| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem 10:49 - Mar 17 with 4378 views | Bluefish |
Earlier in the season when the salary cap was there not going up this season would have been an absolute disaster for the future of this club.
Since the cap has gone it is now a very different prospect, if we go up we will spend a season trying desperately to build a team to survive. Likely to be journeymen and loans.
If we don't go up we have a full season still being a massive club at this level to try and build something. Blood youngsters and create a wave of positivity about the place.
Considering we have a new manager that has a history of putting together teams but he has come in so late, perhaps that is a better result in the long run |  |
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| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 11:21 - Mar 17 with 3778 views | You_Bloo_Right |
Not only isn't it necessarily a problem, not going up is almost an essential.
So will Cook be able to build that team with a "clear out" summer window and, say, maybe 2 or 3 in in January?
Will Evans fund the necessary expenditure and hand over the decision making to the manager? if not the rebuild is quite probably scuppered before it really starts.
If it takes another summer window will this place spontaneously combust? |  |
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| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 11:22 - Mar 17 with 3771 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 11:21 - Mar 17 by You_Bloo_Right |
Not only isn't it necessarily a problem, not going up is almost an essential.
So will Cook be able to build that team with a "clear out" summer window and, say, maybe 2 or 3 in in January?
Will Evans fund the necessary expenditure and hand over the decision making to the manager? if not the rebuild is quite probably scuppered before it really starts.
If it takes another summer window will this place spontaneously combust? |
I fear if we go up this year, we'll have Evans forever and will exist as a L1 Yo-Yo club the whole time. |  |
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| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 11:26 - Mar 17 with 3753 views | Parsley |
I'm sure there'll be some kind of salary cap replacement in the summer whatever form that takes. It's going to be easier to rebuild on a Championship budget and lots of free agents will be available. Certainly wouldn't be easy but I'd definitely take promotion if I had the choice. |  | | |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 11:39 - Mar 17 with 3718 views | Pique |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 11:26 - Mar 17 by Parsley |
I'm sure there'll be some kind of salary cap replacement in the summer whatever form that takes. It's going to be easier to rebuild on a Championship budget and lots of free agents will be available. Certainly wouldn't be easy but I'd definitely take promotion if I had the choice. |
‘A Championship budget’
Good one! |  | | |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 11:42 - Mar 17 with 3706 views | Kieran_Knows |
I would call it an extended pre-season ... Cook getting to know his squad, and right now, he'll know full well half (if not more) aren't up to it.
If we go up, great, if we don't, then no dramas either.
I imagine Cook knows already that he's got a big job on his hands, and a big rebuild to go to boot. |  |
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| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 11:50 - Mar 17 with 3677 views | J2BLUE |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 11:42 - Mar 17 by Kieran_Knows |
I would call it an extended pre-season ... Cook getting to know his squad, and right now, he'll know full well half (if not more) aren't up to it.
If we go up, great, if we don't, then no dramas either.
I imagine Cook knows already that he's got a big job on his hands, and a big rebuild to go to boot. |
We can't afford to turn down chances to go up. If we can sneak in the play offs then great. We all think we can't win them and we're probably right but look at Wycombe. Surprises happen.
We can't afford to write off the season.
The only way missing out on promotion might be a blessing in disguise is if it puts the takeover back on track. |  |
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| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 11:52 - Mar 17 with 3670 views | textbackup |
Not going up isn't necessarily a problem - however the vast majority of our thick fans wont be able to give the manager a chance to re-build. |  |
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| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 11:56 - Mar 17 with 3651 views | Stewart27 |
Agree with this and most of this thread.
We just need to blank out the past 2 seasons and will hopefully give Cook time to build something long term.
Plus not going up May mean a takeover and finally solve THE problem at the club.
There’s a lot of work to be done in the summer by getting rid of some of the pathetic losers in our squad. |  | | |
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| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 11:56 - Mar 17 with 3653 views | haynes_toe1 |
Wow. This has the hallmarks of the "League one will be fun" "New grounds" and "better football without Mick" all over it. | | | |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 12:08 - Mar 17 with 3608 views | clive_baker |
It’s not. The biggest issue is what does the mid to long term look like. Cook wanted a project and he’s got one, I like the cut of his jib and think he can take us forward. I just hope the owner (whoever that might be) gives him the tools to do his job.
