| Carrick sacked 10:57 - Nov 12 with 1720 views | Mullet |
The laughable nature of their ownership and the expectation amongst the fanbase is almost a perfect mix of toxic isn’t it?
Wonder where he will turn up next. |  |
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| Carrick sacked on 11:20 - Nov 12 | Miaow |
Hopefully the new manager will fare no better. |  |
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| Carrick sacked on 11:22 - Nov 12 | giant_stow |
Could even be you guys?
...not a completely bonkers thought. |  |
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| Carrick sacked on 11:45 - Nov 12 | Basuco |
| Carrick sacked on 11:22 - Nov 12 by giant_stow |
Could even be you guys?
...not a completely bonkers thought. |
I do feel that GON is safe even if Town get relegated, but who knows in the bonkers world of Premier League football! |  | | |
| Carrick sacked on 12:02 - Nov 12 | OldFart71 |
| Carrick sacked on 11:45 - Nov 12 by Basuco |
I do feel that GON is safe even if Town get relegated, but who knows in the bonkers world of Premier League football! |
Sad for Carrick, I wonder if KM has spoken to him as they seemed pretty close ?
As for GON I am not 100% sure his job is safe. We were supposed to be better prepared than our last foray into the Premier League and whilst it's still early days and many games to go we have gone backwards. Which in some ways rather makes the new training facilities having the reverse effect.
Whilst MA always points out they are a place of work sometimes you can make it too cosy for these overpaid cosseted players. It is in a way quite sad that a club has to spend millions to entice players to come to the club. Surely their bulging bank accounts more than make up for having to put your boots on in a portacabin.
As I say I don't think having spent £200 million plus and adding hugely to the wage bill makes GON's job secure as it is my belief that this is the season the owners want us to remain and improve our position in the Premier League.
Some supporters may wish we were back in the Championship, but if it happened several of the players at the club would move on and it would be another case of yet another rebuild. |  | | |
| Carrick sacked on 12:20 - Nov 12 | DarkBrandon |
| Carrick sacked on 11:45 - Nov 12 by Basuco |
I do feel that GON is safe even if Town get relegated, but who knows in the bonkers world of Premier League football! |
Oh, I don’t. There are few jobs more perilous than that of a manager of a relegation threatened PL club. Most boards roll the dice and hope that a new manager will improve form enough to keep them up.
Us keeping McKenna was the exception. Was that because the board valued stability … or was it because the board rated McKenna exceptionally highly. If we keep shipping goals we might find out in January |  | | |
| Carrick sacked on 12:29 - Nov 12 | MattinLondon |
| Carrick sacked on 12:02 - Nov 12 by OldFart71 |
Sad for Carrick, I wonder if KM has spoken to him as they seemed pretty close ?
As for GON I am not 100% sure his job is safe. We were supposed to be better prepared than our last foray into the Premier League and whilst it's still early days and many games to go we have gone backwards. Which in some ways rather makes the new training facilities having the reverse effect.
Whilst MA always points out they are a place of work sometimes you can make it too cosy for these overpaid cosseted players. It is in a way quite sad that a club has to spend millions to entice players to come to the club. Surely their bulging bank accounts more than make up for having to put your boots on in a portacabin.
As I say I don't think having spent £200 million plus and adding hugely to the wage bill makes GON's job secure as it is my belief that this is the season the owners want us to remain and improve our position in the Premier League.
Some supporters may wish we were back in the Championship, but if it happened several of the players at the club would move on and it would be another case of yet another rebuild. |
Gone backwards? We’re a few points above the bottom three and a few points off the top eight. |  | | |
| Carrick sacked on 12:31 - Nov 12 | mellowblue |
| Carrick sacked on 12:02 - Nov 12 by OldFart71 |
Sad for Carrick, I wonder if KM has spoken to him as they seemed pretty close ?
As for GON I am not 100% sure his job is safe. We were supposed to be better prepared than our last foray into the Premier League and whilst it's still early days and many games to go we have gone backwards. Which in some ways rather makes the new training facilities having the reverse effect.
Whilst MA always points out they are a place of work sometimes you can make it too cosy for these overpaid cosseted players. It is in a way quite sad that a club has to spend millions to entice players to come to the club. Surely their bulging bank accounts more than make up for having to put your boots on in a portacabin.
As I say I don't think having spent £200 million plus and adding hugely to the wage bill makes GON's job secure as it is my belief that this is the season the owners want us to remain and improve our position in the Premier League.
