There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy 21:36 - Nov 6 with 10658 views | nodge_blue | When all the midfield are back. Huws, adeyemi, bishop. All really good players. When they are in the team....we may be half decent. With less reason to bypass midfield. We are 7th without them. We can only be stronger? | |
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There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 21:44 - Nov 6 with 8191 views | Basuco | and they are all the advanced midfielder who would add quality with potential to open up a defence, something we have badly missed for much of this season. | | | |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 21:44 - Nov 6 with 8194 views | kizaitfc | There is also an argument that we should judge Mick on his overall style of play and attitude towards the fans. To be fair though I agree however, I made the point the other day that when you look at the number of midfielders we have had play in the middle, I cant think of when we consistently used them and did not simply go long. Therefore the blame is either laid on Micks doorstep or the defence, I think its both, when you hear Micks comments regarding Celina at losing the ball in areas it make me wonder whether Mick has the safety first approach and thats what the defence pay out | |
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There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 21:45 - Nov 6 with 8191 views | Darth_Koont | Hopefully we can be stronger. But bit of an "on paper" argument until it happens. And knowing us we'll probably start drawing a lot of games instead. But at least we can give him credit for currently putting a side together that can get points without anything like a first-choice midfield. | |
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There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 21:51 - Nov 6 with 8169 views | nodge_blue |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 21:44 - Nov 6 by kizaitfc | There is also an argument that we should judge Mick on his overall style of play and attitude towards the fans. To be fair though I agree however, I made the point the other day that when you look at the number of midfielders we have had play in the middle, I cant think of when we consistently used them and did not simply go long. Therefore the blame is either laid on Micks doorstep or the defence, I think its both, when you hear Micks comments regarding Celina at losing the ball in areas it make me wonder whether Mick has the safety first approach and thats what the defence pay out |
It seems inevitable that micks style will be to move the ball quickly forward. And reasonably direct. But you see Leicester do that and do it with a bit of style. Midfielders that can move it quickly and run with it will help. It's not inconceivable that we could see better performances if they return and are on form. Look how much better our defence was with webster back on form. | |
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There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 22:04 - Nov 6 with 8135 views | Currie10 | 8th ;) People have already written us off. However, Bishop appears to be permanently injured so not going to even think of him for the season. If he comes back, great. Adeyemi appears made of glass so far. However, Huws when back I think should make a major difference to our play. Only issue I can see with Huws, is will Mick REALLY keep the front 4, with Huws, and Skuse as the only water carrier!? Be interesting as to how Huws fits in but it appears the front 4 MUST all play! | | | |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 22:51 - Nov 6 with 8069 views | factual_blue | People on here judge MM if they decide he says 'good morning' in way they don't really like. | |
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There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 23:49 - Nov 6 with 7996 views | Garv | Probably. But fans will, at the end of the day, be just as stubborn as our manager is, and some have decided they don't like him and never will. If they did a complete turnaround on that view they would be described as fickle. | |
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There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 23:53 - Nov 6 with 7982 views | fergalsharkey | Bishop 😂😂😂 | |
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There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 06:07 - Nov 7 with 7884 views | Schmoke |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 21:44 - Nov 6 by kizaitfc | There is also an argument that we should judge Mick on his overall style of play and attitude towards the fans. To be fair though I agree however, I made the point the other day that when you look at the number of midfielders we have had play in the middle, I cant think of when we consistently used them and did not simply go long. Therefore the blame is either laid on Micks doorstep or the defence, I think its both, when you hear Micks comments regarding Celina at losing the ball in areas it make me wonder whether Mick has the safety first approach and thats what the defence pay out |
Why on earth should a manager be judged on his attitude towards the fans? Who cares. He's only addressing the moronic few with his comments, and those few make it abundantly clear who they are.... So thanks you lot for making it easier to spot you. | | | |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 07:51 - Nov 7 with 7799 views | nodge_blue |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 23:53 - Nov 6 by fergalsharkey | Bishop 😂😂😂 |
well clearly he has alot to prove after a long time out. But we shouldnt write off young players who have had a dip in form due to injury and loss of confidence. Look at the Villa lad we let go under Keane. Bishop can still be a good player. | |
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There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 07:55 - Nov 7 with 7788 views | OsborneOneNil |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 22:04 - Nov 6 by Currie10 | 8th ;) People have already written us off. However, Bishop appears to be permanently injured so not going to even think of him for the season. If he comes back, great. Adeyemi appears made of glass so far. However, Huws when back I think should make a major difference to our play. Only issue I can see with Huws, is will Mick REALLY keep the front 4, with Huws, and Skuse as the only water carrier!? Be interesting as to how Huws fits in but it appears the front 4 MUST all play! |
Huws and Adeyemi to play, drop Skuse. | | | |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 22:35 - Nov 7 with 7632 views | Currie10 |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 07:55 - Nov 7 by OsborneOneNil | Huws and Adeyemi to play, drop Skuse. |
That clear as day isn't going to happen. With the fab 4 upfront all needing to start + Skuse, I think Huws has a major issue fitting into the jigsaw personally..... What was he like defensively last season? | | | |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 22:41 - Nov 7 with 7622 views | StNeotsBlue |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 06:07 - Nov 7 by Schmoke | Why on earth should a manager be judged on his attitude towards the fans? Who cares. He's only addressing the moronic few with his comments, and those few make it abundantly clear who they are.... So thanks you lot for making it easier to spot you. |
