| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:11 - Sep 3 with 2944 views | chrismakin |
Surprising really
We've been told he's a rubbish man manager
Universally not popular with ex players
Throws his weight around
Etc etc |  |
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| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:21 - Sep 3 with 2926 views | Illinoisblue |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:11 - Sep 3 by chrismakin |
Surprising really
We've been told he's a rubbish man manager
Universally not popular with ex players
Throws his weight around
Etc etc |
Have you been told that? By whom? |  |
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| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:26 - Sep 3 with 2893 views | chrismakin |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:21 - Sep 3 by Illinoisblue |
Have you been told that? By whom? |
From what I've personally been told.. far far from it
From what we lead to believe on here... Well I can't bring up said poster and the others as it upsets people. But perhaps at some point some posters may start looking at the truth rather than made up nonsense. [Post edited 3 Sep 2021 22:36]
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| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:34 - Sep 3 with 2869 views | Coastalblue |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:11 - Sep 3 by chrismakin |
Surprising really
We've been told he's a rubbish man manager
Universally not popular with ex players
Throws his weight around
Etc etc |
I would think you'd hear both views about pretty much any manager, depending upon the player and how they fared under them.
Manager likes you and fancies you as a player then the chances are you're going to say nice things further down the line, but a team mate who was booted to the bench regularly might say different.
I like Cook and think and hope he'll do well here, but this sort of stuff is just media fluff isn't it?
Look at the the stuff you can read about RK, from both sides of the argument. |  |
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| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:34 - Sep 3 with 2879 views | itfcjoe |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:21 - Sep 3 by Illinoisblue |
Have you been told that? By whom? |
Let me guess, the board blowhard is spouting off about me again?
I have him on ignore, but can guarantee he has yet again claimed i said he was universally unpopular, when he was explained to by half a dozen posters in the thread that that wasn’t what I said and that ‘not universally popular’ does not mean ‘universally not popular’ |  |
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| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:36 - Sep 3 with 2852 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:34 - Sep 3 by itfcjoe |
Let me guess, the board blowhard is spouting off about me again?
I have him on ignore, but can guarantee he has yet again claimed i said he was universally unpopular, when he was explained to by half a dozen posters in the thread that that wasn’t what I said and that ‘not universally popular’ does not mean ‘universally not popular’ |
Trying to play his slant on things you have said and being put right - not that he will listen.
I wouldn't worry about anything he says, Joe. |  |
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| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:39 - Sep 3 with 2831 views | Coastalblue |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:34 - Sep 3 by itfcjoe |
Let me guess, the board blowhard is spouting off about me again?
I have him on ignore, but can guarantee he has yet again claimed i said he was universally unpopular, when he was explained to by half a dozen posters in the thread that that wasn’t what I said and that ‘not universally popular’ does not mean ‘universally not popular’ |
Actually he hasn't this time to be fair, he's declined to say it whilst leaving us in no doubt what was intended. | |
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| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:41 - Sep 3 with 2804 views | chrismakin |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:36 - Sep 3 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Trying to play his slant on things you have said and being put right - not that he will listen.
I wouldn't worry about anything he says, Joe. |
Listen to what, he can spin it anyway he likes it Is the same.
No.different to when he told PC to leave. But he will deny that too. Not forgetting the gym situation which does still really annoy me as was complete fabrication and I feel strongly against the fact he's not apologised for it.
Anyway it's not just Joe it's others anyway being proved wrong. Time and time again but they hide away rather than owning up to it. [Post edited 3 Sep 2021 22:52]
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| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:43 - Sep 3 with 2783 views | chrismakin |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:34 - Sep 3 by Coastalblue |
I would think you'd hear both views about pretty much any manager, depending upon the player and how they fared under them.
Manager likes you and fancies you as a player then the chances are you're going to say nice things further down the line, but a team mate who was booted to the bench regularly might say different.
I like Cook and think and hope he'll do well here, but this sort of stuff is just media fluff isn't it?
Look at the the stuff you can read about RK, from both sides of the argument. |
Not really
We've heard from ex players. Ex coaches. Current coaches. All have said the same about PC as a person and as a manager and his approach.
People always say to me recognise when I'm wrong etc.
