| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. 18:53 - Aug 5 with 4942 views | Mercian |
Musk should be concerned about what is going on in his own back yard. If Trump loses in November The US will be closer to civil war than we have in nearly 400 years. The far right in America numbers perhaps in the tens of millions and there is no way they will except a woman of colour as president. January 6th 2022 is just a rehearsal. [Post edited 5 Aug 2024 18:54]
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| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 18:56 - Aug 5 with 3742 views | Swansea_Blue |
Musk comes across as a humongous tvvat. Ignore him. America will probably survive.
I suspect you're right about Harris though. There will be many people there who wouldn't take the result well if it goes in her favour. |  |
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| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 19:20 - Aug 5 with 3653 views | Plums |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 18:56 - Aug 5 by Swansea_Blue |
Musk comes across as a humongous tvvat. Ignore him. America will probably survive.
I suspect you're right about Harris though. There will be many people there who wouldn't take the result well if it goes in her favour. |
Imagine if she picks a gay bloke as her running mate. Some of them would explode.
On second thoughts... |  |
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| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 19:28 - Aug 5 with 3601 views | RadioOrwell |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 19:20 - Aug 5 by Plums |
Imagine if she picks a gay bloke as her running mate. Some of them would explode.
On second thoughts... |
Pete Buttigeig is a very impressive bloke.
Harris / Buttigeig would be interesting but I don't think they'll do that.
In the long term he would be an amazing President but I can't see it happening - although Obama happened and Harris might happen - so maybe I'm wrong. |  | | |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 19:39 - Aug 5 with 3523 views | Perublue |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 19:28 - Aug 5 by RadioOrwell |
Pete Buttigeig is a very impressive bloke.
Harris / Buttigeig would be interesting but I don't think they'll do that.
In the long term he would be an amazing President but I can't see it happening - although Obama happened and Harris might happen - so maybe I'm wrong. |
Tactically I thought Mark Kelly would be the option they’d go for but it looks like it’s going to be Walz or Shapiro. |  |
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| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 19:41 - Aug 5 with 3493 views | PhilTWTD |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 19:39 - Aug 5 by Perublue |
Tactically I thought Mark Kelly would be the option they’d go for but it looks like it’s going to be Walz or Shapiro. |
Shapiro would seem to make most sense as winning Pennsylvania could be key to winning the electoral college. |  | | |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 19:53 - Aug 5 with 3379 views | Perublue |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 19:41 - Aug 5 by PhilTWTD |
Shapiro would seem to make most sense as winning Pennsylvania could be key to winning the electoral college. |
Absolutely… for Pennsylvania… I was thinking for more flip states though with him “balancing” out the Harris issues that some voters would have being very much on the face of it an all American wet dream … ex astronaut and military of Arizona itself being flippy… and also his wife’s awful situation appealing to the floating voters who of course are the ones that make the difference even more so in these entrenched days. | |
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| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 20:05 - Aug 5 with 3290 views | mutters |
As someone who is a fan of Elon Musk, but not a fanboy, I have found his views becoming more and more extreme as time passes by. He has been at the front of a number of ventures that have changed society and helped shape the future for the better.
However his personal views sometimes just leaves me embarrassed to defend him as a human. Growing up in South Africa he must have seen the impact of divisive thinking, and wonder why he didn't learn from how hate words impacts people and society. Or maybe he did and as a white South African he wasnt happy with the change. |  |
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| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 20:10 - Aug 5 with 3254 views | factual_blue |
musk just wants lots of people to tweet about his insightful comments. |  |
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| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 20:12 - Aug 5 with 3227 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 20:05 - Aug 5 by mutters |
As someone who is a fan of Elon Musk, but not a fanboy, I have found his views becoming more and more extreme as time passes by. He has been at the front of a number of ventures that have changed society and helped shape the future for the better.
However his personal views sometimes just leaves me embarrassed to defend him as a human. Growing up in South Africa he must have seen the impact of divisive thinking, and wonder why he didn't learn from how hate words impacts people and society. Or maybe he did and as a white South African he wasnt happy with the change. |
He's just a horrible person |  | | |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 20:21 - Aug 5 with 3140 views | mutters |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 20:12 - Aug 5 by reusersfreekicks |
He's just a horrible person |
Yeah the more time passes the more that is sadly becoming clear | |
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| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 20:26 - Aug 5 with 3093 views | Guthrum |
Provoking a "race war" has long been a fantasy of the US White Power crowd. Presumably in the hope they would win it.