Some supporters may wish we were back in the Championship, but if it happened several of the players at the club would move on and it would be another case of yet another rebuild. |
I think he is safe for this season. His success/fail criterium for this season is purely a matter of relegation or not. I doubt we will be either safe or relegated until April as it could be a tight run race so I expect he will be here until the end of the season at least. Difficult to know how much of a say he had over the player trading, apart from Ouatarra and Enciso. Assuming a lot of the others were some way down the pipeline when he signed up, would they have been his choices. The midfielders brought in for instance all seem very similar and aren't bringing different attributes. Whether we stay up or not, I see the squad changing quite a lot next season, anyway. | | | |
| Carrick sacked on 12:35 - Nov 12 | mellowblue |
Pretty disrespectful to Carrick really. I am glad the fans still support him as a man if not as the manager. Presumably Poch will sign on, he is a different personality to Carrick so might be able to deal with the egos better. Think Carrick would make a good Town manager, though he has had 2 good starts at clubs and tailed off quickly. Would have thought he is on Ashton's secret contact list. | | | |
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| Carrick sacked on 13:00 - Nov 12 | Guthrum |
| Carrick sacked on 11:22 - Nov 12 by giant_stow |
Could even be you guys?
...not a completely bonkers thought. |
Unlikely. Doesn't come across as quite the right kind of fit for the managers we've hired in the Gamechanger era.
Besides which, can't see us firing O'Neil any time soon. |  |
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| Carrick sacked on 13:15 - Nov 12 | Guthrum |
| Carrick sacked on 12:29 - Nov 12 by MattinLondon |
Gone backwards? We’re a few points above the bottom three and a few points off the top eight. |
In 2024-24 we were only out of the relegation zone for a short period early in the season, at best (and just for one week) two points clear. This season we haven't been lower than 14th and sit three points above ManC in 18th, with the same GD and more goals scored. | |
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| Carrick sacked on 13:18 - Nov 12 | giant_stow |
| Carrick sacked on 13:00 - Nov 12 by Guthrum |
Unlikely. Doesn't come across as quite the right kind of fit for the managers we've hired in the Gamechanger era.
Besides which, can't see us firing O'Neil any time soon. |
I know nothing obviously, but Carrick doens't seem that different to your current guy: not a newbe / a bit of success / a bit of failure. | |
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| Carrick sacked on 13:43 - Nov 12 | Guthrum |
| Carrick sacked on 13:18 - Nov 12 by giant_stow |
I know nothing obviously, but Carrick doens't seem that different to your current guy: not a newbe / a bit of success / a bit of failure. |
However, O'Neil has specific experience and a track record in situations like that where we find ourselves - success in a Prem relegation battle.
Carrick ran Middlesbrough for three seasons in the Championship, doing pretty well, but nothing outstanding (for a club used to McKenna's achievements). Then jumped to ManU via a caretaker role (helped by having done that before, plus working as Assistant and having been a long-term, well-regarded player). None of that really fits where Ipswich Town are at the moment.
I wouldn't say he's an blindingly obvious candidate even if we got relegated in the summer. Decent, yes, but nothing really special. | |
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| Carrick sacked on 13:52 - Nov 12 | giant_stow |
| Carrick sacked on 13:43 - Nov 12 by Guthrum |
However, O'Neil has specific experience and a track record in situations like that where we find ourselves - success in a Prem relegation battle.
Carrick ran Middlesbrough for three seasons in the Championship, doing pretty well, but nothing outstanding (for a club used to McKenna's achievements). Then jumped to ManU via a caretaker role (helped by having done that before, plus working as Assistant and having been a long-term, well-regarded player). None of that really fits where Ipswich Town are at the moment.
I wouldn't say he's an blindingly obvious candidate even if we got relegated in the summer. Decent, yes, but nothing really special. |
That's all fair and reasonable (as ever!) and I will now stop sticking my nose in. | |
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| Carrick sacked on 13:54 - Nov 12 | mellowblue |
| Carrick sacked on 13:43 - Nov 12 by Guthrum |
However, O'Neil has specific experience and a track record in situations like that where we find ourselves - success in a Prem relegation battle.
Carrick ran Middlesbrough for three seasons in the Championship, doing pretty well, but nothing outstanding (for a club used to McKenna's achievements). Then jumped to ManU via a caretaker role (helped by having done that before, plus working as Assistant and having been a long-term, well-regarded player). None of that really fits where Ipswich Town are at the moment.
I wouldn't say he's an blindingly obvious candidate even if we got relegated in the summer. Decent, yes, but nothing really special. |
I think he would be on the radar, especially if we needed a change in a hurry. But it would not surprise me if we did not follow the trends at other clubs and have a foreign appointment. Even Naarwich have a furriner. | | | |
| Carrick sacked on 17:33 - Nov 12 | Radlett_blue |
| Carrick sacked on 12:20 - Nov 12 by DarkBrandon |
Oh, I don’t. There are few jobs more perilous than that of a manager of a relegation threatened PL club. Most boards roll the dice and hope that a new manager will improve form enough to keep them up.
