| Free school meals hypocrisy 09:21 - Jun 16 with 5854 views | tractordownsouth |
Government: We want schools to reopen before it's safe because being in school helps disadvantaged kids
Also the Government: Won't fund school meals for disadvantaged kids in the summer holiday
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| Free school meals hypocrisy on 09:32 - Jun 16 with 3494 views | StokieBlue |
There was a thread yesterday saying it was unreasonable to expect teachers to work over the summer holidays as they had been doing their jobs during the lockdown period already.
How does that argument not apply to the cooks in the schools as well?
Obviously it would be great if disadvantaged kids got school meals over the holidays but interested to know why the perception of what is acceptable is different for teachers and cooks within the same establishments.
SB
Edit: Not really sure what I was thinking this morning, I know it's vouchers at the moment. [Post edited 16 Jun 2020 21:43]
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| You can't really call them free "school" meals..... on 09:47 - Jun 16 with 3466 views | Bloots |
…...if:
1. The Schools are closed due to C19 concerns
2. The meals are provided during the period the school would normally be closed
They are just free meals.
Hyprocrisy works for all sides unfortunately.
A number of parents/teachers/unions don't want the kids back in schools, but they do want the schools to feed some of the kids.
It's a total minefield. |  |
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| Free school meals hypocrisy on 09:53 - Jun 16 with 3446 views | CBBlue |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 09:32 - Jun 16 by StokieBlue |
There was a thread yesterday saying it was unreasonable to expect teachers to work over the summer holidays as they had been doing their jobs during the lockdown period already.
How does that argument not apply to the cooks in the schools as well?
Obviously it would be great if disadvantaged kids got school meals over the holidays but interested to know why the perception of what is acceptable is different for teachers and cooks within the same establishments.
SB
Edit: Not really sure what I was thinking this morning, I know it's vouchers at the moment. [Post edited 16 Jun 2020 21:43]
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Don't think they're expecting the schools to cook the meals, currently those kids not in school that are eligible for free meals around here get a voucher, believe it's a £15 tesco voucher here.
As a side, the school cook at my child's school isn't working, the meal options for those kids in school are home packed lunch or a cold school dinner (aka packed lunch) prepared at a hub and bused in. |  |
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| £15 should be enugh for..... on 09:55 - Jun 16 with 3439 views | Bloots |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 09:53 - Jun 16 by CBBlue |
Don't think they're expecting the schools to cook the meals, currently those kids not in school that are eligible for free meals around here get a voucher, believe it's a £15 tesco voucher here.
As a side, the school cook at my child's school isn't working, the meal options for those kids in school are home packed lunch or a cold school dinner (aka packed lunch) prepared at a hub and bused in. |
….20 Lambert & Butler and 4 cans of fruity cider. | |
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| Free school meals hypocrisy on 10:01 - Jun 16 with 3423 views | StokieBlue |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 09:53 - Jun 16 by CBBlue |
Don't think they're expecting the schools to cook the meals, currently those kids not in school that are eligible for free meals around here get a voucher, believe it's a £15 tesco voucher here.
As a side, the school cook at my child's school isn't working, the meal options for those kids in school are home packed lunch or a cold school dinner (aka packed lunch) prepared at a hub and bused in. |
Fair enough, that's a different matter then and it should be done.
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| £15 should be enugh for..... on 10:41 - Jun 16 with 3368 views | CBBlue |
| £15 should be enugh for..... on 09:55 - Jun 16 by Bloots |
….20 Lambert & Butler and 4 cans of fruity cider. |
Have to admit that's been my fear, I'm hoping there's some conditions attached to it but no idea if there is.
Having had a near neighbour's (very young) son turn up at my house at all hours in the past saying they haven't had breakfast/lunch/dinner and knowing how much the mum drinks, smokes and the rest I have the opinion a certain percentage of benefits should be in food vouchers but I'm aware how that makes me look like a bit of a tory. | |
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| Free school meals hypocrisy on 11:11 - Jun 16 with 3343 views | textbackup |
am I going mad here, but why should the government give free school meals in the school holidays?
if there is a summer school then yes fair enough.... |  |
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| Free school meals hypocrisy on 11:42 - Jun 16 with 3300 views | usm |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 11:11 - Jun 16 by textbackup |
am I going mad here, but why should the government give free school meals in the school holidays?
if there is a summer school then yes fair enough.... |
The Government should give everything to everyone, didnt you know.
Corbyn won after all. |  |
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| Free school meals hypocrisy on 11:54 - Jun 16 with 3277 views | JakeITFC |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 11:11 - Jun 16 by textbackup |
am I going mad here, but why should the government give free school meals in the school holidays?
if there is a summer school then yes fair enough.... |
If the alternative is loads of kids going hungry, then of course it is the concern of the government. |  | | |
| £15 should be enugh for..... on 12:16 - Jun 16 with 3244 views | Darth_Koont |
| £15 should be enugh for..... on 10:41 - Jun 16 by CBBlue |
Have to admit that's been my fear, I'm hoping there's some conditions attached to it but no idea if there is.
Having had a near neighbour's (very young) son turn up at my house at all hours in the past saying they haven't had breakfast/lunch/dinner and knowing how much the mum drinks, smokes and the rest I have the opinion a certain percentage of benefits should be in food vouchers but I'm aware how that makes me look like a bit of a tory. |
To be fair, our country also seems to spend its money on the equivalent of Sky, alcohol and ciggies, given we don't have enough money or inclination to address 4 million kids living in poverty.
