| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis 09:16 - Jul 14 with 2847 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
If like me you didn't know very much about Penny Mordaunt other than "Been in and around the Cabinet, not really made anything her own, massively pro-Brexit" and wondered "How on earth did she become the favourite?" And, more importantly, "Who would benefit from her becoming PM, and what are they expecting in return?"
Then you might like to read this helpful article. And then be scared. Be very scared indeed. Especially if you, your children or grandchildren live or work in Felixstowe/Harwich and might have or need a job in what could become a deregulated Free Port under her approach...
https://fivebyfivetimes.substack.com/p/b-is-for-britain-breaker-not-backer
(You have to get past an irritating rhetorical flourish of calling her "In for a Penny" which isn't as witty as the writer obviously thinks it is, but other than that it is well worth reading). |  | | |  |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 11:12 - Jul 14 with 2299 views | baxterbasics |
Well that's a load of twaddle. "I have a long queue of rancid Tories to examine" signals straight away where the author is coming from. I agree with one of the comments on the end - many of these 'evils' described read like plus points to me.
More damaging to PM4PM was the attack this morning from the right/Brexity/Team Truss contingent via David Frost:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/14/david-frost-grave-reservations-
I still prefer Badenoch.
*Edit - I did chuckle at the use of "Penny Mordor" [Post edited 14 Jul 2022 11:13]
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| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 11:45 - Jul 14 with 2199 views | WeWereZombies |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 11:12 - Jul 14 by baxterbasics |
Well that's a load of twaddle. "I have a long queue of rancid Tories to examine" signals straight away where the author is coming from. I agree with one of the comments on the end - many of these 'evils' described read like plus points to me.
More damaging to PM4PM was the attack this morning from the right/Brexity/Team Truss contingent via David Frost:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/14/david-frost-grave-reservations-
I still prefer Badenoch.
*Edit - I did chuckle at the use of "Penny Mordor" [Post edited 14 Jul 2022 11:13]
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And like you with the OP, I found one item of amusement in the Guardian article - well in the closing piece of self promotion for the newspaper: 'The party's over.' If only... |  |
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| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 12:07 - Jul 14 with 2126 views | BlueBadger |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 11:12 - Jul 14 by baxterbasics |
Well that's a load of twaddle. "I have a long queue of rancid Tories to examine" signals straight away where the author is coming from. I agree with one of the comments on the end - many of these 'evils' described read like plus points to me.
More damaging to PM4PM was the attack this morning from the right/Brexity/Team Truss contingent via David Frost:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/14/david-frost-grave-reservations-
I still prefer Badenoch.
*Edit - I did chuckle at the use of "Penny Mordor" [Post edited 14 Jul 2022 11:13]
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What exactly about her appeals most - the willingness to shaft the most vulnerable in society, the enthusiasm for running down public services, the lying or the pandering to exploitative multinationals? |  |
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| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 12:21 - Jul 14 with 2063 views | MattinLondon |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 12:07 - Jul 14 by BlueBadger |
What exactly about her appeals most - the willingness to shaft the most vulnerable in society, the enthusiasm for running down public services, the lying or the pandering to exploitative multinationals? |
Big tits, Brexit and being British.
Nothing more needed. Hard to fathom why Boris failed. |  | | |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 12:23 - Jul 14 with 2038 views | chicoazul |
I did try to explain to you all what would happen if “Boris” was kicked out. |  |
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| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 12:28 - Jul 14 with 2020 views | nodge_blue |
Preferably to Liz Truss is all I'd say. |  |
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| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 12:29 - Jul 14 with 2013 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 11:12 - Jul 14 by baxterbasics |
Well that's a load of twaddle. "I have a long queue of rancid Tories to examine" signals straight away where the author is coming from. I agree with one of the comments on the end - many of these 'evils' described read like plus points to me.
More damaging to PM4PM was the attack this morning from the right/Brexity/Team Truss contingent via David Frost:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/14/david-frost-grave-reservations-
I still prefer Badenoch.
