| Nightlife down the pan? 09:38 - Jun 27 with 4102 views | bluelagos |
Friday evening was out in Chelmsford, pretty dead tbh. Couple of bars near the station were well down on normal levels.
Some of it may be the propsect of having to sit down, no mixing/meeting/chatting etc. Also no nightclubs to go onto.
But had expected it to be lively and it was anything but. What's it like elsewhere?
Genuinely thinking the knock on from the lockdowns on hospitality will see closures if people remain cautious / reluctant to get out and about... |  |
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| Nightlife down the pan? on 10:36 - Jun 27 with 3914 views | BloomBlue |
Nightlife will become like shopping, ie lots of shops shut and people doing online shopping, soon that will be the same with pubs/clubs, people ordering online and socialising at home.
Once you start to see places like McDonald's, Starbucks doing well out of people ordering online rather than people going to get that type of food/drink the next natural step in the process will be pubs. It will take time but people never expected banks to close down but banks in the high street are disappearing quicker than you can type it. |  | | |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 11:06 - Jun 27 with 3842 views | rgp1 |
Lots on industries on their arse thanks to overkill on government policy. But yes night life has been the sacrificial lamb.
I'm more concerned about the Argentina style hyper inflation that's heading our way . |  | | |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 12:06 - Jun 27 with 3737 views | Coastalblue |
Lots of people won't have been paid yet this month, noticed this in London, start of the month it was bedlam, the last week has turned much quieter. I expect next week will pick up again. |  |
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| Nightlife down the pan? on 12:10 - Jun 27 with 3720 views | footers |
Can't say I've noticed too much of a difference really. That being said I do tend to drink in places that only two men and a dog go to anyway. There was a lot of rowdiness and a couple of fights in the local after the last England game though. Those types are, thankfully, just visiting Arsenal/Spurs fans who like to kick sh1t out of each other for fun.
Will probably head over there for one of the games later though. Hopefully no rowdy Belgians in town. |  |
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| Nightlife down the pan? on 12:12 - Jun 27 with 3705 views | wkj |
The village bowling green was utter scenes last week. Old Terry Runiccles was shooting wide all night, whilst Freda was giving Harold a quick tug whilst spotting the jack. Life is back to full swing here. [Post edited 27 Jun 2021 12:15]
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| Nightlife down the pan? on 12:14 - Jun 27 with 3703 views | bluelagos |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 12:06 - Jun 27 by Coastalblue |
Lots of people won't have been paid yet this month, noticed this in London, start of the month it was bedlam, the last week has turned much quieter. I expect next week will pick up again. |
Guess the concern is what has happened to the barber I spoke to. 2 weeks of huge queues and then once it calmed down, he is about 30% down on normal trade. (He said people are used to wife cutting their hair and/or using clippers)
Similar with pubs no doubt - lots of pent up demand, but if the settled point is down 25-50% - can see loads going out of business. Am sure demand will return, but if it takes another year, how many will go bust in the meantime? | |
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| Nightlife down the pan? on 12:40 - Jun 27 with 3648 views | stonojnr |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 12:06 - Jun 27 by Coastalblue |
Lots of people won't have been paid yet this month, noticed this in London, start of the month it was bedlam, the last week has turned much quieter. I expect next week will pick up again. |
thats not the case, alot of people get paid last Friday of the month, that was the 25th.
I know pubs in London that would normally expect to be reasonably full, even with covid restrictions, are reporting they are next to empty at the weekends only serving 2 or 3 customers, which isnt remotely paying their bills let alone profitable, and I think you are going to see alot of pubs close their doors for good as a result. | | | |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 13:37 - Jun 27 with 3544 views | N2_Blue |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 12:40 - Jun 27 by stonojnr |
thats not the case, alot of people get paid last Friday of the month, that was the 25th.
