| Can I defend myself 09:06 - Mar 12 with 5078 views | onceablue |
Life long ITFC fan who has seen well over 2000 games home and away
Yes I have been negative about McKenna only because I fear we will not go up this season which I think would be hugely disappointing given where we were in December and the budget we have
I really want McKenna to succeed but the truth is us loyal fans have been here long before KM arrived and will be here long after he has gone
I guess a lot of us older fans have been spoilt in past years 70/80’s so don’t get quite as excited about winning at Port Vale on aTuesday night
However the most important thing for me to do was to pass my passion on of ITFC to my Son and prevent him supporting Man City or Arsenal
I have done that and to see his face when we scored our second yesterday was priceless
Hopefully one day he might even see us beat the scum up the road. |  | | |  |
| Can I defend myself on 10:15 - Mar 12 with 3867 views | ClareBlue |
I wouldn't agree with you one bit. I saw my first game in 1974 and saw great wins in Europe, great teams under SBR and pushing to win the league and cups. But times have changed and we are not going to see that again. But this season I have got as much out of following Ipswich that I did then and my son who was born in Ireland goes with me to any games he can. It's a club and the vibe this year has been just as good as anything in the 49 years I have been a part of it. And that really isn't selective memory. You don't need to be beating Barcelona to feel the joy of winning and the troughs of previous years make the winning even better.
And eventually there will be one manager that we won't be here when they leave, so best just to get the pleasure of beating Port Vale when we can. It might not happen again in our lifetimes. | | | |
| Can I defend myself on 11:23 - Mar 12 with 3720 views | Mullet |
You can.
But your post was very funny. If you're an old head, you should be above that sort of teary eyed nonsense and know quality when you see it. |  |
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| Can I defend myself on 11:33 - Mar 12 with 3639 views | BondiBlue |
I was brought up on burley's team. Everyone could see he was building something and no-one was suggesting he should be sacked even when we lost in the playoffs 3 years in a row. The world's gone crazy now sacking managers every 5 minutes. Let's not start with that unless we really have to. | |
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| Can I defend myself on 11:37 - Mar 12 with 3604 views | Churchman |
| Can I defend myself on 11:33 - Mar 12 by BondiBlue |
I was brought up on burley's team. Everyone could see he was building something and no-one was suggesting he should be sacked even when we lost in the playoffs 3 years in a row. The world's gone crazy now sacking managers every 5 minutes. Let's not start with that unless we really have to. |
The current classic is Arteta at Arsenal. Last year everyone wanted him gone. And now? |  | | |
| Can I defend myself on 12:00 - Mar 12 with 3492 views | BigCommon |
Followed Ipswich since 70s...
When Burgess headed our second goal yesterday, that feeling of emotion, joy, relief, doesn't change, for me.. |  | | |
| Can I defend myself on 12:02 - Mar 12 with 3480 views | ronnyd |
| Can I defend myself on 11:33 - Mar 12 by BondiBlue |
I was brought up on burley's team. Everyone could see he was building something and no-one was suggesting he should be sacked even when we lost in the playoffs 3 years in a row. The world's gone crazy now sacking managers every 5 minutes. Let's not start with that unless we really have to. |
That's the problem in the modern game. Owners and a lot of the fans demand instant success. | | | |
| Can I defend myself on 12:08 - Mar 12 with 3420 views | unstableblue |
| Can I defend myself on 11:37 - Mar 12 by Churchman |
The current classic is Arteta at Arsenal. Last year everyone wanted him gone. And now? |
Arteta is a great lesson for us
Managers need time
Managers need to build their own squad, which takes multiple windows
Arteta was being hounded out by fans, and the media were having a field day
Now he’s the best thing since sliced bread
For me you truly question a new manager when there is not steady progress, where there incremental improvement - jeeze McKennas record is already ridiculous- but more importantly the guys learns and improves he’s developing a brilliant squad
And it’s a the most fun to be Town fan since Magilton |  |
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| Can I defend myself on 12:16 - Mar 12 with 3367 views | billlm |
| Can I defend myself on 12:00 - Mar 12 by BigCommon |
Followed Ipswich since 70s...
