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The wealthy will always be primarily concerned with how they can protect their position and continue to grow their wealth by fair means or foul. Just one of the many reasons we should not allow such wild inequality to exist, it corrupts those at the top as thoroughly as it impoverishes those at the bottom.
I see Baroness Mone is pleading her innocence on 09:12 - Dec 11 by Herbivore
The wealthy will always be primarily concerned with how they can protect their position and continue to grow their wealth by fair means or foul. Just one of the many reasons we should not allow such wild inequality to exist, it corrupts those at the top as thoroughly as it impoverishes those at the bottom.
Sadly, neither main party has any real intention of doing anything about this
By way of example, a top rate council tax band of £1824.10 in Westminister is scandalous given the average house price in the borough for the year to October 2023 was £1,780,884, according to Rightmove. If nothing else, increasing the top rate bands would appear to me to be an easy target, but Labour just doesn't seem to want to go there.
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I see Baroness Mone is pleading her innocence on 09:39 - Dec 11 with 3093 views
I see Baroness Mone is pleading her innocence on 09:27 - Dec 11 by DJR
Sadly, neither main party has any real intention of doing anything about this
By way of example, a top rate council tax band of £1824.10 in Westminister is scandalous given the average house price in the borough for the year to October 2023 was £1,780,884, according to Rightmove. If nothing else, increasing the top rate bands would appear to me to be an easy target, but Labour just doesn't seem to want to go there.
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Labour does want to go after people who benefitted from CoVid fraud, not that that relates to your point here
It's the valuations office who calculate tax band prices, that does seem awfully low though, that's way lower than what we pay in Ipswich!
Council Tax 2023-24
Band A £1,436.46 Band B £1,675.87 Band C £1,915.28 Band D £2,154.69 Band E £2,633.51 Band F £3,112.33 Band G £3,591.15 Band H £4,309.38
Alcohol is the answer but I can't remember the question!
Assuming is not made up a rather succinct summary. Apologising for getting caught is no apology, as other posters rightly have said.
Asked in the documentary if she made any financial gain through her ties to PPE Medpro, Mone said: “What my husband decided to do after the event, and who benefits from that, is at his discretion. I am his wife and I may indirectly benefit, but that’s just like all other families.”
As it is, Mrs Thatcher managed to replace a progressive tax (rates) with a more regressive and unfair tax (council tax). But I suppose we can be grateful that the poll tax (even more regressive) didn't survive.
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I see Baroness Mone is pleading her innocence on 12:02 - Dec 11 with 2896 views
Anyone watch the LC show on Sunday . Gove was on it, stating that Government contracts weren't dished out to mates. Do me a favour. Why for instance were fledgeling Companies who all of a sudden appeared given Government contracts to procure PPE when established Companies were bypassed ? One reason we are all paying the highest taxes ever because the Tories wasted billions.
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I see Baroness Mone is pleading her innocence on 19:34 - Dec 11 with 2755 views
As it is, Mrs Thatcher managed to replace a progressive tax (rates) with a more regressive and unfair tax (council tax). But I suppose we can be grateful that the poll tax (even more regressive) didn't survive.
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Whatever formula the valuations office calculate, it's madness that Westminster is so much cheaper than Ipswich as an example
How on earth do they get away with that one?
Alcohol is the answer but I can't remember the question!
I see Baroness Mone is pleading her innocence on 12:02 - Dec 11 by OldFart71
Anyone watch the LC show on Sunday . Gove was on it, stating that Government contracts weren't dished out to mates. Do me a favour. Why for instance were fledgeling Companies who all of a sudden appeared given Government contracts to procure PPE when established Companies were bypassed ? One reason we are all paying the highest taxes ever because the Tories wasted billions.
Yep. If Gove told me I was on fire, I’d make sure to ask someone else before doing anything about it. He’s one of the most duplicitous of the lot of them, which is saying something. I’ve never understood the praise he gets. Seemingly because he doesn’t bully those under him and he actually turns up, that makes him good in some people’s eyes. He’s a scheming little shi*weasel who’s caused havoc. Education is in a right mess largely because of him. And now they’re free of the shackles of EU regulation, were started to see the real him come out in environmental thinking (e.g. the recent debacle over ignoring the extra sewage generated from housing developments).
I see Baroness Mone is pleading her innocence on 21:57 - Dec 11 by Swansea_Blue
Yep. If Gove told me I was on fire, I’d make sure to ask someone else before doing anything about it. He’s one of the most duplicitous of the lot of them, which is saying something. I’ve never understood the praise he gets. Seemingly because he doesn’t bully those under him and he actually turns up, that makes him good in some people’s eyes. He’s a scheming little shi*weasel who’s caused havoc. Education is in a right mess largely because of him. And now they’re free of the shackles of EU regulation, were started to see the real him come out in environmental thinking (e.g. the recent debacle over ignoring the extra sewage generated from housing developments).
I think he now fancies that once the Tories have finished eating themselves alive he might be the only one left standing. Interesting yesterday seeing all the different tory factions releasing statements about the Rwanda bill as though they aren't all meant to be part of a functioning government 🤦
I see Baroness Mone is pleading her innocence on 12:02 - Dec 11 by OldFart71
Anyone watch the LC show on Sunday . Gove was on it, stating that Government contracts weren't dished out to mates. Do me a favour. Why for instance were fledgeling Companies who all of a sudden appeared given Government contracts to procure PPE when established Companies were bypassed ? One reason we are all paying the highest taxes ever because the Tories wasted billions.
I didn't see the show (but didn't need to). I work in the NHS and was part of our Trust's innovations and creations" committee, evaluating the weird and wonderful products and inventions that were arriving daily at our goods in department during Covid. Because the government couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, Trusts were left to evaluate products themselves, and it was clear that most of the things being sent to us, including most form the government supplies, were totally unfit for purpose.
But the bigger question is "Where did all the money go?" All capitalist governments are guilty but none have been anywhere near as bad as this lot. All you need to do is look around at how many billionaires and multi-millionaires we have now. The country is in a shocking state - total lack of funding for hospitals, schools, and all public services. The railways are totally under-invested, water and sewage infrastructure is broken, roads are shocking, Town and city centres as we knew them are now becoming havens for £1 shops and betting shops. Why? Because the government has a dogmatic belief that smart people just get everything they possibly can, including evasion, cheating and lying, out of "the system", and it is stupid people who do a fair day's work. That ideology is exemplified by the ministers themselves who used Covid as a means to get themselves and their buddies rich at the expense of ordinary working people. In total, billions upon countless billions have gone to undeserving cheats and frauds, and the country is now in a total mess because of it. I can't see Labour having the guts to prosecute many of the culprits.....
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