For me, a US civil war, in the traditional sense, is unlikely. Different to the 1860s, divisions don't fall along state lines, nor do the states have controlled militias sufficiently strong to defy the federal government. For many Confederate Ameicans at the time, it was the idea of loyalty to their state, rather than rebelling against Washington.
The broad division now is between urban and rural. There's no self-contained geographical base for either, allowing forces to concentrate.
The far right may number that many, but far fewer will actually want - or have the capability and organisation - to take up arms. Look at the crowd which stormed the Capitol, largely a rag-tag bunch of confused middle aged people led by a man wearing horns. There might be some sort of insurgency, mabe the odd Oklahoma City-type outrage or Waco siege. But I don't think they're sufficiently coordinated to do anything big or dangerous.
Trump certainly won't overtly lead anything, too much risk for him personally. |  |
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| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 20:31 - Aug 5 with 3055 views | Guthrum |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 20:05 - Aug 5 by mutters |
As someone who is a fan of Elon Musk, but not a fanboy, I have found his views becoming more and more extreme as time passes by. He has been at the front of a number of ventures that have changed society and helped shape the future for the better.
However his personal views sometimes just leaves me embarrassed to defend him as a human. Growing up in South Africa he must have seen the impact of divisive thinking, and wonder why he didn't learn from how hate words impacts people and society. Or maybe he did and as a white South African he wasnt happy with the change. |
Yes, that's the problem I have. Some of the things he's done with electric vehicles and SpaceX have been good. But the bloke himself and what he's done with Twitter ... | |
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| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 20:37 - Aug 5 with 2989 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 20:10 - Aug 5 by factual_blue |
musk just wants lots of people to tweet about his insightful comments. |
He’s gone down the “All Lives Matter” route in response to Starmer tonight |  | | |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 20:47 - Aug 5 with 2947 views | tcblue |
Musk is just an incel basement dweller who lucked into money, his stupid views aren't worth listening to. |  | | |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 20:53 - Aug 5 with 2897 views | PhilTWTD |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 19:53 - Aug 5 by Perublue |
Absolutely… for Pennsylvania… I was thinking for more flip states though with him “balancing” out the Harris issues that some voters would have being very much on the face of it an all American wet dream … ex astronaut and military of Arizona itself being flippy… and also his wife’s awful situation appealing to the floating voters who of course are the ones that make the difference even more so in these entrenched days. |
True, depends on where the votes will be most required. | | | |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 21:00 - Aug 5 with 2843 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 19:39 - Aug 5 by Perublue |
Tactically I thought Mark Kelly would be the option they’d go for but it looks like it’s going to be Walz or Shapiro. |
She can offer Kelly either Secretary of State (US Foreign Secretary) or Defense.
His wife Gabbie Giffords is a phenomenal human being, and they both were instrumental in Biden being elected. | | | |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 21:10 - Aug 5 with 2775 views | ibbleobble |
…might explain why he’s pumped tens of millions into Trump’s campaign or maybe not. | | | |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 21:20 - Aug 5 with 2711 views | Guthrum |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 21:10 - Aug 5 by ibbleobble |
…might explain why he’s pumped tens of millions into Trump’s campaign or maybe not. |
It's why Trump is suddenly in favour of cryptocurrency (he hated it before). Musk is head-over-heels with that stuff. | |
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| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 21:22 - Aug 5 with 2700 views | mutters |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 20:47 - Aug 5 by tcblue |
Musk is just an incel basement dweller who lucked into money, his stupid views aren't worth listening to. |
You can say much about his personal views, but he hasn't lucked into money. He had a good start, no denying that, but look at the companies he has consistently built, either by founding them or taking them over and making them vastly more successful than they were before.
