| That Pass 09:38 - Nov 20 with 3287 views | Metal_Hacker |
From Humphreys yesterday in the second half to Wes
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| That Pass on 09:43 - Nov 20 with 3245 views | norfsufblue |
the weight he delivers each one with....almost every pass is perfectly timed and weighted in a modern game where so many waste good positions with the modern trend to ping every pass at pace which often results in the ball going out of play... |  | | |
| That Pass on 09:44 - Nov 20 with 3233 views | Vaughan8 |
Definitely looks a player.
Sometimes these youngsters come in and you can see they are good but just need to be a bit more strong etc etc.
Humphreys has come in and not looked out of place at all. Maybe we've managed him very well. |  | | |
| That Pass on 09:45 - Nov 20 with 3215 views | Metal_Hacker |
It’s very very early days but I already expect that from him just because of the way he has taken his chance. Best young player for quite a few years IMHO.
Good luck to the lad and well done for taking the opportunity | |
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| That Pass on 10:30 - Nov 20 with 3111 views | tractorboy1978 |
| That Pass on 09:44 - Nov 20 by Vaughan8 |
Definitely looks a player.
Sometimes these youngsters come in and you can see they are good but just need to be a bit more strong etc etc.
Humphreys has come in and not looked out of place at all. Maybe we've managed him very well. |
Was having this discussion with a mate yesterday, he's so slight in build but competes and doesn't look out of place physically. His positional discipline is incredibly good for someone of his age which certainly helps. Morsy is the perfect partner for him too, you can see that he really trusts Humphreys alongside him which is as bigger compliment as you can give. [Post edited 20 Nov 2022 10:34]
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| That Pass on 10:31 - Nov 20 with 3102 views | HatStand |
The pass he put over to Harness to set up the 1st goal, was pretty accurate too. | |
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| That Pass on 10:36 - Nov 20 with 3067 views | bluefunk |
| That Pass on 10:31 - Nov 20 by HatStand |
The pass he put over to Harness to set up the 1st goal, was pretty accurate too. |
That wasn’t Humphries, it was Morsy |  | | |
| That Pass on 11:03 - Nov 20 with 2982 views | Darth_Koont |
| That Pass on 10:30 - Nov 20 by tractorboy1978 |
Was having this discussion with a mate yesterday, he's so slight in build but competes and doesn't look out of place physically. His positional discipline is incredibly good for someone of his age which certainly helps. Morsy is the perfect partner for him too, you can see that he really trusts Humphreys alongside him which is as bigger compliment as you can give. [Post edited 20 Nov 2022 10:34]
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Agreed.
I was also thinking yesterday that he’s learnt to use his body well. And to take the foul when players try to overpower him.
So his size really doesn’t seem to be an issue. In fact, with him coping well enough with the physical stuff, his size remains an asset for getting around the pitch and being quick and neat in possession.
I bloody love him. Just hope as a club that we can match his likely career progression over the next 2-3 years. |  |
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| That Pass on 11:15 - Nov 20 with 2940 views | Dubtractor |
Him getting the opportunity, through injuries to others, and then grasping it as he has, is a perfect example of why it is important to have some young players in and around the squad rather than just out on loan.
We've spent the last decade or so loading our squad with also rans for squad depth (Tom Carroll being one of the worst examples, but there are plenty more), and they just block any opportunities for young players. We do have a fairly large 'senior' first team squad now in fairness, but not too many that are just making up the numbers. |  |
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| That Pass on 11:18 - Nov 20 with 2918 views | FrimleyBlue |
will say when watching this back... how confident Burns is that a 19 year old is going to play that ball. |  |
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| That Pass on 11:20 - Nov 20 with 2915 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| That Pass on 11:03 - Nov 20 by Darth_Koont |
Agreed.
I was also thinking yesterday that he’s learnt to use his body well. And to take the foul when players try to overpower him.
So his size really doesn’t seem to be an issue. In fact, with him coping well enough with the physical stuff, his size remains an asset for getting around the pitch and being quick and neat in possession.
I bloody love him. Just hope as a club that we can match his likely career progression over the next 2-3 years. |
Do we think his configuration with Morsy is different to Evans’? Strikes me that Humphreys and Morsy play left and right, whereas Evans was very much the deeper of the two.