All we can do as fans is support him and the team. It’s not going to happen overnight, this season is a bit of a free hit and the work properly starts over the summer. |  |
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| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 12:09 - Mar 17 with 3599 views | clive_baker |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 11:56 - Mar 17 by haynes_toe1 |
Wow. This has the hallmarks of the "League one will be fun" "New grounds" and "better football without Mick" all over it. |
And you have all the hallmarks of a norwich supporting troll who has been outed on here long ago so please run along. | |
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| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 12:10 - Mar 17 with 3594 views | Bluefish |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 11:56 - Mar 17 by haynes_toe1 |
Wow. This has the hallmarks of the "League one will be fun" "New grounds" and "better football without Mick" all over it. |
Not getting promoted is very different to accepting relegation | |
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| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 12:12 - Mar 17 with 3588 views | BlueNomad |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 11:56 - Mar 17 by haynes_toe1 |
Wow. This has the hallmarks of the "League one will be fun" "New grounds" and "better football without Mick" all over it. |
No it isn't. It is realism. Going up into the most ruthless league of all whilst trying to rebuild would not be a fun ride. Hurst thought he could do it.
I know its a tough one - we would all celebrate promotion at the time but the following cold dose of reality would be horrendous, and relegation back to L1 would certainly be catastrophic. |  | | |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 12:14 - Mar 17 with 3577 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 11:50 - Mar 17 by J2BLUE |
We can't afford to turn down chances to go up. If we can sneak in the play offs then great. We all think we can't win them and we're probably right but look at Wycombe. Surprises happen.
We can't afford to write off the season.
The only way missing out on promotion might be a blessing in disguise is if it puts the takeover back on track. |
Of course we need to go up, and of course I wouldn't pass that opportunity up. But do these players have the b*llocks for it? Even if we did somehow manage to sneak in?
I doubt it personally. Rebuild, with a squad full of players with a)quality, b)organisation and c)discipline about them and give it a real good go next season.
I do not trust this current crop of players to get us up. | |
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| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 12:16 - Mar 17 with 3572 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 11:52 - Mar 17 by textbackup |
Not going up isn't necessarily a problem - however the vast majority of our thick fans wont be able to give the manager a chance to re-build. |
They aren't all thick, its just it appears most of them appear to post on here! |  |
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| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 12:21 - Mar 17 with 3546 views | textbackup |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 12:16 - Mar 17 by Wallingford_Boy |
They aren't all thick, its just it appears most of them appear to post on here! |
if we were in the ground now, even under a new manager whos been here 5mins, with probably 5/6 days of coaching under his belt, there would be boos aimed at him | |
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| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 12:23 - Mar 17 with 3533 views | TieDyedIn95 |
Do you honestly think Evans is going to keep spending what he is for failure in the third division though? He could literally half the wage budget and still have a club able finishing between 7th and 11th in this league. Not going up is a disaster for this club, and I am not confident anyone can suddenly come in and wave a wand to change the downward spiral we are in under Evans here. The last two seasons have been pathetic from the club and the players. I see Cook is saying there's more pressure on our players because we're Ipswich Town, that's nonsense, there should be more pressure on the players because we're paying them silly money for what they offer and they should be playing to keep their jobs and that high wage. The fact since the new manager arrived they haven't even remotely reacted to it shows you how deep rooted failure is at this club and it will upset you to learn this, but that was never Lamberts fault or doing.
Every season we stay in this league is a step closer to League Two under Evans. I stand by that. |  |
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| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 12:24 - Mar 17 with 3526 views | J2BLUE |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 12:14 - Mar 17 by Kieran_Knows |
Of course we need to go up, and of course I wouldn't pass that opportunity up. But do these players have the b*llocks for it? Even if we did somehow manage to sneak in?