*Edit - I did chuckle at the use of "Penny Mordor" [Post edited 14 Jul 2022 11:13]
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They're only plus points till you get shafted by them.... |  |
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| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 12:36 - Jul 14 with 1971 views | NthQldITFC |
I like this line from that article:
"There are up to 10 freeports planned for the UK so far. We’ve had them before, but they were all closed by 2012 because they were sh!t." |  |
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| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 12:48 - Jul 14 with 1932 views | TractorWood |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 11:45 - Jul 14 by WeWereZombies |
And like you with the OP, I found one item of amusement in the Guardian article - well in the closing piece of self promotion for the newspaper: 'The party's over.' If only... |
I like the Guardian but it enormously lacks self-awareness. It starts every article from a position of despising the Tories. Which I appreciate is reasonably popular both here and in the country. I also don't really disagree with it.
However, they are the government with an enormous majority, people must have voted for them. To close every article asking for money and priding themselves on fearless freedom of press and independence feels reasonably contradictory!
Do they only hire people who hate the Tories? Is their editorial direction hating the Tories? |  |
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| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 13:28 - Jul 14 with 1812 views | BlueNomad |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 12:48 - Jul 14 by TractorWood |
I like the Guardian but it enormously lacks self-awareness. It starts every article from a position of despising the Tories. Which I appreciate is reasonably popular both here and in the country. I also don't really disagree with it.
However, they are the government with an enormous majority, people must have voted for them. To close every article asking for money and priding themselves on fearless freedom of press and independence feels reasonably contradictory!
Do they only hire people who hate the Tories? Is their editorial direction hating the Tories? |
It does the opposite to the Mail and Express |  | | |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 13:41 - Jul 14 with 1776 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Wait ‘til the Daily Mail start there innuendo about the parties hosted by a lesbian PM during the next lockdown | |
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| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 13:56 - Jul 14 with 1741 views | HARRY10 |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 13:28 - Jul 14 by BlueNomad |
It does the opposite to the Mail and Express |
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| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 14:22 - Jul 14 with 1673 views | HARRY10 |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 12:48 - Jul 14 by TractorWood |
I like the Guardian but it enormously lacks self-awareness. It starts every article from a position of despising the Tories. Which I appreciate is reasonably popular both here and in the country. I also don't really disagree with it.
However, they are the government with an enormous majority, people must have voted for them. To close every article asking for money and priding themselves on fearless freedom of press and independence feels reasonably contradictory!
Do they only hire people who hate the Tories? Is their editorial direction hating the Tories? |
err, no
Articles are written, that by their nature, will be critical of those responsible for the hideous mess we are in.
And because it is independent is any wealthy/foreign owners it is able to pursue that line - and I see nothing wrong with asking for help to remain so.
In fact a very large number of others do as well (myself included) | | | |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 14:29 - Jul 14 with 1642 views | GlasgowBlue |
I like you as a poster, because despite your political leanings you are always thoughful and balanced. So I was keen to read your link as I must admit that other than what is already in the public domain, I know very little about Penny Mordaunt.
However, even as a former member and voter who feels completely disenfranchised from the current incarnation of the Tory party, and somebody who is appalled that Boris Johnson was ever allowed to reach high office and cause havoc with both the Conservative party and the country, I really struggle to take on board an article that uses phrases like “rancid Tories” or “hypocritical Tory bollox” as anything other than biased.
I can get that sort of political analysis from made Harry, with the added misogyny, racism and body shaming. |  |
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| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 14:29 - Jul 14 with 1645 views | jeera |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 11:12 - Jul 14 by baxterbasics |
Well that's a load of twaddle. "I have a long queue of rancid Tories to examine" signals straight away where the author is coming from. I agree with one of the comments on the end - many of these 'evils' described read like plus points to me.
More damaging to PM4PM was the attack this morning from the right/Brexity/Team Truss contingent via David Frost:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/14/david-frost-grave-reservations-
I still prefer Badenoch.