I know pubs in London that would normally expect to be reasonably full, even with covid restrictions, are reporting they are next to empty at the weekends only serving 2 or 3 customers, which isnt remotely paying their bills let alone profitable, and I think you are going to see alot of pubs close their doors for good as a result. |
I used to go to the pub around 6 times a month for drinks with friends.
Since COVID i haven't been once
As soon as all restrictions have gone and events are back on it will return. I'm missing ad-hoc drinks down the pub, but can't be done with the whole booking table, mask wearing.
It may not seem a big thing, but when the final restrictions are gone I think far more people will start going out again. Sure some pubs and restaurants may have to close due to 18 months of diminished trade but pubs will get going again, but it may take until next year and the volume may never be the same as pre-pandemic levels.
Also many people have not returned to work in offices. When some do that will boost those that go for after work drinks etc. |  |
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| Nightlife down the pan? on 14:58 - Jun 27 with 3434 views | noggin |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 11:06 - Jun 27 by rgp1 |
Lots on industries on their arse thanks to overkill on government policy. But yes night life has been the sacrificial lamb.
I'm more concerned about the Argentina style hyper inflation that's heading our way . |
"I'm more concerned about the Argentina style hyper inflation that's heading our way ."
Why do you believe that will happen? |  |
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| Nightlife down the pan? on 15:13 - Jun 27 with 3397 views | rgp1 |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 14:58 - Jun 27 by noggin |
"I'm more concerned about the Argentina style hyper inflation that's heading our way ."
Why do you believe that will happen? |
Rightly or wrongly depending on your point of view. If you inject billions into the economy at some point it has to have an effect. We are already seeing prices rise and shortages. I believe Argentina defaulted on its debts around 20 years ago and is still suffering the effects. And come September how do we continue to fund 5 million people who no longer have a job. | | | |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 15:36 - Jun 27 with 3330 views | footers |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 15:13 - Jun 27 by rgp1 |
Rightly or wrongly depending on your point of view. If you inject billions into the economy at some point it has to have an effect. We are already seeing prices rise and shortages. I believe Argentina defaulted on its debts around 20 years ago and is still suffering the effects. And come September how do we continue to fund 5 million people who no longer have a job. |
A lot of those price rises and shortages are Brexit-related, not due to covid though. | |
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| Nightlife down the pan? on 15:40 - Jun 27 with 3313 views | noggin |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 15:36 - Jun 27 by footers |
A lot of those price rises and shortages are Brexit-related, not due to covid though. |
Project fear has become project oh f**k! | |
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| Nightlife down the pan? on 15:53 - Jun 27 with 3283 views | rgp1 |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 15:40 - Jun 27 by noggin |
Project fear has become project oh f**k! |
Either way and theres no point in arguing about things that have gone, we could be in for a bumpy ride. If borrowing continues to carry on the way it is the BOE will have no alternative but to increase rates. | | | |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 16:20 - Jun 27 with 3226 views | bluelagos |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 15:53 - Jun 27 by rgp1 |
Either way and theres no point in arguing about things that have gone, we could be in for a bumpy ride. If borrowing continues to carry on the way it is the BOE will have no alternative but to increase rates. |
No argument the impact of CV and Brexit will be causing us difficulties moving ahead. But Argentinian levels of hyper inflation are a whole new level. Far more likely we plod along whilst the Europeans suck up investment that would have come our way as more international businesses opt for European mainland operations.
In five years, I expect our average earnings, GDP, growth etc. will lag those of France and Germany. But I dont see us reaching the levels of default that happened in Argentina. | |
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| Nightlife down the pan? on 16:27 - Jun 27 with 3213 views | StokieBlue |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 15:13 - Jun 27 by rgp1 |
Rightly or wrongly depending on your point of view. If you inject billions into the economy at some point it has to have an effect. We are already seeing prices rise and shortages. I believe Argentina defaulted on its debts around 20 years ago and is still suffering the effects. And come September how do we continue to fund 5 million people who no longer have a job. |
The Argentinian default is not a comparable situation.
