| Today's Budget 07:39 - Mar 15 with 5735 views | NeedhamChris |
Rumblings seem to be that the free childcare places might be extended to 1 and 2 year olds in the budget today.
With a first child due next week - this would be a really pleasant surprise so hope this does materialise.
By no means a Tory, but would welcome that immensely. Anyone else looking out for anything particular today?
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| Today's Budget on 07:42 - Mar 15 with 2854 views | Herbivore |
I'll be keeping an eye out for any stealthy tax breaks for the wealthy. |  |
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| Today's Budget on 07:47 - Mar 15 with 2818 views | Zapers |
| Today's Budget on 07:42 - Mar 15 by Herbivore |
I'll be keeping an eye out for any stealthy tax breaks for the wealthy. |
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| Today's Budget on 07:55 - Mar 15 with 2777 views | Herbivore |
| Today's Budget on 07:47 - Mar 15 by Zapers |
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Hoping to trouser a few quid extra, the kids' trust funds will barely cover a flat in Mayfair at the moment. Embarrassing really. | |
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| Today's Budget on 08:13 - Mar 15 with 2722 views | homer_123 |
Hope that wouldn't swing your vote to them though. |  |
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| Today's Budget on 08:18 - Mar 15 with 2706 views | Herbivore |
| Today's Budget on 08:13 - Mar 15 by homer_123 |
Hope that wouldn't swing your vote to them though. |
Especially as the motivation isn't remotely to help people, but to try and 'encourage' more mothers back into full time work at the earliest opportunity. The Tories' to nly solution to low productivity and poor economic growth is to try and grind more work out of us plebs. | |
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| Today's Budget on 08:19 - Mar 15 with 2707 views | NeedhamChris |
| Today's Budget on 08:13 - Mar 15 by homer_123 |
Hope that wouldn't swing your vote to them though. |
Nope, one right doesn't make up for endless wrongs.
However doesn't mean I wouldn't appreciate something that makes a real difference to whether we can both go back to work full time or not | |
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| Today's Budget on 08:30 - Mar 15 with 2676 views | clive_baker |
Selfishly it’s a choker as my youngest is nearly 3! Would’ve saved me in the region of £20k over the past 5 years.
Still, glad it will help others out. Childcare in the UK is ridiculously expensive. |  |
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| Today's Budget on 08:36 - Mar 15 with 2633 views | giant_stow |
| Today's Budget on 08:18 - Mar 15 by Herbivore |
Especially as the motivation isn't remotely to help people, but to try and 'encourage' more mothers back into full time work at the earliest opportunity. The Tories' to nly solution to low productivity and poor economic growth is to try and grind more work out of us plebs. |
That's a fair reading of such a policy, but not the only one - many stay at home parents* would love to work if it made sense to.
*is this just for stay at home mothers? They wouldn't do that would they?! Surely not. |  |
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| Today's Budget on 08:40 - Mar 15 with 2621 views | giant_stow |
| Today's Budget on 08:30 - Mar 15 by clive_baker |
Selfishly it’s a choker as my youngest is nearly 3! Would’ve saved me in the region of £20k over the past 5 years.
Still, glad it will help others out. Childcare in the UK is ridiculously expensive. |
I don't know how people afford it. Its a big part of why I work at home, given mrs ullaa teaches after school | |
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| Today's Budget on 08:47 - Mar 15 with 2597 views | clive_baker |
| Today's Budget on 08:40 - Mar 15 by giant_stow |
I don't know how people afford it. Its a big part of why I work at home, given mrs ullaa teaches after school |
It’s mad, crippling to many. Probably a good time to open a nursery if this comes in, I imagine places will be difficult to get. | |
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| Today's Budget on 08:48 - Mar 15 with 2593 views | davblue |
| Today's Budget on 08:30 - Mar 15 by clive_baker |
Selfishly it’s a choker as my youngest is nearly 3! Would’ve saved me in the region of £20k over the past 5 years.
Still, glad it will help others out. Childcare in the UK is ridiculously expensive. |
mine turned 3, 3 weeks ago!
She is in 2 days a week that costs over £700 a month. It's a lot of money but i don't begrudge them it, tough job. |  | | |
| Today's Budget on 08:49 - Mar 15 with 2558 views | Herbivore |
| Today's Budget on 08:36 - Mar 15 by giant_stow |
That's a fair reading of such a policy, but not the only one - many stay at home parents* would love to work if it made sense to.
*is this just for stay at home mothers? They wouldn't do that would they?! Surely not. |
My reading of it is the stated aim of the policy: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64959611
That it helps some people is a happy by product rather than the intention. It'll be interesting to see if they introduce disincentives for parents to stay at home in addition to this. | |
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| Today's Budget on 08:51 - Mar 15 with 2523 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Today's Budget on 07:42 - Mar 15 by Herbivore |
I'll be keeping an eye out for any stealthy tax breaks for the wealthy. |
They are supposedly increasing the tax free pension allowance to allow people to pay in 60k a year. That’s only going to benefit a small subset of wealthy people. | | | |
| Today's Budget on 08:52 - Mar 15 with 2518 views | J2BLUE |
It would be nice to see something for anyone on under 30k a year but not holding my breath.
Call me crazy but I would also like to see anyone on benefits get enough money to both heat and eat.
Three things I saw yesterday which just sums the Tories up at the moment:
1) Some knob on one of the politics shows telling a public sector worker most of them should forego any pay rise so they can target the poorest workers. Double digit inflation and they have the nerve to come out with things like that.
2) Some Tories (a significant number apparently) want £30bn in unexpected savings to be used to scrap the corporation tax increase. No doubt if they did the corporations would immediately share that good fortune with their staff right?  I have no idea how borrowing £30bn less is seen as a saving anyway but if you are going to spin it like that at least use it to help ordinary people.