*Edit - I did chuckle at the use of "Penny Mordor" [Post edited 14 Jul 2022 11:13]
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Twaddle?
Did you even bother to look at the pattern of her voting record?
Do you not think that's significant evidence of how someone thinks for goodness' sake?
Keep on with the boot-licking there buddy. I'm sure they care about you and yours. |  |
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| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 14:35 - Jul 14 with 1628 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 12:28 - Jul 14 by nodge_blue |
Preferably to Liz Truss is all I'd say. |
Disingenuous and incompetent versus disingenuous and slightly more competent. What a choice! |  |
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| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 14:46 - Jul 14 with 1592 views | HARRY10 |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 14:29 - Jul 14 by GlasgowBlue |
I like you as a poster, because despite your political leanings you are always thoughful and balanced. So I was keen to read your link as I must admit that other than what is already in the public domain, I know very little about Penny Mordaunt.
However, even as a former member and voter who feels completely disenfranchised from the current incarnation of the Tory party, and somebody who is appalled that Boris Johnson was ever allowed to reach high office and cause havoc with both the Conservative party and the country, I really struggle to take on board an article that uses phrases like “rancid Tories” or “hypocritical Tory bollox” as anything other than biased.
I can get that sort of political analysis from made Harry, with the added misogyny, racism and body shaming. |
I see our pet 'rightie' is up to his usual standards - however I will ask him to provide examples of my supposed misogyny and racism
or us that an attempt to deflect from his lie about the Fixed Term act
and isn't 'fat shaming' some kind of wokey cokey, that you righties are in a crusade against ? | | | |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 16:23 - Jul 14 with 1477 views | TractorWood |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 14:22 - Jul 14 by HARRY10 |
err, no
Articles are written, that by their nature, will be critical of those responsible for the hideous mess we are in.
And because it is independent is any wealthy/foreign owners it is able to pursue that line - and I see nothing wrong with asking for help to remain so.
In fact a very large number of others do as well (myself included) |
Or cynically it is the political antithesis of the mail et al. It exploits and attempts to trigger its readership which is largely middle class, largely educated, largely contrarian people.
It contemptuously preaches about cultural war but in my view is actually sort of fuelling it. | |
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| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 16:38 - Jul 14 with 1407 views | STYG |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 12:48 - Jul 14 by TractorWood |
I like the Guardian but it enormously lacks self-awareness. It starts every article from a position of despising the Tories. Which I appreciate is reasonably popular both here and in the country. I also don't really disagree with it.
However, they are the government with an enormous majority, people must have voted for them. To close every article asking for money and priding themselves on fearless freedom of press and independence feels reasonably contradictory!
Do they only hire people who hate the Tories? Is their editorial direction hating the Tories? |
Does more harm that good that.
By all means, people need to know how vile the Tories are and how much they don't care about any of us.
But you have to praise what the get right, criticise Labour or the Lib Dems or the Greens and show people that you're reporting fairly and the Tories are usually vile.
If you make everything about them negative you just come off like a Fox News agenda led rag that people ignore and, if anything, you make people dismiss the stuff they should take notice of because they'll assume it's all part of getting at the Tories.
The best way to highlight these things is through fairness and impartiality. When criticism of something comes from someone who also can praise it, it validates it so much more as being fair and deserved criticism. | | | |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 16:54 - Jul 14 with 1373 views | nodge_blue |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 14:35 - Jul 14 by Swansea_Blue |
Disingenuous and incompetent versus disingenuous and slightly more competent. What a choice! |
Exactly. Liz Truss will alienate everybody in a month. | |
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| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 16:55 - Jul 14 with 1366 views | HARRY10 |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 16:38 - Jul 14 by STYG |
Does more harm that good that.
By all means, people need to know how vile the Tories are and how much they don't care about any of us.
But you have to praise what the get right, criticise Labour or the Lib Dems or the Greens and show people that you're reporting fairly and the Tories are usually vile.