I'm not convinced that is the case, his comments are general and come across as encompassing all. I always get the impression with MMc that Sunderland and Wolves were his loves, we're more of a marriage of convenience. [Post edited 7 Nov 2017 23:05]
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There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 23:25 - Nov 7 with 7548 views | Darth_Koont |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 22:41 - Nov 7 by StNeotsBlue | I'm not convinced that is the case, his comments are general and come across as encompassing all. I always get the impression with MMc that Sunderland and Wolves were his loves, we're more of a marriage of convenience. [Post edited 7 Nov 2017 23:05]
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And Barnsley and Millwall and the Republic of Ireland ... To me, he seems to attach himself to the club and the job. If that means he considers some fans and their views to be poisonous and anti the club he now represents then so be it. | |
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There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 23:40 - Nov 7 with 7527 views | StNeotsBlue |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 23:25 - Nov 7 by Darth_Koont | And Barnsley and Millwall and the Republic of Ireland ... To me, he seems to attach himself to the club and the job. If that means he considers some fans and their views to be poisonous and anti the club he now represents then so be it. |
I'm not massively pro or anti MMc I just want us to win every week as I'm selfish and an Ipswich fan, but I've never got the vibe from his statements that we're a big deal for him and he has any real feeling for the club. Which is a shame. | | | |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 01:06 - Nov 8 with 7490 views | Darth_Koont |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 23:40 - Nov 7 by StNeotsBlue | I'm not massively pro or anti MMc I just want us to win every week as I'm selfish and an Ipswich fan, but I've never got the vibe from his statements that we're a big deal for him and he has any real feeling for the club. Which is a shame. |
How did he talk differently about Wolves or Sunderland when he was there? I haven't a clue. | |
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There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 07:52 - Nov 8 with 7400 views | howdonblue | WHAT ABOUT LAST SEASON WHEN WE WERE SXXT AS WELL!!! he should be judged for the whole picture mate | | | |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 07:59 - Nov 8 with 7395 views | hampstead_blue | I think he can be judged on the poor goals we concede. The midfield is, on paper, very exciting, but the defence has had many years of coaching. | |
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There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 08:20 - Nov 8 with 7382 views | itfcjoe | If we can keep the squad fit throughout the season, there is no reason why we shouldn't stay towards the upper end of the division. Mick needs to find (Or stumble upon?) a way of playing that fits the squad best though. I think he wants to get Skuse, Huws and Adeyemi in there but not quite sure how that will work. Be a nice problem to have to work out though! | |
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There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 08:25 - Nov 8 with 7381 views | Keaneish | He has had 5 years to ge the midfield right but yes, in principle, he does deserve a better appraisal when his signings have had 5 games to gel. If we play three in the middle, who does everyone think the trio should be? Mine's controversial but then again, everyone knows i'm no fan of Skuse. These three are a bit lightweight at the mo but i'd love to see how they gel together and with one eye on next season: Downes, Bishop and Huws. | |
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There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 08:29 - Nov 8 with 7373 views | dickie |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 07:52 - Nov 8 by howdonblue | WHAT ABOUT LAST SEASON WHEN WE WERE SXXT AS WELL!!! he should be judged for the whole picture mate |
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There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 08:30 - Nov 8 with 7365 views | Herbivore |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 08:25 - Nov 8 by Keaneish | He has had 5 years to ge the midfield right but yes, in principle, he does deserve a better appraisal when his signings have had 5 games to gel. If we play three in the middle, who does everyone think the trio should be? Mine's controversial but then again, everyone knows i'm no fan of Skuse. These three are a bit lightweight at the mo but i'd love to see how they gel together and with one eye on next season: Downes, Bishop and Huws. |
Bishop would be nowhere near my starting XI at the moment, he looked pretty terrible in his 15 or so appearances last season and I'd like to see him out on loan to get some football. For me I'd have Skuse, Huws and Adeyemi with plenty of rotating Nydam and Downes into the line up as well. | |
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There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 08:32 - Nov 8 with 7358 views | Herbivore |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 07:52 - Nov 8 by howdonblue | WHAT ABOUT LAST SEASON WHEN WE WERE SXXT AS WELL!!! he should be judged for the whole picture mate |
Cool, so we also go back to him keeping us up in his first season when we were adrift at the bottom and then the finishes in 9th, 6th and 7th. Taking it as a whole then that's three full seasons of overachievement and two part seasons where we've overachieved versus one poor season. Not a bad record that. | |
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There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 08:37 - Nov 8 with 7353 views | Keaneish |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 08:30 - Nov 8 by Herbivore | Bishop would be nowhere near my starting XI at the moment, he looked pretty terrible in his 15 or so appearances last season and I'd like to see him out on loan to get some football. For me I'd have Skuse, Huws and Adeyemi with plenty of rotating Nydam and Downes into the line up as well. |
Yeah, i was thinking of an in form Bishop rather than the current Bishop. I haven't seen anything from Adeyemi yet to say i'm that impressed to warrant a start where as we know what Bishop can/could do. I'm hoping Hyam comes back chomping at the bit and reinvigorated but i can't see this happening. | |
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There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 08:37 - Nov 8 with 7353 views | dickie |
There is an argument that we should only judge McCarthy on 08:32 - Nov 8 by Herbivore | Cool, so we also go back to him keeping us up in his first season when we were adrift at the bottom and then the finishes in 9th, 6th and 7th. Taking it as a whole then that's three full seasons of overachievement and two part seasons where we've overachieved versus one poor season. Not a bad record that. |
Stop talking rational sense you! | | | |
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