| Once again I am forced to remind you all 13:01 - May 26 with 3333 views | chicoazul |
That all political parties in the UK think more or less the same about more or less everything and that all votes for any of them are duplicated votes for the same policies and ideology.
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:03 - May 26 with 2407 views | chicoazul |
The chancellor added: "We should not be ideological about this, we should be pragmatic”
They always say the same thing. | |
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:04 - May 26 with 2378 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:03 - May 26 by chicoazul |
The chancellor added: "We should not be ideological about this, we should be pragmatic”
They always say the same thing. |
Just last week the entire Tory party were whipped to vote against a windfall tax.
Today he went further than Labour suggested. |  | | |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:06 - May 26 with 2344 views | chicoazul |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:04 - May 26 by ElderGrizzly |
Just last week the entire Tory party were whipped to vote against a windfall tax.
Today he went further than Labour suggested. |
It’s so strange how this keeps happening. | |
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:12 - May 26 with 2290 views | Illinoisblue |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:06 - May 26 by chicoazul |
It’s so strange how this keeps happening. |
It’s like they’re trying to buy votes. So crazy. |  |
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:14 - May 26 with 2275 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
'Forced to remind us'?
Has someone suggested otherwise today? |  |
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:15 - May 26 with 2266 views | mutters |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:12 - May 26 by Illinoisblue |
It’s like they’re trying to buy votes. So crazy. |
All parties buy votes, it's how the game works |  |
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:29 - May 26 with 2221 views | wkj |
But only one of those parties brings shame to the colour Blue. Which is the worst sin. So don't vote tory. |  |
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:33 - May 26 with 2197 views | Darth_Koont |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:04 - May 26 by ElderGrizzly |
Just last week the entire Tory party were whipped to vote against a windfall tax.
Today he went further than Labour suggested. |
Starmer’s Labour outflanked again? Surely not?
While money is needed, of course, the windfall tax was never enough. Either in pure cash terms or as a serious and sustainable response to a cost of living catastrophe.
Put up some opposition and fight for the people who need representation the most, you empty self-serving tools! |  |
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:34 - May 26 with 2187 views | MattinLondon |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:14 - May 26 by Cheltenham_Blue |
'Forced to remind us'?
Has someone suggested otherwise today? |
Nah, the OP used that wording to try and come across as clever. |  | | |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 15:02 - May 26 with 2034 views | Illinoisblue |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:15 - May 26 by mutters |
All parties buy votes, it's how the game works |
True but some do it less blatantly than others | |
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 16:28 - May 26 with 1962 views | BlueBadger |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:33 - May 26 by Darth_Koont |
Starmer’s Labour outflanked again? Surely not?
While money is needed, of course, the windfall tax was never enough. Either in pure cash terms or as a serious and sustainable response to a cost of living catastrophe.
Put up some opposition and fight for the people who need representation the most, you empty self-serving tools! |
Alright, Lowehouse. |  |
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 17:47 - May 26 with 1880 views | BlueBadger |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:04 - May 26 by ElderGrizzly |
Just last week the entire Tory party were whipped to vote against a windfall tax.
Today he went further than Labour suggested. |
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 17:50 - May 26 with 1864 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:33 - May 26 by Darth_Koont |
Starmer’s Labour outflanked again? Surely not?
While money is needed, of course, the windfall tax was never enough. Either in pure cash terms or as a serious and sustainable response to a cost of living catastrophe.
Put up some opposition and fight for the people who need representation the most, you empty self-serving tools! |
Outflanked?
He suggested it 5 months ago and almost every week since, but by Corbyn losing every election he stood in, including giving Johnson an 80 seat majority, means Starmer couldn’t do anything about it. [Post edited 26 May 2022 17:50]
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 18:12 - May 26 with 1805 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 16:28 - May 26 by BlueBadger |
Alright, Lowehouse. |
Koonters criticises Starmer for being light on policy.
Starmer announces a flagship policy.
Sunak, under pressure, is forced to steal Starmer's flagship policy.
Koonters accuses Starmer of being outflanked.
