheless. |  |
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| Going under the radar on 10:11 - Aug 18 with 3859 views | _CliveBaker_ |
I think there's 2 ways of looking at it. From an ITFC perspective we've spent money, we're feeling quite bullish and excited at the prospect of seeing the new additions and hoping we can survive, and rightly so.
I suppose the more pessimistic view and as a neutral you might say we've bought a player who got relegated at Burnley last season, a winger who got relegated with Leicester for the past 2 years, 2 from Fulham - a club we aspire to outpace but they deem them surplus, Enciso who didn't make it at Brighton and got relegated here last time, a keeper who also didn't make it at Brighton and nobody would've lost any sleep over had he gone to Hull or Coventry instead, a huge fee on an unproven forward with only a handful of goals to his name in professional football, Maeda who has looked good albeit in a pub league, and Chuba Akpom.
Not to be negative about it but we do have a tendency as fans to get carried away at times. |  | | |
| Going under the radar on 10:13 - Aug 18 with 3792 views | JammyDodgerrr |
In his defense, he probably recorded it before we spent £50m yesterday. |  |
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| It was noticeable yesterday…. on 10:16 - Aug 18 with 3738 views | Churchman |
| It was noticeable yesterday…. on 10:09 - Aug 18 by Bloots |
….that us spending £50m on two players was barely reported on but Frank Lampard’s Coventry spending £9m on that lump from Forest was all over the TV and radio.
Plus I had the misfortune of seeing Clinton Morrison on SSN yesterday. I genuinely think that my dog knows more about football than he does.
All irrelevant obviously, but amusing nonetheless. |
I noticed that re Coventry breaking the bank on whoever at £9m
I also suffered Morrison on the Premier League Show yesterday. Why I left it on I’ll never know. He really is as thick as mince. Painful. Kept praying for Coventry to survive and thinks they will presumably because he played for them for a year or two.
Shan’t be watching that rubbish again.
Edit: under the radar is good! Let them focus on fat Frank and his merry men. [Post edited 18 Aug 10:17]
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| Going under the radar on 10:18 - Aug 18 with 3655 views | portmanroadblue |
| Going under the radar on 10:11 - Aug 18 by _CliveBaker_ |
I think there's 2 ways of looking at it. From an ITFC perspective we've spent money, we're feeling quite bullish and excited at the prospect of seeing the new additions and hoping we can survive, and rightly so.
I suppose the more pessimistic view and as a neutral you might say we've bought a player who got relegated at Burnley last season, a winger who got relegated with Leicester for the past 2 years, 2 from Fulham - a club we aspire to outpace but they deem them surplus, Enciso who didn't make it at Brighton and got relegated here last time, a keeper who also didn't make it at Brighton and nobody would've lost any sleep over had he gone to Hull or Coventry instead, a huge fee on an unproven forward with only a handful of goals to his name in professional football, Maeda who has looked good albeit in a pub league, and Chuba Akpom.
Not to be negative about it but we do have a tendency as fans to get carried away at times. |
But they are a step up from 2 years ago......hopefully [Post edited 18 Aug 10:19]
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| It was noticeable yesterday…. on 10:20 - Aug 18 with 3594 views | dirtyboy |
| It was noticeable yesterday…. on 10:09 - Aug 18 by Bloots |
….that us spending £50m on two players was barely reported on but Frank Lampard’s Coventry spending £9m on that lump from Forest was all over the TV and radio.
Plus I had the misfortune of seeing Clinton Morrison on SSN yesterday. I genuinely think that my dog knows more about football than he does.
All irrelevant obviously, but amusing nonetheless. |
Morrison put Coventry in the bottom 3, then said because he'd seen they'd spent £100m he was about to change his mind.
I'm fine with this all.
Just hope GON knows what he's doing with what he might have at his disposal! |  | | |
| Going under the radar on 10:23 - Aug 18 with 3502 views | Garv |
I think we'll always go under the radar to an extent.
Even if people acknowledge we have a great history we're seen as a small club by most, rightly or wrongly. Little old Ipswich, sleepy Suffolk etc.
I think there was a bit of interest from outside last time, how we got promoted, McKenna with the United connection and the fact we'd been away for so long. Now, we're just another yoyo club. I'd like to think we're a rung above Burnley in most peoples' eyes but probably not.
It'll take a while before people sit up and take notice, essentially. |  |
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| Going under the radar on 10:23 - Aug 18 with 3492 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Going under the radar on 10:18 - Aug 18 by portmanroadblue |
But they are a step up from 2 years ago......hopefully [Post edited 18 Aug 10:19]
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No doubt. We're way stronger, I guess the question is are we 20 points stronger and better over a season than a Fulham, Sunderland, Palace or whoever else we might need to out pace.
