| Out of Character 18:39 - Jul 23 with 2890 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
When people have been caught misbehaving we sometimes hear that their action was 'out of character'.
Does anyone else hear that and think "No it wasn't. If it was out of character you wouldn't have done it". |  |
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| Out of Character on 18:47 - Jul 23 with 2562 views | Pendejo |
All the time.
See also; someone gets executed with a double tap to the head and the most damming it gets is "loveable rogue", erm if someone's on the receiving end of that...
I mean no-one bad ever seems to get murdered. |  |
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| Out of Character on 18:54 - Jul 23 with 2536 views | textbackup |
Yes and no.
People can have a single moment of madness and totally regret it the rest of their lives. I’d say 9/10 that could be when someone is pissed. So moral of story, don’t get hammered and you’ll not cloud judgement |  |
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| Out of Character on 18:59 - Jul 23 with 2511 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| Out of Character on 18:54 - Jul 23 by textbackup |
Yes and no.
People can have a single moment of madness and totally regret it the rest of their lives. I’d say 9/10 that could be when someone is pissed. So moral of story, don’t get hammered and you’ll not cloud judgement |
Is that the case? Do people behave 'out of character' when they are drunk or is it in character but they are less inhibited? | |
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| Out of Character on 19:01 - Jul 23 with 2497 views | J2BLUE |
| Out of Character on 18:59 - Jul 23 by Tangledupin_Blue |
Is that the case? Do people behave 'out of character' when they are drunk or is it in character but they are less inhibited? |
You've answered your own question there.
It's out of character for the character they have presented to the world. |  |
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| Out of Character on 19:13 - Jul 23 with 2438 views | Buhrer |
True. "Errors of judgement".
But how do we let people, including ourselves, distance themselves from poor behaviour and do better in future? |  | | |
| Out of Character on 19:35 - Jul 23 with 2324 views | Freddies_Ears |
| Out of Character on 19:01 - Jul 23 by J2BLUE |
You've answered your own question there.
It's out of character for the character they have presented to the world. |
Spot on. Most of my friends would be appalled by the worst of me, but luckily that worst comes to the fore very, very rarely. In character, sadly, but not in character for the way I am understood (luckily!!!) |  | | |
| Out of Character on 19:38 - Jul 23 with 2308 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Out of Character on 18:59 - Jul 23 by Tangledupin_Blue |
Is that the case? Do people behave 'out of character' when they are drunk or is it in character but they are less inhibited? |
I think drugs (like alcohol) can definately make you more suseptable to suggestions and peer pressure. I read the other day that someone gave a confession to a murder they didn't commit in the US because the police used drugs on the person. I'm sure in this light we would all think, of course that was out of character for them to admit to a murder they never committed under forced intoxiation.
I think the difference in our trust of that person being in or out of character is down to the whether they are victim or the wrongdoer.
If it is a point worth exploring I would consider what they did, whether it is a repeatable pattern of behaviour, and how realistic would it be that taking that action would take be masked by drugs.
So, no one size fits all answer, (imo of course). |  |
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| Out of Character on 19:38 - Jul 23 with 2307 views | MattinLondon |
| Out of Character on 18:47 - Jul 23 by Pendejo |
All the time.
See also; someone gets executed with a double tap to the head and the most damming it gets is "loveable rogue", erm if someone's on the receiving end of that...
I mean no-one bad ever seems to get murdered. |
Sometimes when someone gets badly beaten up their mother defends them with the phrase ‘he’s no angel’, which means he’s a violent prick. |  | | |
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| Out of Character on 19:55 - Jul 23 with 2250 views | textbackup |
| Out of Character on 19:38 - Jul 23 by MattinLondon |
Sometimes when someone gets badly beaten up their mother defends them with the phrase ‘he’s no angel’, which means he’s a violent prick. |
Or it could mean he’s simply a bit of a pain in the arse but not violent in any way. | |
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| Out of Character on 20:10 - Jul 23 with 2192 views | Churchman |
Yes. The other one is ‘it’s the first time he’s ever done anything like this’. No it isn’t. It’s the first time the toerag has been caught more like. There are no excuses.
People always act within character. If they go bananas when boozed up, that’s part of their character - a friend of mine was like that back in the day. Mild and kind sober, aggressive after five beers. [Post edited 24 Jul 2024 7:31]
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| Out of Character on 20:18 - Jul 23 with 2170 views | WD19 |
Many of us will have done things we are not proud of in our lives.
And many of us will still climb in and judge others when they have such a moment.