It doesn't mean that parents also don't need to take responsibility but the numbers are far beyond that. |  |
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| Free school meals hypocrisy on 13:23 - Jun 16 with 3179 views | textbackup |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 11:54 - Jun 16 by JakeITFC |
If the alternative is loads of kids going hungry, then of course it is the concern of the government. |
has this free school food thing in summer holidays been something ongoing for years? cant say ive ever heard of it | |
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| Free school meals hypocrisy on 13:29 - Jun 16 with 3159 views | Swansea_Blue |
Not sure why ensuring children don't become malnourished is such a contentious issue. What person in their right mind wouldn't want to see safeguards in place?
Westminster could try behaving like a grown up government and do what we're doing in Wales (confirmed back in April); guaranteeing those eligible for free school meals will continue to receive support until they go back to school.
It's a national embarrassment that we've got so many kids who qualify. |  |
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| Free school meals hypocrisy on 13:30 - Jun 16 with 3151 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 11:11 - Jun 16 by textbackup |
am I going mad here, but why should the government give free school meals in the school holidays?
if there is a summer school then yes fair enough.... |
Because a lot have been off for a long time when they would normally be in school and haven't been receiving what they normally would have I suspect (there have been some complaints that people haven't been able to get their vouchers). | |
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| Free school meals hypocrisy on 13:31 - Jun 16 with 3151 views | JakeITFC |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 13:23 - Jun 16 by textbackup |
has this free school food thing in summer holidays been something ongoing for years? cant say ive ever heard of it |
Nope - but there are a lot more families likely to be reliant on stuff like this due to the current lockdown situation.
It hopefully removes a worry of how the most in need parents are going to feed their kids for the next month and a half, which can't be a bad thing. | | | |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 13:38 - Jun 16 with 3119 views | tractordownsouth |
Pleased that the government have come to their senses | |
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| Free school meals hypocrisy on 13:44 - Jun 16 with 3098 views | BlueBadger |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 11:11 - Jun 16 by textbackup |
am I going mad here, but why should the government give free school meals in the school holidays?
if there is a summer school then yes fair enough.... |
Because making sure children don't starve is an absolute bare minimum of things that government should be doing? |  |
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| Free school meals hypocrisy on 13:46 - Jun 16 with 3077 views | gordon |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 11:11 - Jun 16 by textbackup |
am I going mad here, but why should the government give free school meals in the school holidays?
if there is a summer school then yes fair enough.... |
Yeah good point, there's really been nothing unusual going on this year that might mean people have less money than normal. |  | | |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 13:51 - Jun 16 with 3060 views | tractordownsouth |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 13:44 - Jun 16 by BlueBadger |
Because making sure children don't starve is an absolute bare minimum of things that government should be doing? |
No foreign aid! We should help our own!
Let's help our own then
No that's socialism!! | |
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| Free school meals hypocrisy on 14:32 - Jun 16 with 2982 views | Herbivore |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 11:11 - Jun 16 by textbackup |
am I going mad here, but why should the government give free school meals in the school holidays?
if there is a summer school then yes fair enough.... |
Because the government presides over a country where hundreds of thousands of children live in poverty. Given it has no interest in doing anything meaningful to redress inequality the least it can do is make sure kids don't starve. |  |
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| Free school meals hypocrisy on 14:33 - Jun 16 with 2979 views | Herbivore |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 11:42 - Jun 16 by usm |
The Government should give everything to everyone, didnt you know.
Corbyn won after all. |
What do you have against helping kids in poverty exactly? This is a weird hill to die on. | |
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| Free school meals hypocrisy on 14:49 - Jun 16 with 2955 views | usm |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 14:33 - Jun 16 by Herbivore |
What do you have against helping kids in poverty exactly? This is a weird hill to die on. |
I have nothing against helping kids in poverty, far from it.
Anyways it looks like the Govt is now going to help out, so I'm expecting to see lots of praise for them on here.... | |
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| Free school meals hypocrisy on 14:55 - Jun 16 with 2951 views | mrshallisfit |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 11:11 - Jun 16 by textbackup |
am I going mad here, but why should the government give free school meals in the school holidays?
if there is a summer school then yes fair enough.... |
Not mad. Just a bit thick. You've just had over 3 months where kids would have been in school but arent. This must have impacted disproportionately on the very poorest and disadvantaged. | | | |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 15:06 - Jun 16 with 2925 views | mrshallisfit |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 11:42 - Jun 16 by usm |
The Government should give everything to everyone, didnt you know.
Corbyn won after all. |
That post is pretty high on the cretinometer. | | | |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 15:10 - Jun 16 with 2919 views | Herbivore |
| Free school meals hypocrisy on 14:49 - Jun 16 by usm |
I have nothing against helping kids in poverty, far from it.
Anyways it looks like the Govt is now going to help out, so I'm expecting to see lots of praise for them on here.... |
They don't deserve praise for doing the bare minimum under duress.
You say you have no issue with helping kids in poverty and yet I look at your posts on the subject across a few threads and it tells me the opposite of that. Perhaps you just don't want to own it when it's put to you in such stark terms, understandably so. You'd have to be a right kunt to have something against helping kids in poverty. | |
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| Free school meals hypocrisy on 17:13 - Jun 16 with 2851 views | Oldsmoker |
This is a tweet from James O'Brien who still has a job at LBC unlike Nigel Farage.
The people arguing that hungry British children should be denied help in the school holidays seem to be *exactly the same people* that argue we should ‘help our own’ instead of sending money to countries suffering from famine.
I’m beginning to think they’re not very honest.
– James O’Brien (@mrjamesob) June 15, 2020 |  |
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