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This will upset some.... 10:57 - Jul 16 with 21367 viewsHerbivore

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53427197

Clearly the right decision for me though, and if she has committed crimes she should be tried under UK law when she returns.

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This will upset some.... on 11:01 - Jul 16 with 6676 viewsRadlett_blue

Another huge junket for human rights lawyers, no doubt funded by the taxpayer under the legal aid system.

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This will upset some.... on 11:02 - Jul 16 with 6670 viewsDarth_Koont

The UK government effectively broke international law to make a political statement.

It's just business as normal for this lot.

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This will upset some.... on 11:06 - Jul 16 with 6628 viewsfooters

This will upset some.... on 11:01 - Jul 16 by Radlett_blue

Another huge junket for human rights lawyers, no doubt funded by the taxpayer under the legal aid system.


Bit of an odd take. The UK has tried to absolve itself of responsibility for Begum and attempted to make one of its citizens stateless, contrary to international law.

Maybe if the government hadn't done that, then there'd be no expense to the taxpayer.

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This will upset some.... on 11:12 - Jul 16 with 6604 viewsHerbivore

This will upset some.... on 11:01 - Jul 16 by Radlett_blue

Another huge junket for human rights lawyers, no doubt funded by the taxpayer under the legal aid system.


If the government hadn't made an illegal decision based on pure populism to appeal to its base none of this would have been necessary. Be angry at them for wasting tax payers' money once again.

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This will upset some.... on 11:27 - Jul 16 with 6543 viewsEwan_Oozami

This will upset some.... on 11:01 - Jul 16 by Radlett_blue

Another huge junket for human rights lawyers, no doubt funded by the taxpayer under the legal aid system.


I'd rather fund this than pay Boris' and Cummings' cronies millions for shoddy products and services...

You are the obsolete SRN4 to my Fairey Rotodyne....
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This will upset some.... on 12:02 - Jul 16 with 6476 viewstractordownsouth

The people that jizz their pants when we deport foreign criminals are the same ones frothing at the mouth that this means we have to take responsibility for our own as well

They also don’t realise that if we send her back to Syria, a country with a vastly inferior justice systems, she’s far more likely to re-offend than if she comes back here and goes to prison or provides MI6 with important info on ISIS

Throw the book at her, but that must be done here

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This will upset some.... on 12:04 - Jul 16 with 6442 viewsSpruceMoose

This will upset some.... on 12:02 - Jul 16 by tractordownsouth

The people that jizz their pants when we deport foreign criminals are the same ones frothing at the mouth that this means we have to take responsibility for our own as well

They also don’t realise that if we send her back to Syria, a country with a vastly inferior justice systems, she’s far more likely to re-offend than if she comes back here and goes to prison or provides MI6 with important info on ISIS

Throw the book at her, but that must be done here


It's almost as if vast swathes of 'The People' are finger sniffing cretins of the highest degree.

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This will upset some.... on 12:15 - Jul 16 with 6397 viewsHerbivore

This will upset some.... on 12:02 - Jul 16 by tractordownsouth

The people that jizz their pants when we deport foreign criminals are the same ones frothing at the mouth that this means we have to take responsibility for our own as well

They also don’t realise that if we send her back to Syria, a country with a vastly inferior justice systems, she’s far more likely to re-offend than if she comes back here and goes to prison or provides MI6 with important info on ISIS

Throw the book at her, but that must be done here


It's also the same people who go on about Muslim ray guns abusing 15 year old white girls that think a 15 year old who was basically groomed by ISIS absolutely knew exactly what she was doing and should be strung up. It's almost like their views aren't very consistent and aren't based on reason.

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This will upset some.... on 12:29 - Jul 16 with 6363 viewsitfcjoe

This will upset some.... on 12:15 - Jul 16 by Herbivore

It's also the same people who go on about Muslim ray guns abusing 15 year old white girls that think a 15 year old who was basically groomed by ISIS absolutely knew exactly what she was doing and should be strung up. It's almost like their views aren't very consistent and aren't based on reason.


And it's the same circle jerk from the other side who would and still do take the p155 out of 'Muslim Ray Guns' despite their being actual Muslim Rape gangs victimising hundreds of young girls across some of our towns and cities with the autorities looking the other way for fear of being accused of being racist

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This will upset some.... on 12:38 - Jul 16 with 6305 viewsBlueBadger

This will upset some.... on 12:29 - Jul 16 by itfcjoe

And it's the same circle jerk from the other side who would and still do take the p155 out of 'Muslim Ray Guns' despite their being actual Muslim Rape gangs victimising hundreds of young girls across some of our towns and cities with the autorities looking the other way for fear of being accused of being racist


The Muslim Ray Guns crowd are only interested in vulnerable young people being exploited when they're a) white and b) being abused by non-white people.

See also: Stephen Yaxley-Lennon.