Which in itself is not something to be proud of. |  | | |
| Out of Character on 21:29 - Jul 23 with 2077 views | Bigalhunter |
Just watching the news, I see equestrian Olympian Charlotte Dujardin has been filmed whipping a horse that wasn’t dancing as she wanted it to, and subsequently claiming it was ‘an error of judgement’
Is that the same as ‘out of character’ or just an admission that she behaved as she always does but just f*c*ed up by doing it whilst someone was filming.
Further proof that these individuals are merely self-centred people who see a horse as nothing more than a vessel to fame, wealth and acclaim, however much they proclaim their love and concern for the welfare of these poor creatures.. [Post edited 23 Jul 2024 21:33]
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| Out of Character on 22:17 - Jul 23 with 1994 views | RIPbobby |
| Out of Character on 19:55 - Jul 23 by textbackup |
Or it could mean he’s simply a bit of a pain in the arse but not violent in any way. |
This is a pretty well debated controversial topic. Well done to all. That's a good read. |  | | |
| Out of Character on 22:24 - Jul 23 with 1973 views | Freddies_Ears |
| Out of Character on 21:29 - Jul 23 by Bigalhunter |
Just watching the news, I see equestrian Olympian Charlotte Dujardin has been filmed whipping a horse that wasn’t dancing as she wanted it to, and subsequently claiming it was ‘an error of judgement’
Is that the same as ‘out of character’ or just an admission that she behaved as she always does but just f*c*ed up by doing it whilst someone was filming.
Further proof that these individuals are merely self-centred people who see a horse as nothing more than a vessel to fame, wealth and acclaim, however much they proclaim their love and concern for the welfare of these poor creatures.. [Post edited 23 Jul 2024 21:33]
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I have witnessed an internationally-acclaimed dressage rider beat a horse horribly, out of sheer temper, as it wouldn't submit to her demands as she rode it in a lesson..
I have seen the same horse respond beautifully to a different, internationally- acclaimed rider, as he rode it sensitively and positively, in a lesson.
Sorry, no names, but if you know the sport, you'd know the names.
I am so upset to read of this news tonight. Shame it took 4 years to come out. | | | |
| Out of Character on 22:50 - Jul 23 with 1931 views | eireblue |
| Out of Character on 20:18 - Jul 23 by WD19 |
Many of us will have done things we are not proud of in our lives.
And many of us will still climb in and judge others when they have such a moment.
Which in itself is not something to be proud of. |
Sure, but plenty will admit when they are wrong, and take steps to change, and not use words and framing an act as something separate from themselves.
Losing your temper and getting violent, is not out of character, it is part of your character.
Admit you lost your temper, accept that you have the capability to turn violent, and did turn violent, take steps to improve.
I interpreted the OP as making a judgement not on what someone has done, but how some people explain it away. |  | | |
| Out of Character on 22:52 - Jul 23 with 1927 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Out of Character on 19:55 - Jul 23 by textbackup |
Or it could mean he’s simply a bit of a pain in the arse but not violent in any way. |
9 times out of 10 they do have a string of convictions for battery, are missing their front teeth and have NF tattoos all over their face though! |  |
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| Out of Character on 22:58 - Jul 23 with 1919 views | Bigalhunter |
| Out of Character on 22:24 - Jul 23 by Freddies_Ears |
I have witnessed an internationally-acclaimed dressage rider beat a horse horribly, out of sheer temper, as it wouldn't submit to her demands as she rode it in a lesson..
I have seen the same horse respond beautifully to a different, internationally- acclaimed rider, as he rode it sensitively and positively, in a lesson.
Sorry, no names, but if you know the sport, you'd know the names.
I am so upset to read of this news tonight. Shame it took 4 years to come out. |
I’m quite delighted it has come out, for maximum impact, on the eve of the Olympics.
It has taught her that cruelty has consequence at a time when her ruthless and heartless ambition would be at its highest.
It has hopefully deprived her, at the very last minute, that which she craves most, that single Olympic medal to overtake Laura Kenny as the greatest British female Olympian.
Her only hope now is that Kenny has a medal revoked if footage emerges of her mercilessly beating her bike with a tree branch during training in 2012… | |
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| Out of Character on 23:32 - Jul 23 with 1891 views | MattinLondon |
| Out of Character on 22:58 - Jul 23 by Bigalhunter |
I’m quite delighted it has come out, for maximum impact, on the eve of the Olympics.
It has taught her that cruelty has consequence at a time when her ruthless and heartless ambition would be at its highest.
It has hopefully deprived her, at the very last minute, that which she craves most, that single Olympic medal to overtake Laura Kenny as the greatest British female Olympian.
