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‘Premier League’ ref on Friday on 13:53 - Oct 17 by itfcsuth
Well, nobody knows what he actually said.
Good ref. Remember his Mic Up before he came to England.
I think all refs should be mic'd up like this and fans allowed to hear decision-making. It'd also highlight the potty-mouthed players, forcing them to clean up their acts. Would provide full transparency, especially if we're doubling-down on the era of VAR.
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‘Premier League’ ref on Friday on 14:20 - Oct 17 with 2798 views
I can understand the Sunderland frustration, but given the ref has warned them about gesticulation etc, I don't think its that unreasonable. Its just the fact that he's already on a yellow, so it might be a cheap one, but the player needs to think about this. Mowbray uses "emotion" as an excuse, but I don't think that's valid. We want refs to get more respect, that means players need to calm down. No one ever takes 5 seconds to calm down and then abuses the ref, its ALWAYS done in the heat of the moment. This sort of crackdown will result in some cheap sendings off and bookings, but generally, that's the only way that these messages get through.
‘Premier League’ ref on Friday on 14:15 - Oct 17 by portmanking
I think all refs should be mic'd up like this and fans allowed to hear decision-making. It'd also highlight the potty-mouthed players, forcing them to clean up their acts. Would provide full transparency, especially if we're doubling-down on the era of VAR.
Loads of people say they don't want VAR in the Championship. But the some of these people will be very quick to insult referees for the bad decisions.
Unfortunately I think VAR will be needed at this level rather sooner than later to stop abuses towards the referees. They aren't perfect and mistakes are always bound to happen.
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‘Premier League’ ref on Friday on 14:33 - Oct 17 with 2710 views
‘Premier League’ ref on Friday on 14:26 - Oct 17 by Mach_foreignBlue
Loads of people say they don't want VAR in the Championship. But the some of these people will be very quick to insult referees for the bad decisions.
Unfortunately I think VAR will be needed at this level rather sooner than later to stop abuses towards the referees. They aren't perfect and mistakes are always bound to happen.
If the supposed elite officials can't get VAR to function properly and to improve the game then it would be a car crash in the EFL. Keith Stroud on VAR gives me shivers.
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‘Premier League’ ref on Friday on 14:38 - Oct 17 with 2680 views
‘Premier League’ ref on Friday on 14:33 - Oct 17 by tractorboy1978
If the supposed elite officials can't get VAR to function properly and to improve the game then it would be a car crash in the EFL. Keith Stroud on VAR gives me shivers.
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That's another good point. The concept of VAR is fine and it's people who are running it that is a problem. Liverpool goal against Tottenham for example.
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‘Premier League’ ref on Friday on 15:21 - Oct 17 with 2589 views
‘Premier League’ ref on Friday on 14:20 - Oct 17 by SaleAway
I can understand the Sunderland frustration, but given the ref has warned them about gesticulation etc, I don't think its that unreasonable. Its just the fact that he's already on a yellow, so it might be a cheap one, but the player needs to think about this. Mowbray uses "emotion" as an excuse, but I don't think that's valid. We want refs to get more respect, that means players need to calm down. No one ever takes 5 seconds to calm down and then abuses the ref, its ALWAYS done in the heat of the moment. This sort of crackdown will result in some cheap sendings off and bookings, but generally, that's the only way that these messages get through.
Absolutely. He gave him a yellow. If the player hadn't already got a yellow, this would not be headline news. It's not the ref's fault that the player had already done something to earn himself a yellow. And most of us hate the ridiculous amount of dissent, argument and crowding round officials in football, which is far worse than in any other sport I can think of. The only way to stop dissent is to inflict some form of consequence. Just as a player on a yellow card needs to be very careful how he tackles, he also needs to be careful how much he's mouthing off.
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‘Premier League’ ref on Friday on 16:09 - Oct 17 with 2475 views
My brother was speaking to referee assessor recently who believes that Prem refs dropping down to the Championship have worse games than when they are in the Prem. This is because they have become used to having VAR and are less likely to make a decision in the moment expecting VAR to be there as a safety net.
‘Premier League’ ref on Friday on 16:09 - Oct 17 by SheffordBlue
My brother was speaking to referee assessor recently who believes that Prem refs dropping down to the Championship have worse games than when they are in the Prem. This is because they have become used to having VAR and are less likely to make a decision in the moment expecting VAR to be there as a safety net.
Understandable and predictable.
The art and skill of refereeing is slowly becoming obsolete. We might as well get the robots to control the games and be done with it.
The next thing will be putting a microphone on them, which is another bad idea, but they'll do it.
‘Premier League’ ref on Friday on 14:38 - Oct 17 by Mach_foreignBlue
That's another good point. The concept of VAR is fine and it's people who are running it that is a problem. Liverpool goal against Tottenham for example.
And yet, having said that, before or without VAR how many countless thousands of goals have been chalked off or allowed to stand when they shouldn't have been. By definition they can't be re-inspected now, but if they could, then the unfairness to Liverpool would be matched by a story (or stories) from every other club.
I know that this issue is more important because it's now, and because finance features so much more prominently. But because noises-off are relentless in today's media-saturated world, is there a worse danger that the down-with-VAR voices might get what they want. Just think of our Internet clamour if suddenly every match was like the Championship, with disputed goals no longer subject to VAR. Some purists might long for the day, but the accompanying row would make the current media arguments seem pale in comparison.
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