3) It seems an open secret that this budget is going to give ordinary people next to nothing and it's a deliberate ploy. Let things continue badly now, save up the cash and then they can say the pain has passed and give plenty away before the next election. |  |
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| Today's Budget on 08:57 - Mar 15 with 2503 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
I might be out of line here (especially as I'm not a parent) but is that really the best use of limited public funds? Surely if you decide to have a child it's up to you to pay for it, not the rest of us? I'd rather that money went to paying doctors/nurses a decent wage, who benefit all of us. |  |
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| Today's Budget on 08:59 - Mar 15 with 2495 views | giant_stow |
| Today's Budget on 08:49 - Mar 15 by Herbivore |
My reading of it is the stated aim of the policy: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64959611
That it helps some people is a happy by product rather than the intention. It'll be interesting to see if they introduce disincentives for parents to stay at home in addition to this. |
fair enough although if the plebs want to go back to work, then its more of a win win, than happy by product.
You're right though - disincentives to stay at home would tip the scale more to your interpterion. | |
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| Today's Budget on 09:01 - Mar 15 with 2475 views | J2BLUE |
| Today's Budget on 08:57 - Mar 15 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I might be out of line here (especially as I'm not a parent) but is that really the best use of limited public funds? Surely if you decide to have a child it's up to you to pay for it, not the rest of us? I'd rather that money went to paying doctors/nurses a decent wage, who benefit all of us. |
I kind of sympathise, especially after previously working somewhere where the women used their kids to get constant special treatment but I don't mind this policy. Doctors and nurses will have kids who need looking after and the kids will be the ones paying our pensions. Unless the Tories find a way to kill us off before then. | |
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| Today's Budget on 09:04 - Mar 15 with 2459 views | giant_stow |
| Today's Budget on 08:57 - Mar 15 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I might be out of line here (especially as I'm not a parent) but is that really the best use of limited public funds? Surely if you decide to have a child it's up to you to pay for it, not the rest of us? I'd rather that money went to paying doctors/nurses a decent wage, who benefit all of us. |
Children don't just benefit their parents - society needs them. | |
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| Today's Budget on 09:05 - Mar 15 with 2455 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Today's Budget on 09:01 - Mar 15 by J2BLUE |
I kind of sympathise, especially after previously working somewhere where the women used their kids to get constant special treatment but I don't mind this policy. Doctors and nurses will have kids who need looking after and the kids will be the ones paying our pensions. Unless the Tories find a way to kill us off before then. |
But on that point (and maybe it already is) would it not be sensible to means test it? I mean then you have someone on 25k subsidising childcare for a doctor on 100k.
Edit- I recently saw a consultant who. Is charging £200 per appointment, I find it hard to find it equitable for me funding his childcare… [Post edited 15 Mar 2023 9:11]
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| Today's Budget on 09:12 - Mar 15 with 2420 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Today's Budget on 09:01 - Mar 15 by J2BLUE |
I kind of sympathise, especially after previously working somewhere where the women used their kids to get constant special treatment but I don't mind this policy. Doctors and nurses will have kids who need looking after and the kids will be the ones paying our pensions. Unless the Tories find a way to kill us off before then. |
Or the impending nuclear apocalypse. | |
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| Today's Budget on 09:15 - Mar 15 with 2405 views | giant_stow |
| Today's Budget on 09:05 - Mar 15 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
But on that point (and maybe it already is) would it not be sensible to means test it? I mean then you have someone on 25k subsidising childcare for a doctor on 100k.
Edit- I recently saw a consultant who. Is charging £200 per appointment, I find it hard to find it equitable for me funding his childcare… [Post edited 15 Mar 2023 9:11]
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You got a bargain - I paid £270 to see a dermatologist, who told me I had scabies! If you know anything about scabies, this was great news to bring back to mrs ullaa who immediately accused me of getting up to no good on the side.
It wasn't fcking scabies - 270 to find that out and a nice row to boot. | |
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| Today's Budget on 09:16 - Mar 15 with 2397 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Today's Budget on 09:04 - Mar 15 by giant_stow |
Children don't just benefit their parents - society needs them. |
I didn't say children benefit their parents.
Yes society needs them, but there's not exactly a shortage.
I'm not against helping parents I just think in these times there are better uses of the money than free childcare. I mean ideally we wouldn't have fecked the country up so much that we need to pick and choose. And when I say we I mean the Tories. | |
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| Today's Budget on 09:19 - Mar 15 with 2367 views | giant_stow |
| Today's Budget on 09:16 - Mar 15 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I didn't say children benefit their parents.
Yes society needs them, but there's not exactly a shortage.
I'm not against helping parents I just think in these times there are better uses of the money than free childcare. I mean ideally we wouldn't have fecked the country up so much that we need to pick and choose. And when I say we I mean the Tories. |
I was answering this point really: "Surely if you decide to have a child it's up to you to pay for it, not the rest of us?" The rest of us have an interest in rearing children well and yes, enough of them. We're an aging society, so yes in a way, there is a shortage - we need more young people. | |
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| Today's Budget on 09:28 - Mar 15 with 2311 views | usm |
Easy Tiger
You cant say anything positive about the Tories on here
Phil'll get his Banhammer out
Just watch |  |
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| Today's Budget on 09:41 - Mar 15 with 2254 views | Pinewoodblue |
Back in the day the contents of the budget were never leaked in advance yet these days very little comes as a surprise.
Personally I will be more interested in the oppositions response. Think most of us agree they couldn’t do any worse than the current bunch but it is time to start telling us how things are going to be better.
It is time to say why we should have a Labour government rather than why we shouldn’t have a Tory one. |  |
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