When Burgess headed our second goal yesterday, that feeling of emotion, joy, relief, doesn't change, for me.. |
I'm the same, since 1971, the older I get when we score as much pleasure as I ever have probably even more,
Unbelievable times being a town supporter and this season is right up there what league dosent matter,
TOWN MATTER, |  | | |
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| Can I defend myself on 12:21 - Mar 12 with 3337 views | SE1blue |
| Can I defend myself on 12:00 - Mar 12 by BigCommon |
Followed Ipswich since 70s...
When Burgess headed our second goal yesterday, that feeling of emotion, joy, relief, doesn't change, for me.. |
Yup, turning the big 5-0 this year and that win yesterday made me wish I was in my late teens/early twenties again, with disposable time and money to follow Ipswich everywhere.
Stupid responsibilities… |  |
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| Can I defend myself on 12:25 - Mar 12 with 3302 views | Ryorry |
| Can I defend myself on 12:16 - Mar 12 by billlm |
I'm the same, since 1971, the older I get when we score as much pleasure as I ever have probably even more,
Unbelievable times being a town supporter and this season is right up there what league dosent matter,
TOWN MATTER, |
Me too. Football's about excitement, and not just for each game or even just that season, but also the slow burn of watching your team and manager improve over a longer period.
Not to mention ground & facility improvements including PR itself, training ground & Academy, online accessibility, audio-visual stuff etc. |  |
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| Can I defend myself on 12:30 - Mar 12 with 3279 views | BloomBlue |
| Can I defend myself on 11:37 - Mar 12 by Churchman |
The current classic is Arteta at Arsenal. Last year everyone wanted him gone. And now? |
Plus typically, those Arsenal fans who were calling for him to be sacked are now claiming it wasn't them.
But you can bet if City do beat them to the title, those same fans will then claim 'told you so' |  | | |
| Can I defend myself on 12:36 - Mar 12 with 3242 views | Darth_Koont |
I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all to be critical of where we were a month or so ago. After a very good first 15 games, the next 15 were increasingly bringing us back to last season’s points tally and saw us go from auto favourites to part of the play-off pack but with the worst form.
The drop off is pretty clear here: https://www.twtd.co.uk/statistics/league-position/
and so was a little more than fans being patient and taking the ups with the downs given how we were showing every sign of stalling. |  |
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| Can I defend myself on 12:41 - Mar 12 with 3207 views | billlm |
| Can I defend myself on 12:25 - Mar 12 by Ryorry |
Me too. Football's about excitement, and not just for each game or even just that season, but also the slow burn of watching your team and manager improve over a longer period.
Not to mention ground & facility improvements including PR itself, training ground & Academy, online accessibility, audio-visual stuff etc. |
For our youngsters the future looks bright, | | | |
| Can I defend myself on 12:51 - Mar 12 with 3122 views | unstableblue |
| Can I defend myself on 12:36 - Mar 12 by Darth_Koont |
I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all to be critical of where we were a month or so ago. After a very good first 15 games, the next 15 were increasingly bringing us back to last season’s points tally and saw us go from auto favourites to part of the play-off pack but with the worst form.
The drop off is pretty clear here: https://www.twtd.co.uk/statistics/league-position/
and so was a little more than fans being patient and taking the ups with the downs given how we were showing every sign of stalling. |
Our central midfield had three injuries Evans, Ball and Camara…
Harness was proving to be too inconsistent
Burns and Donacien were making our right side toothless
Every team we played even the more adventurous (Bristol Rovers) were deploying the low block
We were the wrong side of fine margins, whilst our rivals were getting the breaks
McKenna brought in the personnel and has tweaked the system… and it seems to be working
To question the manager given the above was a little blinkered and probably influenced by past failed managerial appointments
We’re going to make the play offs… it’s incremental | |
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| Can I defend myself on 12:56 - Mar 12 with 3093 views | monkeymagic |
I’ve been going regularly since 1980, and the current ‘feel’ at the club is not that far behind the very best of times imho.