I doubt it personally. Rebuild, with a squad full of players with a)quality, b)organisation and c)discipline about them and give it a real good go next season.
I do not trust this current crop of players to get us up. |
No they probably don't. How does that change anything though? We still have to go for it. | |
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| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 12:27 - Mar 17 with 3517 views | Swansea_Blue |
It's certainly less of an issue than it would have been with the salary cap (agreed - that would have been a disaster).
I worry about the impact of not going up on general morale (inside the club and fans). Clearly the expectation was that Cook could make the difference, but so far (early days) hasn't. If we go on a Hurst-esque run between now and the end of the season, where does that leave us? Hopefully people won't start turning and will remember that he needs at least one window as an absolute minimum to try and turn things around.
it was a really odd time to bring him in, especially since we knew Lamberts time was up for at least a couple of months previously. He should have come in earlier when there was still some of the Jan window left. Although of course we don't know the role of the possible takeover in all of this and whether his arrival is linked to that. If not, Evans was way too slow. |  |
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| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 12:44 - Mar 17 with 3488 views | textbackup |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 12:27 - Mar 17 by Swansea_Blue |
It's certainly less of an issue than it would have been with the salary cap (agreed - that would have been a disaster).
I worry about the impact of not going up on general morale (inside the club and fans). Clearly the expectation was that Cook could make the difference, but so far (early days) hasn't. If we go on a Hurst-esque run between now and the end of the season, where does that leave us? Hopefully people won't start turning and will remember that he needs at least one window as an absolute minimum to try and turn things around.
it was a really odd time to bring him in, especially since we knew Lamberts time was up for at least a couple of months previously. He should have come in earlier when there was still some of the Jan window left. Although of course we don't know the role of the possible takeover in all of this and whether his arrival is linked to that. If not, Evans was way too slow. |
Ipswich town is that run down old house that been purchased as a familys forever home.
its going to take time to get it looking good, and it wont be over night. but slowly changes will be made and it'll be a decent looking house | |
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| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 13:17 - Mar 17 with 3440 views | haynes_toe1 |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 12:10 - Mar 17 by Bluefish |
Not getting promoted is very different to accepting relegation |
Not really when ultimately we're talking about the third division in both scenarios. | | | |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 15:20 - Mar 17 with 3363 views | Coastalblue |
This is not aimed at Cook, and in time I'm hopeful he'll get things right here but wwe can't suddenly go back to the 'free hit' scenario with new managers.
I think the chances of Cook getting us in the playoffs let alone up are miniscule, but you'd like to see him having an affect by the end of the season, we can all see what the issues are.
Next season he has to be succesful, if he's as good as people say then he needs to be competing for the top two with what's available here compared to the rest of this league. |  |
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| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 15:58 - Mar 17 with 3170 views | Mookamoo |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 15:20 - Mar 17 by Coastalblue |
This is not aimed at Cook, and in time I'm hopeful he'll get things right here but wwe can't suddenly go back to the 'free hit' scenario with new managers.
I think the chances of Cook getting us in the playoffs let alone up are miniscule, but you'd like to see him having an affect by the end of the season, we can all see what the issues are.
Next season he has to be succesful, if he's as good as people say then he needs to be competing for the top two with what's available here compared to the rest of this league. |
It'll be nice to be in with a shout for the rest of season so Cook can see what fight those players have. Which ones are willing to learn and do as what they are told when they get a game. |  | | |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 17:22 - Mar 17 with 2926 views | istanblue |
Sounds weirdly familiar. Oh yeah, when Lambert came in and people were happy we got relegated so we could ''rebuild'' lol. |  | | |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 19:43 - Mar 17 with 2835 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Not going up isn't necessarily a problem on 17:22 - Mar 17 by istanblue |
Sounds weirdly familiar. Oh yeah, when Lambert came in and people were happy we got relegated so we could ''rebuild'' lol. |
Yes and what we failed to do then was .... rebuild.
The squad is like an aging family pet. Sentiment makes one keep it alive when the humane thing to do is have it put out of its misery.
Of course our other issue is that Evans is unlikely to foot the vet's bill. | |
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