If you make everything about them negative you just come off like a Fox News agenda led rag that people ignore and, if anything, you make people dismiss the stuff they should take notice of because they'll assume it's all part of getting at the Tories.
The best way to highlight these things is through fairness and impartiality. When criticism of something comes from someone who also can praise it, it validates it so much more as being fair and deserved criticism. |
"But you have to praise what the get right,"
I am sure they will, when that happens. Though cynics might suggest what is the point of comment on something that is supposed to happen.
Is the Guardian to be castigated for not praising the airlines when they fly passengers without any hitch - or is it that the expectation is to report when it goes wrong.
And as the agenda is pretty much set by the government of the day, it is that agenda that is being commented upon - and ironically we even have the election candidates promising to change things
from what ?
the mess that ..... they caused.
Why doesn't the EADT not comment on the 20,000 home fans who 'get it right', as they do when some (one) causes trouble ? | | | |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 17:22 - Jul 14 with 1311 views | jeera |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 12:48 - Jul 14 by TractorWood |
I like the Guardian but it enormously lacks self-awareness. It starts every article from a position of despising the Tories. Which I appreciate is reasonably popular both here and in the country. I also don't really disagree with it.
However, they are the government with an enormous majority, people must have voted for them. To close every article asking for money and priding themselves on fearless freedom of press and independence feels reasonably contradictory!
Do they only hire people who hate the Tories? Is their editorial direction hating the Tories? |
Where do you stand on the quotes used in that piece though?
Frost is being quoted directly and neither the Guardian nor the authors are responsible for his comments.
Seems a reasonable thing to report to me, especially when talking about a candidate for the position of PM. | |
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| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 17:28 - Jul 14 with 1284 views | STYG |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 16:55 - Jul 14 by HARRY10 |
"But you have to praise what the get right,"
I am sure they will, when that happens. Though cynics might suggest what is the point of comment on something that is supposed to happen.
Is the Guardian to be castigated for not praising the airlines when they fly passengers without any hitch - or is it that the expectation is to report when it goes wrong.
And as the agenda is pretty much set by the government of the day, it is that agenda that is being commented upon - and ironically we even have the election candidates promising to change things
from what ?
the mess that ..... they caused.
Why doesn't the EADT not comment on the 20,000 home fans who 'get it right', as they do when some (one) causes trouble ? |
I couldn't hate the Tories more.
But you cannot suggest that everything they do is wrong always.
An airline you expect to fly people on time to their destination without losing luggage.
The Government are making new decisions on a daily basis. Most will be wrong, inhumane or with self-interest in mind, but occasionally their own self interests will align with what is best for others. | | | |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 17:31 - Jul 14 with 1273 views | jeera |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 17:28 - Jul 14 by STYG |
I couldn't hate the Tories more.
But you cannot suggest that everything they do is wrong always.
An airline you expect to fly people on time to their destination without losing luggage.
The Government are making new decisions on a daily basis. Most will be wrong, inhumane or with self-interest in mind, but occasionally their own self interests will align with what is best for others. |
I for one am more than happy to give credit when they do something right.
That doesn't outweigh the rest though and nor should it be applauded on the odd occasion someone actually manages to do their job properly.
Let me know when it happens though so it can at least be noted. | |
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| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 17:41 - Jul 14 with 1245 views | HARRY10 |
| Penny Mordaunt, an analysis on 17:28 - Jul 14 by STYG |
I couldn't hate the Tories more.
But you cannot suggest that everything they do is wrong always.
An airline you expect to fly people on time to their destination without losing luggage.
The Government are making new decisions on a daily basis. Most will be wrong, inhumane or with self-interest in mind, but occasionally their own self interests will align with what is best for others. |
eh ?
"But you cannot suggest that everything they do is wrong always. "
I haven't, unless you have any evidence to the contrary
An airline doing what it is supposed to do, does not warrant comment - getting it wrong does. As with the government.
I would not have thought that concept is too difficult to grasp. | | | |
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