Very soon Koonters will criticise Starmer for being light on policy. |  |
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 19:01 - May 26 with 1745 views | BlueBadger |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:34 - May 26 by MattinLondon |
Nah, the OP used that wording to try and come across as clever. |
This sounds wholly out of character for Chico. | |
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 19:11 - May 26 with 1719 views | Coastalblue |
Anywhere else this would be considered a weird, if not bizarre thread. Here though, it's just another day  |  |
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 19:14 - May 26 with 1711 views | mrshallisfit |
Oh the sage of all sages. The oracle that is chicoazul. |  | | |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 19:24 - May 26 with 1701 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
I guess that must be why so many people are torn between voting for the Greens, or BNP. | | | |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 19:46 - May 26 with 1667 views | tractordownsouth |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 13:33 - May 26 by Darth_Koont |
Starmer’s Labour outflanked again? Surely not?
While money is needed, of course, the windfall tax was never enough. Either in pure cash terms or as a serious and sustainable response to a cost of living catastrophe.
Put up some opposition and fight for the people who need representation the most, you empty self-serving tools! |
It's great that the Tories have offered even more support than had been proposed but the idea they're outflanking Labour on the general cost of living issue doesn't stand up to the basic facts. Labour called for benefits to be increased in line with inflation and opposed both the UC cut and the NI increase. |  |
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 08:16 - May 27 with 1420 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 19:46 - May 26 by tractordownsouth |
It's great that the Tories have offered even more support than had been proposed but the idea they're outflanking Labour on the general cost of living issue doesn't stand up to the basic facts. Labour called for benefits to be increased in line with inflation and opposed both the UC cut and the NI increase. |
In fairness to Koonters I hadn’t seen the details of the package before reading his post so I owe him an apology. Starmer has been outflanked politically by Sunak.
Starmer is a cautious leader. And he’s aware that Labour aren’t trusted because of previous wild, uncosted spending commitments. So he presents what he thinks the public will see as sensible spending increases.
Modest increase for nurses, only slightly better than the Tories derisory offer. A £10 living wage rather than the £15 proposed by Andy McDonald. It’s a cautious strategy that he believes will not frighten off the tory and floating voters who he needs to being over in the election.
However, Sunak has been spending money like a drunken Keynesian his 25% windfall tax for three years has outflanked the Labour offer of a one of 10% increase. | |
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 09:33 - May 27 with 1362 views | tractordownsouth |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 08:16 - May 27 by GlasgowBlue |
In fairness to Koonters I hadn’t seen the details of the package before reading his post so I owe him an apology. Starmer has been outflanked politically by Sunak.
Starmer is a cautious leader. And he’s aware that Labour aren’t trusted because of previous wild, uncosted spending commitments. So he presents what he thinks the public will see as sensible spending increases.
Modest increase for nurses, only slightly better than the Tories derisory offer. A £10 living wage rather than the £15 proposed by Andy McDonald. It’s a cautious strategy that he believes will not frighten off the tory and floating voters who he needs to being over in the election.
However, Sunak has been spending money like a drunken Keynesian his 25% windfall tax for three years has outflanked the Labour offer of a one of 10% increase. |
You’re right that KS is cautious and the Tory windfall tax has outflanked Labour but the general cost of living package is still not the same when you take the tax increase and UC cuts into account.
Similarly, I think the living wage is a false equivalence because it always goes up so for the party to communicate a particular figure (be it £10 or £15) would be a waste of time when it would need to be uplifted in 2023/4 anyway. Put it this way, if the Labour wage offer is lower than the Tories in the next manifesto I’ll happily call it out but when the two plans are compared at the same time, I’ll be highly surprised if that’s the case. | |
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 09:35 - May 27 with 1356 views | tractordownsouth |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 19:24 - May 26 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I guess that must be why so many people are torn between voting for the Greens, or BNP. |
I remember an episode of Mock the Week where it was suggested we could have a UKIP/Green coalition, whereby the government would plants lots of trees with “f**k off home” written on them. | |
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 10:47 - May 27 with 1267 views | chicoazul |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 19:24 - May 26 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I guess that must be why so many people are torn between voting for the Greens, or BNP. |
Green Party policies are mainstream. | |
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| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 10:50 - May 27 with 1243 views | chicoazul |
| Once again I am forced to remind you all on 17:50 - May 26 by ElderGrizzly |
Outflanked?
He suggested it 5 months ago and almost every week since, but by Corbyn losing every election he stood in, including giving Johnson an 80 seat majority, means Starmer couldn’t do anything about it. [Post edited 26 May 2022 17:50]
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Weird how the Maximum Leader has been an MP for decades if he lost every election he stood in. | |
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