Anyone got a heat map? | | | |
| That Pass on 11:25 - Nov 20 with 2877 views | FrimleyBlue |
| That Pass on 11:20 - Nov 20 by Exiled2Surrey |
Do we think his configuration with Morsy is different to Evans’? Strikes me that Humphreys and Morsy play left and right, whereas Evans was very much the deeper of the two.
Anyone got a heat map? |
Was it possible a misconception that Evans sat deeper? He was top of league 1 for attacking passes etc. | |
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| That Pass on 11:38 - Nov 20 with 2848 views | NthQldITFC |
| That Pass on 11:15 - Nov 20 by Dubtractor |
Him getting the opportunity, through injuries to others, and then grasping it as he has, is a perfect example of why it is important to have some young players in and around the squad rather than just out on loan.
We've spent the last decade or so loading our squad with also rans for squad depth (Tom Carroll being one of the worst examples, but there are plenty more), and they just block any opportunities for young players. We do have a fairly large 'senior' first team squad now in fairness, but not too many that are just making up the numbers. |
Also, any young players that are kept here on the fringes of the first team squad are going to be getting top notch training, development, psychology and training matches these days, so perhaps it's not quite so important to get loans out for experience as it used to be. Perhaps depends on the mentality of the player a bit, and whether they get game time at the loan club. |  |
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| That Pass on 11:53 - Nov 20 with 2808 views | JDB23 |
| That Pass on 11:03 - Nov 20 by Darth_Koont |
Agreed.
I was also thinking yesterday that he’s learnt to use his body well. And to take the foul when players try to overpower him.
So his size really doesn’t seem to be an issue. In fact, with him coping well enough with the physical stuff, his size remains an asset for getting around the pitch and being quick and neat in possession.
I bloody love him. Just hope as a club that we can match his likely career progression over the next 2-3 years. |
Pretty gutting to think that we could have had a midfield 3 of Downes, Gibbs and Humpreys but we'll never get to see it. Even add Dozzell in there and that is a quality group of CMs from our academy.
Really looking forward to seeing Cam's progression. | | | |
| That Pass on 12:01 - Nov 20 with 2763 views | Darth_Koont |
| That Pass on 11:20 - Nov 20 by Exiled2Surrey |
Do we think his configuration with Morsy is different to Evans’? Strikes me that Humphreys and Morsy play left and right, whereas Evans was very much the deeper of the two.
Anyone got a heat map? |
It’s a small sample but I get the impression that Humphreys helps knit the left side together much better than the Morsy/Evans combo.
Possibly as you suggest because it’s a left/right combo rather than the 1 up, 1 back style of Morsy and Evans. But even so I think Humphreys is more of an all-rounder than the other two which probably helps him do that job.
When Evans is back I fully expect Humphreys to make way. But for me that would be more about managing the workload than saying Evans is a better player as Humphreys contribution has been comparable IMO. | |
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| That Pass on 16:39 - Nov 20 with 2547 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| That Pass on 11:25 - Nov 20 by FrimleyBlue |
Was it possible a misconception that Evans sat deeper? He was top of league 1 for attacking passes etc. |
TBH I have no idea how an attacking pass is defined - if it is one to a wing back who then puts a cross in then I am not surprised he tops those stats, but that doesn’t mean he is playing in a more advanced role than Morsy.
I think Evans used to take the ball off the CBs more often than the others - and that Morsy is doing more of that now. Not saying one is better than the other as a configuration, just that this is yet more evidence that we are adopting a round peg / round hole policy - and if you have a triangle peg you had better make the hole triangular (that definitely doesn’t make sense)
If it is the case that this is a new way of playing then I suppose it is unsurprising that we concede goals like we did against Cheltenham while it beds in, but suspect it will continue to look pretty good now it has settled down. | | | |
| That Pass on 23:21 - Nov 20 with 2263 views | charlie1 |
| That Pass on 11:18 - Nov 20 by FrimleyBlue |
will say when watching this back... how confident Burns is that a 19 year old is going to play that ball. |
Agreed. Wes is stood next to Donacien at the start of the clip, then as soon as he sees Cam has stopped the cross coming in he’s away.
Just excellent counter-attacking football. | | | |
| That Pass on 08:54 - Nov 21 with 2031 views | itfcjoe |
| That Pass on 09:44 - Nov 20 by Vaughan8 |
Definitely looks a player.
Sometimes these youngsters come in and you can see they are good but just need to be a bit more strong etc etc.