Her only hope now is that Kenny has a medal revoked if footage emerges of her mercilessly beating her bike with a tree branch during training in 2012… |
Am I right in thinking that someone had footage of that incident for four years but chose not to do anything with it until close to the start of the Olympics? So that person probably didn’t give a damn about the horse but made the footage known as they probably didn’t like the rider? | | | |
| Out of Character on 23:43 - Jul 23 with 1849 views | Bigalhunter |
| Out of Character on 23:32 - Jul 23 by MattinLondon |
Am I right in thinking that someone had footage of that incident for four years but chose not to do anything with it until close to the start of the Olympics? So that person probably didn’t give a damn about the horse but made the footage known as they probably didn’t like the rider? |
Definitely timed for maximum impact and damage to her.
I hadn’t heard of her until a week ago, when the BBC started to ramp up its 4 yearly hysteria and faux patriotism in sports no one gives a toss about for all but 2 weeks every fourth summer. | |
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| Out of Character on 23:45 - Jul 23 with 1842 views | quirkie |
| Out of Character on 23:32 - Jul 23 by MattinLondon |
Am I right in thinking that someone had footage of that incident for four years but chose not to do anything with it until close to the start of the Olympics? So that person probably didn’t give a damn about the horse but made the footage known as they probably didn’t like the rider? |
Revenge is a dish best served cold seems very apt here.
Seems obvious now, but getting horses to dance like they do in Dressage, there has to be an element of abuse in it.
I wonder how deep it goes, things we'll never hear about.
Any dressage aficionados care to enlighten further? |  |
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| Out of Character on 07:33 - Jul 24 with 1642 views | eireblue |
| Out of Character on 23:45 - Jul 23 by quirkie |
Revenge is a dish best served cold seems very apt here.
Seems obvious now, but getting horses to dance like they do in Dressage, there has to be an element of abuse in it.
I wonder how deep it goes, things we'll never hear about.
Any dressage aficionados care to enlighten further? |
I think the usual thing to say is, it is something horses do in the wild, they really enjoy it, and someone that weighs 70kg can’t force a horse that weighs 700 kg to do something don’t want to.
Hmmmm…… | | | |
| Out of Character on 07:51 - Jul 24 with 1591 views | Churchman |
| Out of Character on 22:58 - Jul 23 by Bigalhunter |
I’m quite delighted it has come out, for maximum impact, on the eve of the Olympics.
It has taught her that cruelty has consequence at a time when her ruthless and heartless ambition would be at its highest.
It has hopefully deprived her, at the very last minute, that which she craves most, that single Olympic medal to overtake Laura Kenny as the greatest British female Olympian.
Her only hope now is that Kenny has a medal revoked if footage emerges of her mercilessly beating her bike with a tree branch during training in 2012… |
I don’t believe it will have taught her anything. My guess is she’ll be enraged for being caught and filled with hate towards those who blew the whistle.
Anyone who is cruel to animals like that in the first place has no sense of decency, right and wrong or even a soul (an extreme view, but it’s how I see it). She does though have a sense of her own self importance, ambition and privilege.
I’d have all her medals taken off her and name expunged from the records. | | | |
| Out of Character on 09:41 - Jul 24 with 1475 views | MattinLondon |
| Out of Character on 07:51 - Jul 24 by Churchman |
I don’t believe it will have taught her anything. My guess is she’ll be enraged for being caught and filled with hate towards those who blew the whistle.
Anyone who is cruel to animals like that in the first place has no sense of decency, right and wrong or even a soul (an extreme view, but it’s how I see it). She does though have a sense of her own self importance, ambition and privilege.
I’d have all her medals taken off her and name expunged from the records. |
But your guess isn’t fact and so your preferred outcome is excessive. For all we know, her behaviour could well have been a blip or it could well be normal for her. We just don’t know - if this story stays in the news then other people could well come forward to add to it. It what usually happens. | | | |
| Out of Character on 18:17 - Jul 24 with 1307 views | Churchman |
| Out of Character on 09:41 - Jul 24 by MattinLondon |
But your guess isn’t fact and so your preferred outcome is excessive. For all we know, her behaviour could well have been a blip or it could well be normal for her. We just don’t know - if this story stays in the news then other people could well come forward to add to it. It what usually happens. |
I suspect it’s normal behaviour but maybe it’s not, so you are right - my response is excessive since the truth is still out there somewhere.
I just can’t abide cruelty to animals. [Post edited 24 Jul 2024 18:20]
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| Out of Character on 18:34 - Jul 24 with 1267 views | MattinLondon |
| Out of Character on 18:17 - Jul 24 by Churchman |
I suspect it’s normal behaviour but maybe it’s not, so you are right - my response is excessive since the truth is still out there somewhere.
I just can’t abide cruelty to animals. [Post edited 24 Jul 2024 18:20]
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I suspect you are right but we don’t know for sure. | | | |
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