But you never see these posters actually admit they were and half the stuff they posted was their own opinion rather than actual information. | |
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| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 23:18 - Sep 3 with 2635 views | _sanctimoanious_ |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:34 - Sep 3 by itfcjoe |
Let me guess, the board blowhard is spouting off about me again?
I have him on ignore, but can guarantee he has yet again claimed i said he was universally unpopular, when he was explained to by half a dozen posters in the thread that that wasn’t what I said and that ‘not universally popular’ does not mean ‘universally not popular’ |
Not wishing to stoke any fires but not one single manager in the history of the universe in any walk of life is 'universally popular' so not sure what the point being made was? Anything can be spun to support any single persons agenda.
The players even lord Mick bombed from his squads will think he's a bellend whilst those he trusted will think he the king of all men. All managers want to build a brotherhood of warriors they can trust don't they? [Post edited 3 Sep 2021 23:21]
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| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 23:29 - Sep 3 with 2573 views | Churchman |
You may well be right and anyone who really follows this club hopes he is. We’ve waited long enough.
Cook clearly attracts loyalty from his players and coaching staff and he has done well elsewhere. That’s all good, but it’s up to him to deliver here now. He has his players so fingers crossed that he can. |  | | |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 23:36 - Sep 3 with 2555 views | pointofblue |
We have a manager who, with the support of the chief exec, has put together an excellent squad. We have to see what happens on the pitch before we can be sure he's the right one. |  |
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| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 07:29 - Sep 4 with 2195 views | itfcjoe |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 23:18 - Sep 3 by _sanctimoanious_ |
Not wishing to stoke any fires but not one single manager in the history of the universe in any walk of life is 'universally popular' so not sure what the point being made was? Anything can be spun to support any single persons agenda.
The players even lord Mick bombed from his squads will think he's a bellend whilst those he trusted will think he the king of all men. All managers want to build a brotherhood of warriors they can trust don't they? [Post edited 3 Sep 2021 23:21]
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I don’t disagree, just before Cook was appointed I was speaking to a friend who had a nephew play under him at Pompey, I was saying how Cook is available and would be a great appointment and she said how he was a nightmare….didn’t speak to players after games and a load including her nephew couldn’t stick him.
And just for balance her nephew played every game, was a star player there and not someone you’d have expected not to get on with him - which had lead me to say he wasn’t universally popular. But that’s a massive way from saying he is universally unpopular | |
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| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 07:45 - Sep 4 with 2152 views | Churchman |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 07:29 - Sep 4 by itfcjoe |
I don’t disagree, just before Cook was appointed I was speaking to a friend who had a nephew play under him at Pompey, I was saying how Cook is available and would be a great appointment and she said how he was a nightmare….didn’t speak to players after games and a load including her nephew couldn’t stick him.
And just for balance her nephew played every game, was a star player there and not someone you’d have expected not to get on with him - which had lead me to say he wasn’t universally popular. But that’s a massive way from saying he is universally unpopular |
I’ve no idea how it works in football, but for me, in the workplace I always thought that the crucial thing was to be respected. It’s nice if you are liked of course, but personally I never bothered or thought too much about that. Life isn’t a popularity contest. Respect and trust were the key things. Hard won, easily lost. | | | |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 07:53 - Sep 4 with 2113 views | chrismakin |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 07:29 - Sep 4 by itfcjoe |
I don’t disagree, just before Cook was appointed I was speaking to a friend who had a nephew play under him at Pompey, I was saying how Cook is available and would be a great appointment and she said how he was a nightmare….didn’t speak to players after games and a load including her nephew couldn’t stick him.
And just for balance her nephew played every game, was a star player there and not someone you’d have expected not to get on with him - which had lead me to say he wasn’t universally popular. But that’s a massive way from saying he is universally unpopular |
Point of order here... in my post above I said universally not popular. Not universally unpopular.
Anyways jepfest Today. Enjoy your day all. [Post edited 4 Sep 2021 7:55]
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| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 07:56 - Sep 4 with 2102 views | WD19 |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:36 - Sep 3 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Trying to play his slant on things you have said and being put right - not that he will listen.