Time will tell, lets hope so. | | | |
| Going under the radar on 10:34 - Aug 18 with 3360 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Going under the radar on 10:06 - Aug 18 by Blue_Heath |
Got an email this morning where so called experts did their relegation predictions. Every single one had us to go down.
Ultimately 4th bottom is fine but if we could do a Sunderland that would be amazing. |
Ashley Young predicts we finish 7th. Inside information, he knows what we need and presumably is satisfied with progress. Being made. |  |
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| Going under the radar on 11:01 - Aug 18 with 3085 views | ThatMuhrenCross |
It's very peculiar. Bearing in mind, we've come up with a far better team than Sunderland did, and by the end of this transfer window will have spent significantly more on improvements than they did, it all just feels like very lazy journalism. Some of them will wake up soon and be like "where did Ipswich unearth all these amazing players from?" |  |
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| Going under the radar on 11:17 - Aug 18 with 2935 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
I didn't know Libero had his own podcast. |  |
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| It was noticeable yesterday…. on 11:18 - Aug 18 with 2915 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| It was noticeable yesterday…. on 10:09 - Aug 18 by Bloots |
….that us spending £50m on two players was barely reported on but Frank Lampard’s Coventry spending £9m on that lump from Forest was all over the TV and radio.
Plus I had the misfortune of seeing Clinton Morrison on SSN yesterday. I genuinely think that my dog knows more about football than he does.
All irrelevant obviously, but amusing nonetheless. |
I bet your dog mostly knows about Leeds. | |
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| It was noticeable yesterday…. on 11:24 - Aug 18 with 2828 views | bartyg |
| It was noticeable yesterday…. on 10:09 - Aug 18 by Bloots |
….that us spending £50m on two players was barely reported on but Frank Lampard’s Coventry spending £9m on that lump from Forest was all over the TV and radio.
Plus I had the misfortune of seeing Clinton Morrison on SSN yesterday. I genuinely think that my dog knows more about football than he does.
All irrelevant obviously, but amusing nonetheless. |
Prefer it this way. Far less pressure on us than there was last time.
Imagine once we do break the spending record there will be some eyes (by all intents pretty much any incoming will do this). Could see us hitting £200m if a Philogene move happens. |  |
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| Going under the radar on 11:38 - Aug 18 with 2716 views | GavTWTD |
| Going under the radar on 10:13 - Aug 18 by JammyDodgerrr |
In his defense, he probably recorded it before we spent £50m yesterday. |
Sky reported both as "undisclosed". Not sure if that was updated later. |  |
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| Going under the radar on 11:55 - Aug 18 with 2545 views | Vaughan8 |
| Going under the radar on 10:06 - Aug 18 by Blue_Heath |
Got an email this morning where so called experts did their relegation predictions. Every single one had us to go down.
Ultimately 4th bottom is fine but if we could do a Sunderland that would be amazing. |
I'm sure pretty much everyone is going to have 2 of the 3 promoted clubs in their bottom 3 predictions and Coventry seem to be the one people think can survive....
I definitely think we can finish above the other 2 promoted teams, so we just need 1 other. I have no idea how good the likes of Fulham, Sunderland, even say a Bournemouth will be so at this stage of the season it's difficult to know so they just go with the usual suspects (and I don't even know how good we are yet!) [Post edited 18 Aug 11:55]
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| Going under the radar on 12:01 - Aug 18 with 2432 views | Guthrum |
| Going under the radar on 10:23 - Aug 18 by _CliveBaker_ |
No doubt. We're way stronger, I guess the question is are we 20 points stronger and better over a season than a Fulham, Sunderland, Palace or whoever else we might need to out pace.
Time will tell, lets hope so. |
The margins were tighter than a lot of people perceive. If we'd conceded just one fewer goal in each home game against teams who finished in the bottom half of the table, that would have harvested nine more points, putting us close on the heels of Spurs in 17th.
A marginally better overall defence - plus not so much running out of steam at the end of matches - would very likely have seen us to safety, even with the flaws elsewhere on the pitch.
Edit: 20 points might not be so hard to find as it looks on the surface.
And I think many pundits and fans of other clubs are falling into the same trap. [Post edited 18 Aug 12:03]
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| Going under the radar on 12:19 - Aug 18 with 2311 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Going under the radar on 12:01 - Aug 18 by Guthrum |
The margins were tighter than a lot of people perceive. If we'd conceded just one fewer goal in each home game against teams who finished in the bottom half of the table, that would have harvested nine more points, putting us close on the heels of Spurs in 17th.
A marginally better overall defence - plus not so much running out of steam at the end of matches - would very likely have seen us to safety, even with the flaws elsewhere on the pitch.
Edit: 20 points might not be so hard to find as it looks on the surface.