They issued debt in USD, a currency they don't control and thus had no fiscal mechanisms with which to control the debt. It's an awful idea to issue debt in a currency you don't have some form of control over.
Argentina have actually defaulted twice in the last 20 years so someone was willing to lend them money again after the first default.
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| Nightlife down the pan? on 16:32 - Jun 27 with 3198 views | StokieBlue |
I would think there are a number of factors causing this although in London most places seem pretty busy, especially those with outside space. Restaurants seem especially busy.
- A lot of younger people are still getting their jabs and perhaps they are being cautious.
- Places are still not allowed to have full capacity indoors so probably less walk-ins.
- People are possibly unsure about their future cashflows at the moment.
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| Nightlife down the pan? on 16:35 - Jun 27 with 3188 views | giant_stow |
Not been out much but in the last week broke that and went out twice and both were busy. First was a working men's club which was packed with biddies for the bingo. Second was the total opposite: young person's trendy bar down elephant, but also packed. Maybe Chelmsford is struggling more for some reason? |  |
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| Nightlife down the pan? on 16:37 - Jun 27 with 3177 views | XYZ |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 15:53 - Jun 27 by rgp1 |
Either way and theres no point in arguing about things that have gone, we could be in for a bumpy ride. If borrowing continues to carry on the way it is the BOE will have no alternative but to increase rates. |
How do you ever learn from mistakes if there's no point in arguing about "things that have gone" ?
They're printing most of the money they're spending not borrowing it. | | | |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 16:52 - Jun 27 with 3140 views | JakeITFC |
I’ve been out in various places in the last 6 weeks or so, most recently Friday in Shoreditch and it’s been fine really - obviously bookings needed most places but most seem to be at capacity.
As an aside, my friend running a pub tells me that for the England games they have to hire double the amount of staff to serve half as many people as they would have done for the last World Cup, so I’m sure places are keen for table service to not be needed any more. [Post edited 27 Jun 2021 17:13]
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| Nightlife down the pan? on 17:12 - Jun 27 with 3099 views | chicoazul |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 16:37 - Jun 27 by XYZ |
How do you ever learn from mistakes if there's no point in arguing about "things that have gone" ?
They're printing most of the money they're spending not borrowing it. |
If your last sentence is true- and I have no idea if it is - surely inflation is inevitable. |  |
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| Nightlife down the pan? on 20:22 - Jun 27 with 2868 views | peterleeblue |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 16:35 - Jun 27 by giant_stow |
Not been out much but in the last week broke that and went out twice and both were busy. First was a working men's club which was packed with biddies for the bingo. Second was the total opposite: young person's trendy bar down elephant, but also packed. Maybe Chelmsford is struggling more for some reason? |
I am in the pub trade. Another angle is the fear of being contacted by T and T.
Vaccines mean people are less concerned about Covid but more being forced to self isolate for 10 days.
Pubs are one of the few places still taking details because they fear for licensing authority fines or closures owing to non adherence. |  | | |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 21:39 - Jun 27 with 2755 views | witchdoctor |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 15:13 - Jun 27 by rgp1 |
Rightly or wrongly depending on your point of view. If you inject billions into the economy at some point it has to have an effect. We are already seeing prices rise and shortages. I believe Argentina defaulted on its debts around 20 years ago and is still suffering the effects. And come September how do we continue to fund 5 million people who no longer have a job. |
shortages?…of what? |  | | |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 21:44 - Jun 27 with 2745 views | vapour_trail |
Been in Brighton over the weekend. Was really busy everywhere yesterday, busiest I’ve seen anywhere since all this sh1t started.
It was brilliant being somewhere with lots of people just enjoying themselves again. |  |
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| Nightlife down the pan? on 00:11 - Jun 28 with 2604 views | rgp1 |
| Nightlife down the pan? on 21:39 - Jun 27 by witchdoctor |
shortages?…of what? |
Building materials for a start. | | | |
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