Humphreys has come in and not looked out of place at all. Maybe we've managed him very well. |
Coming into a well functioning, well coached and confident side gives them the best possible platform as well |  |
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| That Pass on 09:42 - Nov 21 with 1936 views | portmanking |
| That Pass on 08:54 - Nov 21 by itfcjoe |
Coming into a well functioning, well coached and confident side gives them the best possible platform as well |
I think this is absolutely the key. All too often we've blooded youngsters into a sh*t storm of a team and expected them to float. I have so much confidence in McKenna knowing when the time is right for our academy grads. | | | |
| That Pass on 09:54 - Nov 21 with 1873 views | itfcjoe |
| That Pass on 09:42 - Nov 21 by portmanking |
I think this is absolutely the key. All too often we've blooded youngsters into a sh*t storm of a team and expected them to float. I have so much confidence in McKenna knowing when the time is right for our academy grads. |
Generally it's circumstance though - you can make plans on how to introduce players to football but rarely does it go to plan | |
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| That Pass on 10:55 - Nov 21 with 1775 views | portmanking |
| That Pass on 09:54 - Nov 21 by itfcjoe |
Generally it's circumstance though - you can make plans on how to introduce players to football but rarely does it go to plan |
It comes down to squad depth/priorities though doesn't it? While Cook bloated our squad, blocking the path of youngsters in the event of injuries and suspension to front-line players, KMac opted to have a tighter senior squad augmented with some youngsters. | | | |
| That Pass on 11:30 - Nov 21 with 1728 views | itfcjoe |
| That Pass on 10:55 - Nov 21 by portmanking |
It comes down to squad depth/priorities though doesn't it? While Cook bloated our squad, blocking the path of youngsters in the event of injuries and suspension to front-line players, KMac opted to have a tighter senior squad augmented with some youngsters. |
True to an extent but Humphreys is getting his chance because Ball, Evans and Camara are injured - that's still a lot of traffic | |
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| That Pass on 11:48 - Nov 21 with 1658 views | Vic |
| That Pass on 11:30 - Nov 21 by itfcjoe |
True to an extent but Humphreys is getting his chance because Ball, Evans and Camara are injured - that's still a lot of traffic |
hopefully he'll get enough time to show that he's worthy of equal consideration. And with a higher ceiling I'd like to think this gives him the edge given the clubs policy on financial development (buy low/sell high) |  |
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| That Pass on 12:10 - Nov 21 with 1613 views | bob12 |
| That Pass on 12:01 - Nov 20 by Darth_Koont |
It’s a small sample but I get the impression that Humphreys helps knit the left side together much better than the Morsy/Evans combo.
Possibly as you suggest because it’s a left/right combo rather than the 1 up, 1 back style of Morsy and Evans. But even so I think Humphreys is more of an all-rounder than the other two which probably helps him do that job.
When Evans is back I fully expect Humphreys to make way. But for me that would be more about managing the workload than saying Evans is a better player as Humphreys contribution has been comparable IMO. |
I actually disagree with this.
Before I start, don't get me wrong, his on the ball play is excellent and he definitely has a bright future.
However, I feel defensively his positioning affects the left-hand side. Every game he has played in so far, the other team have created lots down our left. That is because the game passes him by and his not filling the right positions.
If you look nothing comes down the right-hand side and that's because Morsy is positioned to cut it out or give them no space. Whereas on the left the just run through where Humphreys should be, and Davis is left one on one/two.
Great on the ball, needs to work on positioning off the ball. | | | |
| That Pass on 12:34 - Nov 21 with 1570 views | Darth_Koont |
| That Pass on 12:10 - Nov 21 by bob12 |
I actually disagree with this.
Before I start, don't get me wrong, his on the ball play is excellent and he definitely has a bright future.
However, I feel defensively his positioning affects the left-hand side. Every game he has played in so far, the other team have created lots down our left. That is because the game passes him by and his not filling the right positions.
If you look nothing comes down the right-hand side and that's because Morsy is positioned to cut it out or give them no space. Whereas on the left the just run through where Humphreys should be, and Davis is left one on one/two.
Great on the ball, needs to work on positioning off the ball. |
Morsy’s defensive work and positioning is outstanding so no real criticism if Humphreys isn’t (yet) up to the same standard. But overall I think Humphreys can give us a better balance on the left.
If it weren’t for needing Evans right-foot for set pieces and the likely need to manage Humphreys’s workload then I think there’d be a proper battle to start alongside Morsy. | |
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