I’m possibly lucky/different/weird in that I don’t yearn for the premier league. I think it’s a circus and has the potential to ruin good clubs. Post about 1984, apart from coming 5th in Burleys first year up, most of my experience of us in the top flight has been sh*t. Much lower crowds than now, bang average football and little atmosphere at FPR. I’d be content with us being a decent tier 2 club that played the right way. | | | |
| I should add… on 13:05 - Mar 12 with 3026 views | unstableblue |
| Can I defend myself on 12:51 - Mar 12 by unstableblue |
Our central midfield had three injuries Evans, Ball and Camara…
Harness was proving to be too inconsistent
Burns and Donacien were making our right side toothless
Every team we played even the more adventurous (Bristol Rovers) were deploying the low block
We were the wrong side of fine margins, whilst our rivals were getting the breaks
McKenna brought in the personnel and has tweaked the system… and it seems to be working
To question the manager given the above was a little blinkered and probably influenced by past failed managerial appointments
We’re going to make the play offs… it’s incremental |
… and not to sound too happy clappy
In that run of form McKenna made mistakes and also failed to get a performance out of certain players
Wycombe away was unacceptable and was Oxford away… and indeed Cambridge first half and elements of Lincoln. But it’s very hard to keep the momentum with a young and also developing squad.
The question people should have asked was whether McKenna is still green, is learning, and so needed backing. Not the mutterings and the awful scenes at Bristol.
I think Barnsley away will be a loss, and we’ll drop points in games like Shrewsbury. The hope has to be we do 2 points better than Plymouth.
Yesterday the team showed a character that bodes well for the play-offs - if that is indeed our fate.
But what a great and enjoyable seasons this has been… let’s hope it ends in getting out of this league to a level our young manager and fan base deserve [Post edited 12 Mar 2023 13:29]
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| Can I defend myself on 13:26 - Mar 12 with 2914 views | Churchman |
| Can I defend myself on 12:16 - Mar 12 by billlm |
I'm the same, since 1971, the older I get when we score as much pleasure as I ever have probably even more,
Unbelievable times being a town supporter and this season is right up there what league dosent matter,
TOWN MATTER, |
Same for me. Even back in the good ole days, I couldn’t care a less who was playing for the opposition. I just wanted my team to win. Nothing else. And nothing has change. It’s the same feeling whether we beat Morecambe or Man United.
Where the difference lies with a result like yesterday’s is that post game it feels like a significant step forwards for the team. They and whoever they play (and the supporters) know without doubt that if we are on our game, the opposition are in a lot of trouble. | | | |
| I should add… on 13:31 - Mar 12 with 2864 views | Darth_Koont |
| I should add… on 13:05 - Mar 12 by unstableblue |
… and not to sound too happy clappy
In that run of form McKenna made mistakes and also failed to get a performance out of certain players
Wycombe away was unacceptable and was Oxford away… and indeed Cambridge first half and elements of Lincoln. But it’s very hard to keep the momentum with a young and also developing squad.
The question people should have asked was whether McKenna is still green, is learning, and so needed backing. Not the mutterings and the awful scenes at Bristol.
I think Barnsley away will be a loss, and we’ll drop points in games like Shrewsbury. The hope has to be we do 2 points better than Plymouth.
Yesterday the team showed a character that bodes well for the play-offs - if that is indeed our fate.
But what a great and enjoyable seasons this has been… let’s hope it ends in getting out of this league to a level our young manager and fan base deserve [Post edited 12 Mar 2023 13:29]
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That's all very well.
But we spent more and had the vast majority of the squad together for a year before this slump in the middle third of this season. And no-one would ever extend that to Cook for his bad run even with a brand-new squad.
If we end up in the play-offs but fail then I certainly won't be calling for McKenna to go. But a third season in League One at this spending rate is not part of the plan.
I like and understand what McKenna and his team are trying to do –and the future could be very bright indeed. Let's not pretend we're there yet, especially when we've made fairly hard work so far of getting over the first hurdle.
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| Can I defend myself on 13:43 - Mar 12 with 2795 views | Swansea_Blue |
As a long time(ish) fan I can see we’re building something and actually progressing for once. It’s been over 20 years since that happened. |  |
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| I should add… on 13:48 - Mar 12 with 2775 views | Churchman |
| I should add… on 13:31 - Mar 12 by Darth_Koont |
That's all very well.
But we spent more and had the vast majority of the squad together for a year before this slump in the middle third of this season. And no-one would ever extend that to Cook for his bad run even with a brand-new squad.
If we end up in the play-offs but fail then I certainly won't be calling for McKenna to go. But a third season in League One at this spending rate is not part of the plan.
I like and understand what McKenna and his team are trying to do –and the future could be very bright indeed. Let's not pretend we're there yet, especially when we've made fairly hard work so far of getting over the first hurdle.
