| Can i just confirm.. 17:19 - Aug 1 with 6576 views | FromReuserWithLove |
I just want to confirm with all of you on here that Liam Gibbs is a filthy little snake of the highest order? Hope Morsy years into the little sh1t.
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| Can i just confirm.. on 17:31 - Aug 1 with 5536 views | TalkingBlues |
He was a player with high future potential and we offered him a deal that was a fair bit worse than other suitors, no story here really, just better offers. |  |
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| Can i just confirm.. on 17:32 - Aug 1 with 5538 views | Steve_M |
Or alternately, the club managed to make a complete mess of keeping a promising young player? |  |
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| Can i just confirm.. on 17:35 - Aug 1 with 5503 views | homer_123 |
| Can i just confirm.. on 17:32 - Aug 1 by Steve_M |
Or alternately, the club managed to make a complete mess of keeping a promising young player? |
Doesn't fit the narrative Steve! |  |
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| Can i just confirm.. on 17:37 - Aug 1 with 5468 views | SitfcB |
| Can i just confirm.. on 17:32 - Aug 1 by Steve_M |
Or alternately, the club managed to make a complete mess of keeping a promising young player? |
Was offered a deal wasn’t he? |  |
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| Can i just confirm.. on 17:40 - Aug 1 with 5446 views | jayessess |
| Can i just confirm.. on 17:32 - Aug 1 by Steve_M |
Or alternately, the club managed to make a complete mess of keeping a promising young player? |
There isn't necessarily any contradiction between believing
(a) the club messed up
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(b) I'll despise any footballer that leaves us for them for the rest of time |  |
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| Can i just confirm.. on 17:40 - Aug 1 with 5442 views | the_toff |
| Can i just confirm.. on 17:32 - Aug 1 by Steve_M |
Or alternately, the club managed to make a complete mess of keeping a promising young player? |
Boring though innit. We need a panto villain. |  | | |
| Can i just confirm.. on 17:44 - Aug 1 with 5370 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| Can i just confirm.. on 17:40 - Aug 1 by the_toff |
Boring though innit. We need a panto villain. |
He joined Norwich! How in the world of football is this acceptable? | | | |
| Can i just confirm.. on 18:19 - Aug 1 with 5101 views | HighgateBlue |
Have you been binge-watching old episodes of ITFC? If so, just watch a little bit longer, and you'll have something to smile about.
The zeitgeist is very much "pleased with our current situation and excited for the forthcoming season" rather than "Liam Gibbs-related bile production factory". |  | | |
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| Can i just confirm.. on 18:40 - Aug 1 with 4986 views | Sharkey |
It's an amazingly long contract extension he's just signed. (5 years)
Speaking of Norwich, on NTTT podcast League 2 edition it said that Accrington have signed two Norwich central defenders on loan, -and that they've played together since they were nine! (Hills and Shipley) Remarkable if they manage to become Stanley's first-choice pairing. They're nineteen. |  | | |
| Can i just confirm.. on 07:11 - Aug 2 with 4362 views | BcarefulwhatUWish4 |
Was he originally a Town fan or a Norwich fan? (I can't remember) |  | | |
| Can i just confirm.. on 07:21 - Aug 2 with 4306 views | tractorboy1978 |
Looking the right choice for him though. 34 appearances in the Championship under his belt last season, new 5 year deal on decent money I'd assume. I'd wager he will get more games there than Humphreys will here this season. | | | |
| Can i just confirm.. on 07:41 - Aug 2 with 4222 views | Westcountryblue |
| Can i just confirm.. on 17:31 - Aug 1 by TalkingBlues |
He was a player with high future potential and we offered him a deal that was a fair bit worse than other suitors, no story here really, just better offers. |
I tend to disagree. He'd been with the club since the age of 8 (that's a hell of a lot of free coaching) and had been given first team game time and a clear pathway, making his debut vs Charlton. Pretty poor form to leave your hometown club during it's darkest hour and move to it's oldest rival. The wages that were offered weren't fantastic, but on par to other players of a similar age at the club...which is fine in my book, as you'd like to think a footballer should rack up 20-30 first team appearances before signing a bumper deal.