I wouldn't worry about anything he says, Joe. |
That comment he made about Joe’s personal hygiene though…….seemed a bit unnecessary. |  | | |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 08:02 - Sep 4 with 2070 views | itfcjoe |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 07:45 - Sep 4 by Churchman |
I’ve no idea how it works in football, but for me, in the workplace I always thought that the crucial thing was to be respected. It’s nice if you are liked of course, but personally I never bothered or thought too much about that. Life isn’t a popularity contest. Respect and trust were the key things. Hard won, easily lost. |
This was what surprised me re the conversation, that he didn’t seem to and if you’d have looked at how much he had played under him you’d have assumed he was one of his key generals.
I think there is an element of football players where even if they don’t like a manager they sometimes prefer to go with what they know - you see that by players constantly signing for managers like Steve Evans and Graham Westley, and even Roy Keane here. Not that I’m anyway saying that is why those have signed here have done so as sure they have a great respect for Cook to have dropped down | |
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| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 08:58 - Sep 4 with 1921 views | Churchman |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 08:02 - Sep 4 by itfcjoe |
This was what surprised me re the conversation, that he didn’t seem to and if you’d have looked at how much he had played under him you’d have assumed he was one of his key generals.
I think there is an element of football players where even if they don’t like a manager they sometimes prefer to go with what they know - you see that by players constantly signing for managers like Steve Evans and Graham Westley, and even Roy Keane here. Not that I’m anyway saying that is why those have signed here have done so as sure they have a great respect for Cook to have dropped down |
I’m sure that’s the case. It’s human nature. Everyone is resistant to change, which is one of the reasons why doing something complex like rebuilding a football club is so hard. I can understand why some would gravitate towards ‘the devil you know’ as opposed to the unknown.
I suspect there will be some players that like the bloke, some that don’t, some that respect him others that don’t give a hoot, some will see an opportunity to further their careers in the longer term etc etc. The full mixture.
The trick is moulding them into something better than the sum of the parts. I happen to think Cook has made it harder for himself than he might have but regardless, here’s hoping he gets it right. | | | |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 09:08 - Sep 4 with 1877 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:11 - Sep 3 by chrismakin |
Surprising really
We've been told he's a rubbish man manager
Universally not popular with ex players
Throws his weight around
Etc etc |
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| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 09:10 - Sep 4 with 1867 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
I'm not fussed about positive interviews, we've had plenty of those over the last 20 years.
I want to see results.
Hopefully Morsy and Celina can help us deliver some wins. | |
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| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 10:16 - Sep 4 with 1696 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:34 - Sep 3 by itfcjoe |
Let me guess, the board blowhard is spouting off about me again?
I have him on ignore, but can guarantee he has yet again claimed i said he was universally unpopular, when he was explained to by half a dozen posters in the thread that that wasn’t what I said and that ‘not universally popular’ does not mean ‘universally not popular’ |
Yep it was Paul Cooks TWTD minder stirring it again.
So tedious |  | | |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 10:32 - Sep 4 with 1657 views | chrismakin |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 10:16 - Sep 4 by reusersfreekicks |
Yep it was Paul Cooks TWTD minder stirring it again.
So tedious |
Stirring lol I didn't start the thread:) | |
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| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 10:51 - Sep 4 with 1576 views | pointofblue |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 10:32 - Sep 4 by chrismakin |
Stirring lol I didn't start the thread:) |
But the OP didn’t make a dig another poster. | |
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| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 13:45 - Sep 4 with 1355 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
He needs to win games though. |  |
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| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 14:25 - Sep 4 with 1317 views | solemio |
| Morsy’s words illustrate …. on 22:41 - Sep 3 by chrismakin |
Listen to what, he can spin it anyway he likes it Is the same.
No.different to when he told PC to leave. But he will deny that too. Not forgetting the gym situation which does still really annoy me as was complete fabrication and I feel strongly against the fact he's not apologised for it.
Anyway it's not just Joe it's others anyway being proved wrong. Time and time again but they hide away rather than owning up to it. [Post edited 3 Sep 2021 22:52]
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Okay, I admit it. I said that Kevin Beattie would never be strong enough to take over from Derek Jefferson. | | | |
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