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This will upset some.... on 12:44 - Jul 16 with 6257 viewsSpruceMoose

This will upset some.... on 12:29 - Jul 16 by itfcjoe

And it's the same circle jerk from the other side who would and still do take the p155 out of 'Muslim Ray Guns' despite their being actual Muslim Rape gangs victimising hundreds of young girls across some of our towns and cities with the autorities looking the other way for fear of being accused of being racist


Sorry Joe, sounds like that both sides utter bo-lox to me.
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This will upset some.... on 12:50 - Jul 16 with 6260 viewsBasuco

The question is, will she face criminal charges for being a member of a terrorist group on her return?
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This will upset some.... on 12:51 - Jul 16 with 6243 viewsfooters

This will upset some.... on 12:50 - Jul 16 by Basuco

The question is, will she face criminal charges for being a member of a terrorist group on her return?


She'll certainly have to undergo the deradicalisation programme, which I'm guessing would take place in some form of prison.

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This will upset some.... on 12:52 - Jul 16 with 6228 viewsHerbivore

This will upset some.... on 12:29 - Jul 16 by itfcjoe

And it's the same circle jerk from the other side who would and still do take the p155 out of 'Muslim Ray Guns' despite their being actual Muslim Rape gangs victimising hundreds of young girls across some of our towns and cities with the autorities looking the other way for fear of being accused of being racist


Oh dear. This is all very Donald Trump, fine people on both sides kind of talk.
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This will upset some.... on 12:53 - Jul 16 with 6224 viewsm14_blue

This will upset some.... on 12:29 - Jul 16 by itfcjoe

And it's the same circle jerk from the other side who would and still do take the p155 out of 'Muslim Ray Guns' despite their being actual Muslim Rape gangs victimising hundreds of young girls across some of our towns and cities with the autorities looking the other way for fear of being accused of being racist


I'm not sure what your point is here?

All Herbivore was saying is that the grooming and abuse of 15 year old girls is horrendous and should be treated equally whatever their colour?
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This will upset some.... on 12:55 - Jul 16 with 6211 viewsHerbivore

This will upset some.... on 12:53 - Jul 16 by m14_blue

I'm not sure what your point is here?

All Herbivore was saying is that the grooming and abuse of 15 year old girls is horrendous and should be treated equally whatever their colour?


Indeed. Think Joe has jumped the shark on this one.

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This will upset some.... on 12:57 - Jul 16 with 6182 viewsGlasgowBlue

She's British subject and the responsibility of the British Justice system. End of.

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This will upset some.... on 12:57 - Jul 16 with 6194 viewsHerbivore

This will upset some.... on 12:50 - Jul 16 by Basuco

The question is, will she face criminal charges for being a member of a terrorist group on her return?


We will see, I expect so though. And as a British citizen she should always have been brought back and been subject to due process under our legal system.

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This will upset some.... on 12:57 - Jul 16 with 6192 viewsGeoffSentence

Oh gosh! Queue my facebook page being filled up with outraged people.

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This will upset some.... on 12:57 - Jul 16 with 6191 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

This will upset some.... on 12:15 - Jul 16 by Herbivore

It's also the same people who go on about Muslim ray guns abusing 15 year old white girls that think a 15 year old who was basically groomed by ISIS absolutely knew exactly what she was doing and should be strung up. It's almost like their views aren't very consistent and aren't based on reason.


Naive at 15, yet many on the left are proponents of lowering lowering the voting age to 16? Do people suddenly mature on their 16th birthday?
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This will upset some.... on 13:01 - Jul 16 with 6168 viewsHerbivore

This will upset some.... on 12:57 - Jul 16 by GlasgowBlue

She's British subject and the responsibility of the British Justice system. End of.


Indeed. It is and always has been perfectly clear. It's a shame so much time, energy and money has been wasted on political grandstanding.

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This will upset some.... on 13:01 - Jul 16 with 6160 viewsHerbivore

This will upset some.... on 12:57 - Jul 16 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Naive at 15, yet many on the left are proponents of lowering lowering the voting age to 16? Do people suddenly mature on their 16th birthday?


This is some excellent whataboutery. Anything to add to the actual debate?

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This will upset some.... on 13:03 - Jul 16 with 6152 viewsLankHenners

This will upset some.... on 12:57 - Jul 16 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Naive at 15, yet many on the left are proponents of lowering lowering the voting age to 16? Do people suddenly mature on their 16th birthday?


Ah, this non-comparable argument again.

A 15 year old being groomed by ISIS isn’t the same as wanting younger people to have more of a day in issues that affect them.

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.
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This will upset some.... on 13:07 - Jul 16 with 6124 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

This will upset some.... on 13:01 - Jul 16 by Herbivore

This is some excellent whataboutery. Anything to add to the actual debate?


Not particularly, you have your opinion, and I have mine.
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This will upset some.... on 13:11 - Jul 16 with 6079 viewsSpruceMoose

This will upset some.... on 13:07 - Jul 16 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Not particularly, you have your opinion, and I have mine.


Your opinion stinks though.

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