I think the cheapskate nature of Marcus Evan's led to younger players at the club (regardless of how ready they were) almost expecting first team football immediately. Bishop (whose body we ruined throwing him into the Championship during a growth spurt), Dozzell, Nydam, Morris, Simpson, Gibbs either weren't physical ready or mentally ready to play first team football at a big club like Ipswich, with expectations of a top 2 or top 6 finish. It goes without saying the intensity of first team football and the pressure it puts on a growing body, is significantly higher than development football. Was it really fair to chuck a stick thin Andre Dozzell onto the pitch at 16 years old? 100% not !
The way we are managing players like El Miz, Humphreys and Baggott is lightyears better than the generation we mercilessly thrust into the first team. [Post edited 2 Aug 2023 7:43]
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| Can i just confirm.. on 07:50 - Aug 2 with 4179 views | ElephantintheRoom |
You have just confirmed everything that is bad about blindly following franchise football | |
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| Can i just confirm.. on 07:59 - Aug 2 with 4113 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Can i just confirm.. on 07:41 - Aug 2 by Westcountryblue |
I tend to disagree. He'd been with the club since the age of 8 (that's a hell of a lot of free coaching) and had been given first team game time and a clear pathway, making his debut vs Charlton. Pretty poor form to leave your hometown club during it's darkest hour and move to it's oldest rival. The wages that were offered weren't fantastic, but on par to other players of a similar age at the club...which is fine in my book, as you'd like to think a footballer should rack up 20-30 first team appearances before signing a bumper deal.
I think the cheapskate nature of Marcus Evan's led to younger players at the club (regardless of how ready they were) almost expecting first team football immediately. Bishop (whose body we ruined throwing him into the Championship during a growth spurt), Dozzell, Nydam, Morris, Simpson, Gibbs either weren't physical ready or mentally ready to play first team football at a big club like Ipswich, with expectations of a top 2 or top 6 finish. It goes without saying the intensity of first team football and the pressure it puts on a growing body, is significantly higher than development football. Was it really fair to chuck a stick thin Andre Dozzell onto the pitch at 16 years old? 100% not !
The way we are managing players like El Miz, Humphreys and Baggott is lightyears better than the generation we mercilessly thrust into the first team. [Post edited 2 Aug 2023 7:43]
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Really pushing it to say he had a clear pathway, he played a token game out of nowhere under Lambert at a time when he'd totally lost the plot and was trying to prove a point.
His new contract became a bit of an after thought just after the takeover by all accounts and at that point he was well off getting into our first team. He's ended up getting more game time in the Championship for Norwich than he would have here last season in L1. | | | |
| Can i just confirm.. on 08:20 - Aug 2 with 3991 views | portmanking |
| Can i just confirm.. on 07:50 - Aug 2 by ElephantintheRoom |
You have just confirmed everything that is bad about blindly following franchise football |
FOYSC. | | | |
| Can i just confirm.. on 08:22 - Aug 2 with 3979 views | cressi |
| Can i just confirm.. on 07:59 - Aug 2 by tractorboy1978 |
Really pushing it to say he had a clear pathway, he played a token game out of nowhere under Lambert at a time when he'd totally lost the plot and was trying to prove a point.