And I think many pundits and fans of other clubs are falling into the same trap. [Post edited 18 Aug 12:03]
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If my auntie had b0llocks she'd be my uncle.
Lets be honest, we were routinely beaten by most sides we came up against and fell well short in the end, going down with 22 points and a -46 goal difference. It was men against boys at times. [Post edited 18 Aug 12:22]
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| Going under the radar on 12:45 - Aug 18 with 1966 views | braveblue |
| Going under the radar on 10:11 - Aug 18 by _CliveBaker_ |
I think there's 2 ways of looking at it. From an ITFC perspective we've spent money, we're feeling quite bullish and excited at the prospect of seeing the new additions and hoping we can survive, and rightly so.
I suppose the more pessimistic view and as a neutral you might say we've bought a player who got relegated at Burnley last season, a winger who got relegated with Leicester for the past 2 years, 2 from Fulham - a club we aspire to outpace but they deem them surplus, Enciso who didn't make it at Brighton and got relegated here last time, a keeper who also didn't make it at Brighton and nobody would've lost any sleep over had he gone to Hull or Coventry instead, a huge fee on an unproven forward with only a handful of goals to his name in professional football, Maeda who has looked good albeit in a pub league, and Chuba Akpom.
Not to be negative about it but we do have a tendency as fans to get carried away at times. |
Maeda looked good in Champions League. Or does that not count either? | | | |
| Going under the radar on 12:58 - Aug 18 with 1889 views | Guthrum |
| Going under the radar on 12:19 - Aug 18 by _CliveBaker_ |
If my auntie had b0llocks she'd be my uncle.
Lets be honest, we were routinely beaten by most sides we came up against and fell well short in the end, going down with 22 points and a -46 goal difference. It was men against boys at times. [Post edited 18 Aug 12:22]
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I'm not arguing that our defence was adequate last time in the Prem, quite the opposite. We were weak and ran out of steam too often*.
More that a relatively limited improvement in that department would have put us in with a decent shout of survival. An change in goals conceded comparable to that achieved between 2023-24 and last season (applied to the most benevolent scenarios).
20 points - nearly doubling our tally - sounds like a mountain to climb in reaching the standard required. But it isn't. A relatively small (if expensive) degree of tightening up can cut that deficit significantly. Then, if we can score a few more goals too, puts the team in the right ball park.
* However, even teams like Arsenal had to battle to overcome us (more in the first half of the season). | |
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| Going under the radar on 13:00 - Aug 18 with 1875 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Going under the radar on 12:45 - Aug 18 by braveblue |
Maeda looked good in Champions League. Or does that not count either? |
He's also been good for Japan.
I'm not saying I don't rate him by the way, I think he's a very good addition. Just putting an alternative view out there as to why the wider footballing world might be taking less notice of us signing the likes of Fatawu, Diop and Florentino as we naturally would do as fans. They're all good players. | | | |
| Going under the radar on 13:42 - Aug 18 with 1599 views | Blue_Heath |
| Going under the radar on 10:08 - Aug 18 by Matt_Netherlands |
I’d bit rogue hand off for 17th on goals scored right now.
I’m loving the signings we’re making / have made, but in reality we were absolutely miles off it last time we were in the prem, so we’re playing catch up really. That’s not me being negative, just gives me the fear slightly when I hear anyone reference anything other than scraping survival! |
Yes, as you say it wasn't even close last time. I'd say after 8 games we looked done despite obviously the table at the time making it look not too bad.
I'd say making a good fight of staying up but finishing 3rd bottom is still quite likely but obviously we want more. People dreaming of Europe and top half etc is not for me, let's secure 4th bottom first and see where we go from there. | |
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| Going under the radar on 13:56 - Aug 18 with 1475 views | Meadowlark |
| Going under the radar on 10:23 - Aug 18 by Garv |
I think we'll always go under the radar to an extent.
Even if people acknowledge we have a great history we're seen as a small club by most, rightly or wrongly. Little old Ipswich, sleepy Suffolk etc.
I think there was a bit of interest from outside last time, how we got promoted, McKenna with the United connection and the fact we'd been away for so long. Now, we're just another yoyo club. I'd like to think we're a rung above Burnley in most peoples' eyes but probably not.
It'll take a while before people sit up and take notice, essentially. |
People will (might?) sit up and take notice when there is actually something to sit up and take notice of.
So far, we've spent quite a bit of money, acquired what some say are decent players, but all of them are yet to kick a ball in the PL for us, so although we can be optimistic let's not get carried away. We all know that 11 great players do not necessarily make a great team.
The pre-season is always a time when we can get excited. After that the reality kicks in.
It's been a long summer and I'm really looking forward to seeing what we can do this time around.
I'm quietly confident. Not noisily confident. |  | | |
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