Hate him all you want, and that is understandable based on his personal views if they conflict with yours, but you can not deny his business acumen. | |
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| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 22:40 - Aug 5 with 2454 views | Mercian |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 20:26 - Aug 5 by Guthrum |
Provoking a "race war" has long been a fantasy of the US White Power crowd. Presumably in the hope they would win it.
For me, a US civil war, in the traditional sense, is unlikely. Different to the 1860s, divisions don't fall along state lines, nor do the states have controlled militias sufficiently strong to defy the federal government. For many Confederate Ameicans at the time, it was the idea of loyalty to their state, rather than rebelling against Washington.
The broad division now is between urban and rural. There's no self-contained geographical base for either, allowing forces to concentrate.
The far right may number that many, but far fewer will actually want - or have the capability and organisation - to take up arms. Look at the crowd which stormed the Capitol, largely a rag-tag bunch of confused middle aged people led by a man wearing horns. There might be some sort of insurgency, mabe the odd Oklahoma City-type outrage or Waco siege. But I don't think they're sufficiently coordinated to do anything big or dangerous.
Trump certainly won't overtly lead anything, too much risk for him personally. |
Each state does have a powerful state guard though. Also certain units of the federal US forces would join MAGA if Trump lost and fight on his behalf. He already has former generals in his pocket, at least one who has served a prison sentence. | | | |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 22:44 - Aug 5 with 2434 views | tcblue |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 21:22 - Aug 5 by mutters |
You can say much about his personal views, but he hasn't lucked into money. He had a good start, no denying that, but look at the companies he has consistently built, either by founding them or taking them over and making them vastly more successful than they were before.
Hate him all you want, and that is understandable based on his personal views if they conflict with yours, but you can not deny his business acumen. |
Exploiting tax breaks and breaking the backs of the real founders and engineers of everything he's been involved with which is successful.
I guess you could call that business acumen. Trump does, no doubt. | | | |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 22:50 - Aug 5 with 2379 views | Mullet |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 20:21 - Aug 5 by mutters |
Yeah the more time passes the more that is sadly becoming clear |
While it’s not fair to hold Elon responsible the views and behaviours of his dad and even his grandad are fascinating. You can see why Elon is such an oddball and has such horrid views when you trace a line through this.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-world-according-to-elon-musks-g |  |
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| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 23:45 - Aug 5 with 2246 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 20:05 - Aug 5 by mutters |
As someone who is a fan of Elon Musk, but not a fanboy, I have found his views becoming more and more extreme as time passes by. He has been at the front of a number of ventures that have changed society and helped shape the future for the better.
However his personal views sometimes just leaves me embarrassed to defend him as a human. Growing up in South Africa he must have seen the impact of divisive thinking, and wonder why he didn't learn from how hate words impacts people and society. Or maybe he did and as a white South African he wasnt happy with the change. |
What's this good stuff he's done? |  |
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| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 00:14 - Aug 6 with 2165 views | mutters |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 23:45 - Aug 5 by BanksterDebtSlave |
What's this good stuff he's done? |
Haha, that old game, if you're not a fan whatever is said here will be shot down. One person's perspective is often very different to another, and what a person may see as a good thing somebody else will see as a bad thing.
However from my perspective....
His ventures have not only sparked a renaissance in space exploration, electric vehicles, and renewable energy but have also ignited a broader discourse on the future of humanity. Even PayPal helped shape a future where transactions over the Internet became commonplace.
Yes he is a capitalist, yes one of his purposes is to make money, but that doesn't mean you can't do good along the way
Edited due to poor grammar [Post edited 6 Aug 2024 0:23]
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| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 00:21 - Aug 6 with 2146 views | mutters |
| Musk "civil war is inevitable" in the UK. on 22:44 - Aug 5 by tcblue |
Exploiting tax breaks and breaking the backs of the real founders and engineers of everything he's been involved with which is successful.
I guess you could call that business acumen. Trump does, no doubt. |
Can you provide examples of the claims you make? Which engineers and which founders are you talking about?
Tax breaks, sure all businesses get them, especially when you are founding new companies certainly at that scale. Are you saying that because he provided the vision and employed people to help fulfill that vision he is breaking the backs of them. A founder can not do everything, but when he was at x.com (the original one, not the rebranded twitter version) he did do the majority of the coding. | |
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