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No it wasn’t part of the plan. But by Evans appointing Cook at the time he did, the takeover and Cook doing his chaotic and crude bomb squad routine, we effectively lost a season.
McKenna should and will be judged on this season and since we will now make top six, maybe better, the debate over who should be in the hot seat next season should be over.
We are progressing. Frustrating we are not top two. With our resources that had to have been the target. But if we fail in that, the question has to be would there be any justification or benefit by making a change? None would be my view.
No we are not there yet but the future is indeed very positive. | | | |
| I should add… on 13:56 - Mar 12 with 2736 views | Pinewoodblue |
| I should add… on 13:48 - Mar 12 by Churchman |
No it wasn’t part of the plan. But by Evans appointing Cook at the time he did, the takeover and Cook doing his chaotic and crude bomb squad routine, we effectively lost a season.
McKenna should and will be judged on this season and since we will now make top six, maybe better, the debate over who should be in the hot seat next season should be over.
We are progressing. Frustrating we are not top two. With our resources that had to have been the target. But if we fail in that, the question has to be would there be any justification or benefit by making a change? None would be my view.
No we are not there yet but the future is indeed very positive. |
Cannot see any reason why KMc’s position should be questioned. |  |
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| Can I defend myself on 13:56 - Mar 12 with 2734 views | Bluespeed225 |
| Can I defend myself on 12:16 - Mar 12 by billlm |
I'm the same, since 1971, the older I get when we score as much pleasure as I ever have probably even more,
Unbelievable times being a town supporter and this season is right up there what league dosent matter,
TOWN MATTER, |
Yup, good times were a given in 70’s early 80’s, sparodic since then, so I love every time we have a decent run. I was painting skirting yesterday, penalty awarded. Gutted, continued painting fearing the worst, equaliser, comeback by them, good work thrown away. Walton saves, and I just rise up onto my knees, ‘Platoon style’ and have a moment. Up a step ladder for the 2nd goal, I have to come down and dance around the kitchen. It’ll go down as one of my favourite wins ever I think! | | | |
| I should add… on 14:01 - Mar 12 with 2699 views | Darth_Koont |
| I should add… on 13:48 - Mar 12 by Churchman |
No it wasn’t part of the plan. But by Evans appointing Cook at the time he did, the takeover and Cook doing his chaotic and crude bomb squad routine, we effectively lost a season.
McKenna should and will be judged on this season and since we will now make top six, maybe better, the debate over who should be in the hot seat next season should be over.
We are progressing. Frustrating we are not top two. With our resources that had to have been the target. But if we fail in that, the question has to be would there be any justification or benefit by making a change? None would be my view.
No we are not there yet but the future is indeed very positive. |
I am judging him on this season. The middle stretch of performances and results wasn't up to promotion standard or even play-offs standard. 5 wins on the bounce, 15 points, a load of goals and clean sheets later has reversed the slide and now we're looking up rather than down.
But if we don't go up the failure to get results or grind them out over that extended period will be one of the main reasons.
I'm not black and white on this and have much, much more praise than criticism for the team. But we also have to be realistic and balanced too when things aren't/weren't great. [Post edited 12 Mar 2023 14:04]
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| Can I defend myself on 14:11 - Mar 12 with 2638 views | Vic |
I’ve been a town fan since1971. Went to every European home game in our glory years and was obsessed with the team and club. Truth is that after the first few years of success we took it for granted, and several big games were not capacity crowds. In 1978 there were many calling for Robson to go! So I think we have to avoid wearing blue tinted glasses. After 1985 there was a sense of inevitability that our best days were behind us as a slow decline set in. Years of sub 10 attendances bear our out the loss of hope.
I wasn’t in the area in Burleys time so wasn’t part of it all.
I came back in 2005 and without a doubt the excitement and vibe now is as good as what I felt in the 70’s. Different league of opposition, but it’s all relative. We are where we are and when we get up to the championship we’ll have the same excitement if we’re challenging at the top as we do now. And when we get to the prem it won’t be any different - we won’t be more excited because we’re beating Man City than we are beating Bolton now. Let’s enjoy this and let’s hope for many more results like yesterday! |  |
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| Can I defend myself on 16:21 - Mar 12 with 2291 views | Wickets |
Fine with what you are saying but as a fan at least as long as you I still get exited at any win including Port Vale .  |  | | |
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