Us keeping McKenna was the exception. Was that because the board valued stability … or was it because the board rated McKenna exceptionally highly. If we keep shipping goals we might find out in January |
McKenna had won us back to back promotions, & we were ill prepared for the PL. This time it's different - GON has been given the resources to give us a decent shot at staying up & if it looks like we are floundering in a month's time, I doubt he will feel secure. |  |
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| Carrick sacked on 18:29 - Nov 12 | Mckenna1263 |
The only premier league victory for MU this season was against us, not a record we should be proud of. We have spent the most of any promoted club in history and far in excess of Hull or Coventry. If we are in bottom 3 by Christmas then I see a change in management given who the owners are. | | | |
| Carrick sacked on 18:50 - Nov 12 | Swansea_Blue |
| Carrick sacked on 11:22 - Nov 12 by giant_stow |
Could even be you guys?
...not a completely bonkers thought. |
Frank was who we should have gone for in the summer and it looks like he’s now the favourite for Palace. I suspect he’ll turn them around no problem. As others have said, I suspect GON will be around for a while.
Man U ownership and decision makers have been basket cases since SAF retired. It’s amazing how poorly they’ve done despite spending a fortune. |  |
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| Carrick sacked on 19:17 - Nov 12 | Plums |
| Carrick sacked on 18:50 - Nov 12 by Swansea_Blue |
Frank was who we should have gone for in the summer and it looks like he’s now the favourite for Palace. I suspect he’ll turn them around no problem. As others have said, I suspect GON will be around for a while.
Man U ownership and decision makers have been basket cases since SAF retired. It’s amazing how poorly they’ve done despite spending a fortune. |
The problems at MU are a warning for fans everywhere. You say they've done poorly but for their owners, it's clear the metrics of 'success' aren't on the football pitch. It's a financial vehicle and it's doing well thank you very much.
They're a sporting equivalent of Thames Water. |  |
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| Carrick sacked on 08:21 - Nov 13 | MK1 |
If we were to be relegated this season and the board didn't fancy GON to get us up, then I could see us going for Carrick.
That said, I think the next Championship club to sack their manager will have Carrick firmly in their minds. |  |
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| Carrick sacked on 09:19 - Nov 13 | TheReturnOfCthulhu |
| Carrick sacked on 18:29 - Nov 12 by Mckenna1263 |
The only premier league victory for MU this season was against us, not a record we should be proud of. We have spent the most of any promoted club in history and far in excess of Hull or Coventry. If we are in bottom 3 by Christmas then I see a change in management given who the owners are. |
That game swung on that handball goal though, the players were rightly incensed and unfortunately lost their heads a bit. If that "goal" had been chalked off, I think we'd have won that game. |  |
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| Carrick sacked on 09:26 - Nov 13 | MattinLondon |
| Carrick sacked on 18:29 - Nov 12 by Mckenna1263 |
The only premier league victory for MU this season was against us, not a record we should be proud of. We have spent the most of any promoted club in history and far in excess of Hull or Coventry. If we are in bottom 3 by Christmas then I see a change in management given who the owners are. |
I’m of the opinion that we simply played them too early before the chaos there really set in. | | | |
| Carrick sacked on 09:36 - Nov 13 | FrimleyBlue |
| Carrick sacked on 12:29 - Nov 12 by MattinLondon |
Gone backwards? We’re a few points above the bottom three and a few points off the top eight. |
That is true. But at one point we were 7 points clear of bottom 3. |  |
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| Carrick sacked on 10:43 - Nov 13 | Cafe_Newman |
| Carrick sacked on 09:36 - Nov 13 by FrimleyBlue |
That is true. But at one point we were 7 points clear of bottom 3. |
Yes, form and league position are good indicators of what might happen in the next match but teams don't follow a linear trajectory based on the first 5 games of the season. Look at Spurs, Bournemouth and Villa as examples of a recent positive turnaround. Look at Man City, Hull and Brentford for the opposite.
Start worrying when:
we regularly lose by a margin of 2+ goals
we stop scoring
we consistently throw away leads
the players drop their heads
The league table after 10 matches means little more that diddly-squit. |  |
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| Carrick sacked on 13:01 - Nov 13 | peterleeblue |
I think if I was a Man Utd fan my expectation would be to at least NOT be in the bottom 3. |  | | |
| Carrick sacked on 13:07 - Nov 13 | MattinLondon |
| Carrick sacked on 13:01 - Nov 13 by peterleeblue |
I think if I was a Man Utd fan my expectation would be to at least NOT be in the bottom 3. |
That’s the thing, people are quick to call Man Utd’s fans “entitled” for expecting to win things but they are a global team, they are a glamour side and they are one of the richest clubs in the world. If they don’t finish in the top 4 as well as Ben in the contention to win a major trophy then their manager would’ve failed. | | | |
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