His new contract became a bit of an after thought just after the takeover by all accounts and at that point he was well off getting into our first team. He's ended up getting more game time in the Championship for Norwich than he would have here last season in L1. |
Who cares left a big club who had just been taken over if game changer had arrived 12 months earlier may not of happened . Now unless he proves his worth and gets a move his stuck at a tin pot club who in the future will get in freebies youngsters who may do it , or loans bit like the Evans era , | | | |
| Can i just confirm.. on 08:35 - Aug 2 with 3916 views | JimmyJazz |
| Can i just confirm.. on 18:40 - Aug 1 by Sharkey |
It's an amazingly long contract extension he's just signed. (5 years)
Speaking of Norwich, on NTTT podcast League 2 edition it said that Accrington have signed two Norwich central defenders on loan, -and that they've played together since they were nine! (Hills and Shipley) Remarkable if they manage to become Stanley's first-choice pairing. They're nineteen. |
I may be wrong, but isn't Hills a goalkeeper? |  |
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| Can i just confirm.. on 08:44 - Aug 2 with 3865 views | Sharkey |
| Can i just confirm.. on 08:35 - Aug 2 by JimmyJazz |
I may be wrong, but isn't Hills a goalkeeper? |
They may have another Hills, but Bradley Hills is definitely a central defender. | | | |
| Can i just confirm.. on 08:49 - Aug 2 with 3831 views | TractorCam |
| Can i just confirm.. on 07:11 - Aug 2 by BcarefulwhatUWish4 |
Was he originally a Town fan or a Norwich fan? (I can't remember) |
Neither. |  |
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| Can i just confirm.. on 09:02 - Aug 2 with 3719 views | Sharkey |
I wonder where Albie Armin is going to play next. (Maybe he's already signed, and I've missed it.) | | | |
| Can i just confirm.. on 09:07 - Aug 2 with 3678 views | JimmyJazz |
| Can i just confirm.. on 08:44 - Aug 2 by Sharkey |
They may have another Hills, but Bradley Hills is definitely a central defender. |
Thought I might be wrong  | |
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| Can i just confirm.. on 09:08 - Aug 2 with 3656 views | BiGDonnie |
Haha, someone reported as abuse. |  |
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| Can i just confirm.. on 09:16 - Aug 2 with 3617 views | itfcjoe |
| Can i just confirm.. on 07:41 - Aug 2 by Westcountryblue |
I tend to disagree. He'd been with the club since the age of 8 (that's a hell of a lot of free coaching) and had been given first team game time and a clear pathway, making his debut vs Charlton. Pretty poor form to leave your hometown club during it's darkest hour and move to it's oldest rival. The wages that were offered weren't fantastic, but on par to other players of a similar age at the club...which is fine in my book, as you'd like to think a footballer should rack up 20-30 first team appearances before signing a bumper deal.
I think the cheapskate nature of Marcus Evan's led to younger players at the club (regardless of how ready they were) almost expecting first team football immediately. Bishop (whose body we ruined throwing him into the Championship during a growth spurt), Dozzell, Nydam, Morris, Simpson, Gibbs either weren't physical ready or mentally ready to play first team football at a big club like Ipswich, with expectations of a top 2 or top 6 finish. It goes without saying the intensity of first team football and the pressure it puts on a growing body, is significantly higher than development football. Was it really fair to chuck a stick thin Andre Dozzell onto the pitch at 16 years old? 100% not !
The way we are managing players like El Miz, Humphreys and Baggott is lightyears better than the generation we mercilessly thrust into the first team. [Post edited 2 Aug 2023 7:43]
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It's not 'free coaching', it's an investment from the club in the commodity that are kids footballers in the hope of a return in regards to making a return with regards to first team appearances or a fee.
Gibbs didn't have a path to first team, he played one game, having not trained with the first team that week, and then went back to the 21s afterwards.
He was offered a contract, not up to the value of his peers in December, rejected it, and then didn't hear from the club until the day before his contract was up.
It was lost amongst all the carnage going on, but he didn't move during it's darkest hour, he moved post takeover when the club were chucking money around left, right and centre |  |
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| Can i just confirm.. on 09:28 - Aug 2 with 3536 views | Swansea_Blue |
Football's a business. There's never a thought spared for all those scholars we release, so I don't see why some people have to go into a meltdown when someone is let go who in hindsight we should have kept. And it doesn't matter where he went - it's his job. He's going to want to play for the club that (a) gives him a chance to play at as high a level as possible and (b) offers him the best deal.
Or are we going to start burning effigies of Clive Woods, Trevor Putney and Alan Lee next? |  |
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| Can i just confirm.. on 09:45 - Aug 2 with 3472 views | HARRY10 |
Basically it was leaving a CAT 2 club for a CAT 1 club. We have not really developed many players, even for L1 standard. Our last keeper was Price/Supple 18 years ago. How many of this years squad will have come through our academy ? | | | |
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